Functions of new GPS insufficient

 

Several months ago I had to purchase a new Garmin as my 2720 power cord broke while on a trip. The 2720 GPS had a selection for routing that I could choose between a truck and car. The truck option seems to keep us out of areas that a camper (5th wheel and truck) did not need to be like downtown Savannah, Georgia on Abercorn drive. That is a great option for camper’s traveling in unfamiliar places.
My new GPS Garmin (1490t) only contains the car, pedestrian, and bicycle (how useful is that) options in the “Usage Mode”. It seems the option to make the selection in routing method between a car and truck has been removed. Did I buy the wrong GPS or is there a fix for this one? Is there a unit that still makes this optional function available? Mapsource still contains this selection of truck routing but when I load a planned route into the GPS the GPS changes that truck route while in service. What's a person to do?

The 465T...

Would have been a good choice for you. If you check Garmin's website, you can see which units are trucker route friendly.

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465T

As mentioned by Maddog, the 465T is the 'only' nuvi offered on Garmin's website with the trucker routing information you're looking for. Here's a link: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=275

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why not replace the power cord?

Sorry that you didn't get a GPS with features that you want, but if your old GPS does what you want and the only issue is the power cord, that should be easy to fix or replace. If it is a typical mini-usb power plug you can buy plenty of inexpensive auto adapters, or even just buy an $8 trac-phone with car adapter and throw away the phone. Meritline is always putting car lighter to usb adapters on sale for just a couple of dollars, although with those you'll also need the usb to mini-usb data cable.

If It Ain't Broke...Don't Replace It.

I was considering buying a newer GPS unit but after reading various reviews and complaints along with the price of the newer units, I think I'll just keep my current one. It still works and it does what I need it to do. Maybe I'll just buy the latest map update. It ain't broke, still works great. Think I'll hold on to my $.

The features that have been added on the newer units are mostly useless to me and some of the basic functionality on some of the newer units appears to have some issues. No sense in spending money for a unit with problems.

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OK.....so where the heck am I?

no good news

From what I saw looking at new models they are gutted from many functions that were used in old units. Even models from this same line but with higher number (it meant better "equipped" in the past) right now have some functions that "lower" units doesn't but at this same time they don't have all functions available in "lower" units. Seems like philosophy right now is not "more expensive unit with enhanced functions" but "more expensive unit with different set of functions".

So far my old model is better equipped than new models that should be suited to replace it. But on the other hand they cost less than half of what i paid for my oldie.

I think that replacing power cable for old unit will be best solution, as people said before. Or going into more expensive trucker's units. And fix will be possible only with firmware update, but this is unlikely.

About your problem with MapSource routes. When you downloading route from MapSource you are not transferring actual route but waypoints on which this route is based. So route is recalculated in garmin and often will differ from MapSource original. Only solution seems to be to make waypoints often enough along requested route, so device will have no choice but calculate same route like MapSource. Sometimes tedious job but so far it's only way.

you just didn't buy the correct model for your needs

Sounds like as some others have already said you just didn't buy the correct model. The 465T model was made for what you need and would make an excellent replacement for your old unit.

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Fix or replace?

I too would like to keep my old Garmin GPS but the battery is shot, the maps are (horribly) out of date, and the unit turns off unexpectedly from time to time. It's not worth the expense to fix vs. a new unit with lifetime maps, traffic, etc.

As already suggested

You should replace the power cord. As for the 1490T I find it to be an excellent unit with many features. Any other way to pass a route from the 2270 and the 1490T? Will way points or areas of the route that wants to change help?

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1490t

jmqualls wrote:

Several months ago I had to purchase a new Garmin as my 2720 power cord broke while on a trip. The 2720 GPS had a selection for routing that I could choose between a truck and car. The truck option seems to keep us out of areas that a camper (5th wheel and truck) did not need to be like downtown Savannah, Georgia on Abercorn drive. That is a great option for camper’s traveling in unfamiliar places.
My new GPS Garmin (1490t) only contains the car, pedestrian, and bicycle (how useful is that) options in the “Usage Mode”. It seems the option to make the selection in routing method between a car and truck has been removed. Did I buy the wrong GPS or is there a fix for this one? Is there a unit that still makes this optional function available? Mapsource still contains this selection of truck routing but when I load a planned route into the GPS the GPS changes that truck route while in service. What's a person to do?

Garmin seems to eliminate at least one useful feature every time a new model comes out. For example, I too have a 2720 which as a great detour feature when following a route. You can bypass any road on the trip. Not so with the 1490, a great feature not migrated to this new unit.

Wish I had that!

scyntax wrote:
jmqualls wrote:

Several months ago I had to purchase a new Garmin as my 2720 power cord broke while on a trip. The 2720 GPS had a selection for routing that I could choose between a truck and car. The truck option seems to keep us out of areas that a camper (5th wheel and truck) did not need to be like downtown Savannah, Georgia on Abercorn drive. That is a great option for camper’s traveling in unfamiliar places.
My new GPS Garmin (1490t) only contains the car, pedestrian, and bicycle (how useful is that) options in the “Usage Mode”. It seems the option to make the selection in routing method between a car and truck has been removed. Did I buy the wrong GPS or is there a fix for this one? Is there a unit that still makes this optional function available? Mapsource still contains this selection of truck routing but when I load a planned route into the GPS the GPS changes that truck route while in service. What's a person to do?

