Ethanol Free Gas

 

I would not normaly write this to open forum.I just downloaded The Ethanol Free Gas POI and it has a mistake on line 13 a data format error.I would write to the person who updates the file but there is no contact link for this person.

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Ethanol

Good luck on finding gas without it......

It's very hard to find. The

It's very hard to find. The whole thing is a farce anyway, and with the bad summer people are starting to look at it. The only people in favor of ethanol are lobbyists for ADM. Hopefully I can find some ethanol free this summer and see if it makes a difference.

EPA can mandate whatever they like

since they have essentially slipped out of Congressional control. Good luck on suing them for any future damage their mandates may cause your new vehicle. None of us has that kind of money. Congress should revise the Clean Air act, but there is little to no chance they will. Perhaps the Iowa governor can lose his office.

Food prices

Before the EPA mandate.
Farmers sold corn for $2.95/bushel.
This morning corn is $8.29/bushel at ADM.
Four years ago a farmer friend told us he sold his soybeans for $12.00 and made more money than he had even dreamed about.
This morning ADM is paying $17.84/bushel.

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ethanol

If you've got a boat, resist the temptation to save a little money and fill up at a gas station. The ethanol attracts water, and does other things to screw up marine engines.

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That goes for lawnmowers, and other yard tools as well.

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Enzyme

Juggernaut wrote:

That goes for lawnmowers, and other yard tools as well.

I use and enzyme additive to take out the ethanol out of my gas before I use it in small engines.

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NUVI40 Kingsport TN

Raised Glass Fuel Measuring

Back in the day, fuel pumps had a glass tank above them that you were able to visually see the fuel you were purchasing and the amount... NO AIR. Now they hide the what they sell. The fuel runs through hidden filters and an oxygenator prior to metering device. So what you are being sold is for sure with it's percentage of air. If you topped of the tank and waited 20 minutes or so with the fuel cap off, you would be able to add more fuel because of the escaped air. It's okay though, The Department of Weights and Measures has your back, I'm sure they take this into account.

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MatthewM

BuCees has ethanol free gas

Stopped at one of their stations in South Carolina recently and they had ethanol free gas. I believe it was about .50 cents more per gallon though.

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Hmmm

jgermann wrote:

The last lawnmower I bought (a Toro) has a sticker next to the gas tank cap that said to use gas without ethenol.

Did it say "...to use gas without ethanol"? Not to play lawyer because I'm not one, but my Toro says "Gasoline with up to 10% ethanol (gasohol) or 15% MTBE (methyl tertiary butyl ether) by volume is acceptable."

It's a subtle difference, yes. Also my 2022 Acura, many feel it requires Premium gas but read the actual print in the manual or on the gas cap and it says 91 octane recommended.

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John from PA

E10 vs. ethanol free

I have actually been a witness to the EPA testing sequence that establish the mpg on the window sticker. Part of the EPA testing sequence is to test any given vehicle both on 10% ethanol and ethanol free gas. The exact same vehicle goes through both types of testing to establish mileage under both conditions. The testing is controlled by computer so any variable by a human driver isn't a factor. The EPA states that only a 3% to 4% difference occurs between the two types of fuel. So some of you in colder climates now making the switch may see an increase simply due to warmer weather, not an ethanol free product.

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John from PA

No Ethanol

I generally don't avoid ethanol fuel for automotive use, since modern engines are designed to use it effectively.

For my small gas engines, I used to frequent gas stations that offer ethanol free high octane fuel. I would "purge" the pump by putting the first 5 gallons or so in the vehicle before filling the gas cans.

Now, I skip the hassle and use engineered fuel to avoid ethanol related issues.

https://trufuel50.com/

Not cheap at $20+/gal. but it saves money in the long run through decreased maintenance.

It can be left in generators, chain saws, lawnmowers, trimmers, snowblowers, etc. without fear of carburetor fouling.

Sure, it costs a bit more, but the time saved in having to drain unused fuel from my equipment after each use is worth it to me.

Ethanol

all three of my vehicles call for premium 91 but I use 85 with a 91 top off every 2nd or 3third fill up. Have had no problems. I use ethanol gas in my lawnmower and snowblower with sea foam when I fill my gas container. Leave the gas in all year but start then up on a regular base. Lawn mower may set throught the winter but is started every spring with just a couple of tries with the starter. Harder to keep the battery charged.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

Ethanol Free Gas

Many small engines are not designed for ethanol gas. I heard a man who had his own saturday morning hunting/fishing show say burning this junk gas in his lawnmower cost him several hundred dollars for repair to his lawnmower engine. I don't burn it in mower or weed wacker

Engineered fuel

bdhsfz6 wrote:

For my small gas engines... I... use engineered fuel to avoid ethanol related issues.

https://trufuel50.com/

Not cheap at $20+/gal. but it saves money in the long run through decreased maintenance.

It can be left in generators, chain saws, lawnmowers, trimmers, snowblowers, etc. without fear of carburetor fouling.

Sure, it costs a bit more, but the time saved in having to drain unused fuel from my equipment after each use is worth it to me.

Thanks for that reminder, bd! I was going to go to the gas station tomorrow to buy my first spring batch of ethanol-free fuel for my push mower, but I'd also heard engineered fuel was a better way to go for small engine machines and wanted to try it this year.

Engineered fuel, available not at most gas stations but at auto parts stores and probably some hardware etc. stores, is pricey, but those of us with push mowers and medium-sized-or-smaller lawns, only need a few quarts of fuel a year anyway.

Even ethanol-free fuel that sits in a fuel tank for more than a few weeks can sludge up fuel lines and carburetors if not mixed properly with fuel stabilizer, which buys a little more but not unlimited time.

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