General Maintainers:

 

cool

In a effort to cut down on over updating our GPS units during all times of the week...

I purpose a NEW systematic change?

As 90% or more of all users update on Wednesday just after
the new release of the Redlight and Speed camera POI file, I think that we should as General Maintainers post ALL NEW updated files on Tuesday or Wednesday morning giving all users opportunity to Update at the same time and saving wear and tear on the unit?

I Do this now,,, but how many times have you updated your unit and not even an hour later there is 1, 2, or 3 files that need updating again! Sometimes one you just updated!

I am NOT trying to target any General Maintainer:

I am trying to get everyone to get the most out of their VALUABLE and PRIZED unit.

Please consider such a change and best to all in the Contributor of the year vote.

I welcome your POST in Regard:...

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"Destination Eternity" Garmin 765T, & Samsung Galaxy Note Edge
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90%? Really? Who else is doing weekly updates?

You say 90% of users update their ticket camera file weekly?

Really?

If I load POIs of any kind more than three times a year it would shock me.

People are really loading updates like that, several times a week?

Who else is doing weekly updates besides the OP? Am I really behind the times that much? How many changes are really happening weekly like that?

I update only when...

I plan on leaving town. New territory, need to know where the cams are (and where the food is!).

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Mine almost every week

I upload for the RLC and speed camera

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Val - Nuvi 785t and Streetpilot C340

Updating weekly

The Red Light cameras & speed cameras are forever being added and sometimes removed. It is nice to know where they are. I try never to go throught a red light (more for my own safety than it being the law)
But I have been known to go a little heavy on the gas peddle at times on highways. The longer the drive the more I want out of the car the more I have a tendancy to go over the limit.

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Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things!

updating

For me, updating is at least a two step process. I check for new files daily and will download them to my PC where I place them in the folder used by POI Loader. When I want to update my unit, I then run POI Loader and pick up all the new files and updates stored on the PC. It doesn't make any difference when files are uploaded to POI-Factory, I look at My Favorite Files for updates and scan the Recent uploads that I've never loaded.

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Agree

Box Car wrote:

For me, updating is at least a two step process. I check for new files daily and will download them to my PC where I place them in the folder used by POI Loader. When I want to update my unit, I then run POI Loader and pick up all the new files and updates stored on the PC. It doesn't make any difference when files are uploaded to POI-Factory, I look at My Favorite Files for updates and scan the Recent uploads that I've never loaded.

I agree with Box Car, I do the same.

I do the same

Box Car wrote:

For me, updating is at least a two step process. I check for new files daily and will download them to my PC where I place them in the folder used by POI Loader. When I want to update my unit, I then run POI Loader and pick up all the new files and updates stored on the PC. It doesn't make any difference when files are uploaded to POI-Factory, I look at My Favorite Files for updates and scan the Recent uploads that I've never loaded.

Except I run POISync as a daily script to refresh my POI's daily and then run POILoader as needed.

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(formerly known as condump) RV 770 LMT-S, Nuvi2797LMT, Nuvi765T

General Maintainers

I think this is a great idea.

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Alan-Garmin c340

I do it exactly the same as you.

Box Car wrote:

For me, updating is at least a two step process. I check for new files daily and will download them to my PC where I place them in the folder used by POI Loader. When I want to update my unit, I then run POI Loader and pick up all the new files and updates stored on the PC. It doesn't make any difference when files are uploaded to POI-Factory, I look at My Favorite Files for updates and scan the Recent uploads that I've never loaded.

I do it exactly the same as you.

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Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...

Rarely

I rarely update more than once every other month. The RLC's around my area have been relatively static with only some new updates recently. Usually I take the CSV file and remove everything except New York and Ontario, Canada since those are the places I frequent the most. So all the other updates are of no consequence to me and I do not update because of them. Other than that, I grab the latest Rest Area's POI before I head out on a long trip.

Of course this is just me.

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I support the right to keep and arm bears.

Weekly POI updates

This sounds like a good idea but tell me why I should wait until Tuesday night or Wednesday morning to upload the updates to the POI files that I maintain? Wouldn't downloading and updating his/her GPS files be something for the user to decide? If someone is concerned about the wear and tear on his unit by updating POIs several times a week then they should setup a schedule to look for, download and update their POI files once a week.