Garmin seems to eliminate at least one useful feature every time a new model comes out. For example, I too have a 2720 which as a great detour feature when following a route. You can bypass any road on the trip. Not so with the 1490, a great feature not migrated to this new unit.

I was never aware of that feature, but it would have been neat to have.

Truck GPS

As was mentioned, Garmin does make a truck GPS which will keep you on commercial roads, off passenger only parkways, etc. If you want to see it, I saw this model at Best Buy on display. It was more than the 1490T but not outrageous. Some other companies' truck gps units are a lot higher in price.

For an RVer this is a great feature to have and it would be so easy to add to most models. I guess they figure with a limited market with a demand they can charge a lot extra.

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Is It A Marketing Error?

scyntax wrote:

Garmin seems to eliminate at least one useful feature every time a new model comes out. For example, I too have a 2720 which as a great detour feature when following a route. You can bypass any road on the trip. Not so with the 1490, a great feature not migrated to this new unit.

You'd think their marketing department would have a better idea of what their customers want.
My opinion of the Garmin customer base is probably skewed. There are a lot of people here who seem know the GPSr's inside & out and they are extremely helpful. Then again, this group (POI-Factory) is a small portion of the Garmin owners. In my admittedly limited experience, most users (friends and family) want to put find their destination in a list and have the GPS guide them there. Even that is frequently difficult for them.

Marketing dept.

edwardw66 wrote:
scyntax wrote:

Garmin seems to eliminate at least one useful feature every time a new model comes out. For example, I too have a 2720 which as a great detour feature when following a route. You can bypass any road on the trip. Not so with the 1490, a great feature not migrated to this new unit.

You'd think their marketing department would have a better idea of what their customers want.
My opinion of the Garmin customer base is probably skewed. There are a lot of people here who seem know the GPSr's inside & out and they are extremely helpful. Then again, this group (POI-Factory) is a small portion of the Garmin owners. In my admittedly limited experience, most users (friends and family) want to put find their destination in a list and have the GPS guide them there. Even that is frequently difficult for them.

According to a Garmin rep I spoke with the marketing dept. did listen to their customers. She said people were complaining about the menus in the old Street Pilots being to hard to navigate so they started the Nuvi line which she described as a dumbed down version of the Street Pilot. personally I think either she or the marketing dept. is full of it, the menus on my 2610 and my 2820 are much easier to find your way around then my 855 ever thought of being.

I think Garmin is just catering to the people that had to have MP3 players and picture viewers and all of the other none related GPS features.

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Features

I have to agree about the feature changes. I started with a C330 that was a Christmas gift. From there I went to a C550 that was on closeout at Buy.com and used that for two years. Then I decided to get a new Nuvi 765T, my current device, when they were heavily discounted one day at Amazon. Each time I was upgrading from less features to more feature. Now when I look at the new 1xxx, 2xxx and 3xxx series, I see features missing that I have gotten used to, especially what was available in the C550 and 765T. Unless there are any major changes in the lineup, the 765T will probably be my last Garmin. I shudder to think what else they will start removing in the next models.

Plus there are still the occasional firmware crashes in the 765T that have no realistic chance of being fixed. I talked with Garmin and found they do not collect crash dumps from the devices in the field (it would be great if Webupdater sent them back to Garmin in the process of doing an update) so they really have no way of knowing what problems their software has other than what they recover from devices sent back for repair (those they do collect the dumps from). As such, I do not see any major improvements in firmware bugs down the road so that is another reason not to upgrade.

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All garmin locale are not created equal !

For some reason the US models are dumb down. I own Nuvi 255W which I purchased in Singapore, and a 465T I purchased in US. A few months ago replaced the battery in my 255W. and notice some features that use to work stop working. The only thing changed was that after I replaced the battery I did a user reset and change my locale to US. So I did a user rest and change it back to locale Singapore and notice my feature came back. I then did a comparison of feature with my 255w set to Singapore Vs US Locale. Here are the results.
Singapore: Lot more lane assist,more than even my 465, next 3 highway exit display, none on US, Truck option,none on US, Speed alert, none on US.
I dont know why this is but It is a fact that US models are dumb down.

"According to a Garmin rep I

"According to a Garmin rep I spoke with the marketing dept. did listen to their customers. She said people were complaining about the menus in the old Street Pilots being to hard to navigate so they started the Nuvi line which she described as a dumbed down version of the Street Pilot."

I would say they definitely have it backwards. I have a StreetPilot c340, and the menus are way simpler than the nuvis. I had a 250 for about a week (switched back to the 340) and the menus took a few extra steps to click through on just about everything. I can't possibly imagine how anyone could say the StreetPilot was confusing, it was as simple as it can get.

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Streetpilot C340 Nuvi 2595 LMT