If all the maintainers did this, it wouldn't really help me as I have my POI files segregated by category on my GPS. Redlight and speed cameras are in a folder named "Traffic Cameras", school zones are under "School Zones", etc. When I update, I just update that folder and not the entire mass of POIs on my unit.

You might also consider storing your POIs on a memory card. They will work just as well and any undue wear and tear will be to a cheap memory card instead of an expensive GPS.

Weekly Updates

I would be surprised if it wasn't more like 20 to 30 percent update everything expect maybe redlight poi. I just check for my own poi's I made and only update all other's when I am ready to go on a trip.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

updating poi's puts wear on the unit?

I didn't know updating the unit would put much wear on it. It's all solid state memory and I would think the heat on the dash would be the biggest factor. I know memory can wear out but I thought it wasn't likely. Don't mean to veer off topic but I'm curious. I update whenever I'm doing a road trip, every month or so.

Not me.

Steevo wrote:

You say 90% of users update their ticket camera file weekly?

Really?
If I load POIs of any kind more than three times a year it would shock me.
People are really loading updates like that, several times a week?
Who else is doing weekly updates besides the OP? Am I really behind the times that much? How many changes are really happening weekly like that?

I don't update that often. I would say once a month is the norm for me.

If..

If it ain't broke why fix it. I personally like the way it currently is, but that's just me.

updates

i try to update 1 a month too . as others i have a folder in download called gps updates and put new things there.
mike

Once a month

Like others, I do it about once a month.

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Larry - Nuvi 680, Nuvi 1690, Nuvi 2797LMT

I don't think Miss POI would

I don't think Miss POI would like for EVERYBODY Updating at the same time. Think of the overload on the website.

Updating

I do like Box Car does. Wednesday's I update Red Light Speed Camera file. I check at least once a day for updates - load them on my computer and at the end of the week or the weekend I update my gps.

I update my camera files weekly

and generally use that opportunity to check my favorite files to see what updates have happened.

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Nuvi 760 Nuvi 2598 LMT Nuvi 3597 LMT Garmin Streetpilot Onboard for iPhone

Updates

I only update POI when I go on trips. Only other times is when i know new speed/red light cameras has been installed locally.

Now for maps, I update shortly after their release.

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Allan Barnett - Garmin nüvi 885T/765T/Pharos GPS (bluetooth) w/MS Maps on PPC

Update weekly.If I have to

Update weekly.If I have to go somewhere on short notice.I want to have unit up to date.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Twice a Year

I don't use red light or speed trap files. I update about twice a year if that often.

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- Missouri, Garmin 750 &, 255W

just wondering

charlesd45 wrote:

Update weekly.If I have to go somewhere on short notice.I want to have unit up to date.

charlesd45 - since I would guess you have lots of POI files, do you load all of them each week? Or, have you renamed the poi.gpi file generated by your POI files and let the weekly update of the camera file create a new poi.gpi file each time?

Yes weekly all of them.

I use Extra Poi Editor to convert the csv files if not in the gpx format that I want the alerts for.Then I build the alert distance in the file so I can run Poiloader in express mode.The camera files since they have key words built into the file name I leave them like they are.If I plan to go to area that is known to have numerous speed and red light cameras at many intersections I load them in EPE and set as needed.

Yes many pois.My wife and I travel every chance we get so lots of hotel,food,attractions,Ford locations for repair if needed and of course rest stops and Walmart files.I do break the Sam's Clubs out of the file with the ones for gas.The big reason for the Walmart file is I started to buy tires and battery for the car there so when on the road I can stop and gets tires rotated at proper time and if the battery goes and still has warranty I can get it replaced.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Seems like

Seems like a reasonable request, but instead of picking Tuesday or Wednesday in particular for everyone to 'jam up the place' both downloading and uploading at the same time, how about we all just try to do major updates between Sat and Tue?

If a downloader wants to do everything on one day, they already have a 50/50 shot at getting the latest file anyway. Trying to post major changes by Sat-Tue would mean a Wed downloader would have a better shot at the latest much-used file (for them).

Just a thought. The few files I maintain aren't updated much anyway so just chiming in here.

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.

To much time . . . .

glwilbert wrote:

cool

In a effort to cut down on over updating our GPS units during all times of the week...

As 90% or more of all users update on Wednesday

What? over update our units? 90% update on Wed.... Please post your source on that?

I guess I'm to busy to be worried about having the most current update on a weekly bases, some people have way too much time on their hands.

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You Gotta Be Kidding

Do traffic cams change that often?

If you don't run Red Lights, do you really have to worry that much?

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NUVI2555LMT, NUVI350

Anyone?

Anyone notice that the OP might be a professional driver, and just might put more miles on in a week than most of us do in 6 months or a year?

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.

Give'm special status

JD4x4 wrote:

Anyone notice that the OP might be a professional driver, and just might put more miles on in a week than most of us do in 6 months or a year?

Professional drivers should have special status on the forum, so that their rants can be ignored by regular folks grin Just kidding! What I meant to say is that heavy/professional drivers have very different demands for POI updates than the rest of us and it may be useful to differentiate between the two smile

Well...

I understand the idea behind it, but I guess glwilbert needs to assess his own needs and download frequency. I'm not sure that even he as a professional driver needs to update that frequently. Agreed that it can be annoying when I update my unit only to find new updates to my favorite files almost immediately thereafter. My choice is to wait until another time to update or to do it again right away.

As someone who has built and maintains POIs, I wouldn't conform to an "upload day" because I may not have the time or interest to work on a file for a while. Then the urge to work on a new or old file pops up so I do. If the file is ready to go live, I upload it. If I wait around for a certain day then I may forget to upload it or may not be available to do so. Those who might want the update sooner would have to wait. I'm not sure just having a standard "release day" would be any improvement over the current situation as the site could be overloaded with everyone trying to download on those days. I'm sure that this might also increase the workload of our web master and mistress, which to me doesn't seem fair to them.

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Nuvi 2595LMT, Nuvi 1490T, Nuvi 260, GPSMAP 195

Update Time

I have several files that I work on. I try and look at them all from time to time, but spend most of the time on the ones that get downloaded the most. Since I travel for work, I post the updates as soon as I can. It may be several weeks before I get a chance to work on it again. Corrections from other members I try and do right away, as they will probably be looking for a correction in the file. I appreciate their assistance in maintaining accurate files.

Daniel

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Garmin StreetPilot c580 & Nuvi 760 - Member 32160 - Traveling in Kansas

I often wonder

davidkbrown wrote:

Do traffic cams change that often?

I'm certain that those who report the changes (additions & subtractions) are doing it in good faith but the numbers do seem high.

Last month : 84 changes
2 months ago: 96 changes
3 months ago: 85 changes

Thats almost 3 per day....

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Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk

Ditto

Box Car wrote:

For me, updating is at least a two step process. I check for new files daily and will download them to my PC where I place them in the folder used by POI Loader. When I want to update my unit, I then run POI Loader and pick up all the new files and updates stored on the PC. It doesn't make any difference when files are uploaded to POI-Factory, I look at My Favorite Files for updates and scan the Recent uploads that I've never loaded.

Ditto here plus my POIs are on a SD card. However as a general maintainer I'll be glad to update only on specific days if that's what everyone wants.

Great idea since I check for

Great idea since I check for updates every Wednesday evening.

Skip a week or 2?

glwilbert wrote:

I think that we should as General Maintainers post ALL NEW updated files on Tuesday or Wednesday morning giving all users opportunity to Update at the same time and saving wear and tear on the unit?

Are you saying that if a General Maintainer of a popular POI file has a major update and is unable to post during your "Tuesday or Wednesday morning" time slot that they should wait a week (or maybe more?) to update?

Just my 2 cents, but if any General Maintainer is kind enough to spend their time and efforts to benefit us all, they should have the flexibility to update any darn time they feel like it.

Ron

I think that our system

I think that our system works well just the way it is;) I want to keep things pretty casual and without a lot of rules and guidelines.

This community should feel more like a hobby and not a job. Well I should say for you guys, for me it is very much a full time job.

Miss POI

Yes

miss poi wrote:

I think that our system works well just the way it is;) I want to keep things pretty casual and without a lot of rules and guidelines.

This community should feel more like a hobby and not a job. Well I should say for you guys, for me it is very much a full time job.

Miss POI

Could not agree more.With the new My Favorites Files no real problem for what needs to be updated.You can do that at your leisure.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Be careful what you wish for..........

As was stated before, If this becomes an unpaid job it no longer is a hobby and my guess is some to many maintainers would just say forget it.
Many have other responsibilities in their lives already and putting deadlines on POI file updates would likely have the exact opposite effect you desire given maintaining a poi file may leave you feeling good but they will not put food on your plate.
The old saying...if it ain't broke, don't fix it is the best response I can think of to respond to you.

Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year to All

Ditto

charlesd45 wrote:
miss poi wrote:

.. I want to keep things pretty casual and without a lot of rules and guidelines. ..
Miss POI

Could not agree more.With the new My Favorites Files no real problem for what needs to be updated.You can do that at your leisure.

Ditto.
But for what it's worth I don't think it will break my keyboard, so I'll try to update mine Sun-Tue. (Not that they add Amer Legion posts or MD Historical markers on a regular basis!) mrgreen

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.

Simple post,,, Complicated Readers!

cool cool

This post was intended to make things easy for the non advance, non maintainer who would like to get all things done and updated in one time frame.

This post was never about how you do things but what would make things better for the community. Some of you like to complicate things that you may get a chance to show how intelligent you think you are!

POST CLOSED!!!

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"Destination Eternity" Garmin 765T, & Samsung Galaxy Note Edge

Simple post,,, Complicated Readers!

What are you getting upset about. You asked and people answered. If you don't like the answers then maybe you need to explain in better detail what you expect the answers to be confused

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

Second that

charlesd45 wrote:
miss poi wrote:

I think that our system works well just the way it is;) I want to keep things pretty casual and without a lot of rules and guidelines.

This community should feel more like a hobby and not a job. Well I should say for you guys, for me it is very much a full time job.

Miss POI

Could not agree more.With the new My Favorites Files no real problem for what needs to be updated.You can do that at your leisure.

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

POI posting

I usually post my Brewery update on Mondays, on Wednesday you are still getting the most recent update.

Hobby for me

I maintain the files I have as a hobby. It started while I was out of work and had all the time in the world. Now I'm working, I like staying involved but its a fun hobby activity I enjoy.

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etrex vista, Nuvi 350, Nuvi 650, Nuvi 750(3)

Post them immediately

If you don't want to do several updates then save them and do one a week. What's really the difference between the maintainer sitting on the update for several days or you sitting on them? The earlier upload allows someone who wants that specific update to get it sooner and not get outdated data because the maintainer is sitting on it waiting for a specific day to upload.

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Garmin Etrex Vista, Streetpilot 2610, GPSMap 60Csx, Nüvi 750, Colorado 400t, Nüvi 3790t

Agree

quackinup wrote:

If you don't want to do several updates then save them and do one a week. What's really the difference between the maintainer sitting on the update for several days or you sitting on them? The earlier upload allows someone who wants that specific update to get it sooner and not get outdated data because the maintainer is sitting on it waiting for a specific day to upload.

My thoughts are that it would only add a delay to the files being uploaded. On most of the files, if you are updating weekly, missing one by a day and then catching it the next week should not make a big difference. If you are very concerned about a particular file, you can check it just before needed.

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There's nothing wrong...

glwilbert wrote:

cool

In a effort to cut down on over updating our GPS units during all times of the week...

I purpose a NEW systematic change?

As 90% or more of all users update on Wednesday just after
the new release of the Redlight and Speed camera POI file, I think that we should as General Maintainers post ALL NEW updated files on Tuesday or Wednesday morning giving all users opportunity to Update at the same time and saving wear and tear on the unit?

I Do this now,,, but how many times have you updated your unit and not even an hour later there is 1, 2, or 3 files that need updating again! Sometimes one you just updated!

I am NOT trying to target any General Maintainer:

I am trying to get everyone to get the most out of their VALUABLE and PRIZED unit.

Please consider such a change and best to all in the Contributor of the year vote.

I welcome your POST in Regard:...

In my opinion there's nothing wrong with the present system that works successfuly for years. Why change something that proved itself to be ok just for sake of inovation?

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vk

My Favorite Files - thanks

Great tip using the My Favorite Files. One of those links you see but don't click on...until now. Nice!

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Nuvi 760 (died 6/2013); Forerunner 305 bike/run; Inreach SE; MotionX Drive (iPhone)

Once a month

I usually update once a month unless I am going on a long trip then I update the day before I set off,

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Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.
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