1.5 years later, they finally fixed a map error I reported

 

I just got an e-mail from TeleAtlas saying that they had corrected a map error that I submitted 1.5 years ago. Wow... they need to devote more resources to this. TeleAtlas maps just aren't that accurate in the USA (IMHO).

Great!

Never heard of a mapping company working that fast!

Many years ago I sailed from

Many years ago I sailed from Seattle down to the Sea of Cortez. At that time the only charts available for the Sea of Cortez were from the mid and late 1800's done by a Navy mapping expedition.

I had a very primitive GPS and an old Satnav system on the boat and they both indicated that the old Navy charts were accurate to within 1 nautical mile.

Not bad for the old time sextant work.

Still waiting for MY updates...

One of them relates to max speed limit on Highways here in the 06 department of Southern France. We are the first department (State, or counry ?)to go for 110 KM per hour max, whereas the rest of France has a max limit of 130.

I wonder when / if they'll correct it in the NavTeq maps...

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Which Is Why I Chose A TomTom...

spera wrote:

One of them relates to max speed limit on Highways here in the 06 department of Southern France. We are the first department (State, or counry ?)to go for 110 KM per hour max, whereas the rest of France has a max limit of 130.

I wonder when / if they'll correct it in the NavTeq maps...

...at least with my GO930 I can correct speed limits instantly. That was a significant factor in my chosing the GO930 over one of the NUVI units.

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Interesting...

Does it apply to ALL highway max-speed limits, or just the one speed limit you notice at that specific time and place ?

For example, the Alpes Maritimes 06 "county" I'm talking about is the first such "county" with this max speed. All other "counties" such as the Var, are still applying a max-speed limit of their highways at 130 kph.

Oh - and there ARE also areas on the A8 highway, where you can't exceed 90 KPH. I'm limiting my comments to the highest speed limit "available", so to speak smile

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Variable

You can edit portions of the highway to have different speed limits.

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I Sent Them One...

Years ago and they never fixed it.

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can you imagine the number

can you imagine the number of false reports they must get?

Agreed

On the other hand, my note on max speed limit sure is easy enough to check... Just ask how many people got ticketed for that razz

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false reports?

dockster wrote:

can you imagine the number of false reports they must get?

I imagine they get *some* false reports, but I can't believe that many people have nothing better to do than submit false information. The reports I sent in were easy enough to check, just by using Google Earth or other satellite info to verify that a street didn't go all the way through, or didn't exist at all.

Yay - Navteq wrote back to me !

Apparently they fixed the highway max speed limit error in my County. I'll wait till the next update, and will confirm if that is correct.

Darn it, it BETTER be !!!

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accepting user data

Hello maynard7, jjen, Loneappletree, spera, Shooter, capst,
Great discussion so far. Thanks. You've got me wondering about a few things:
1) How long in general does it take for a company (NAVTEQ, TeleAtlas, Google) to incorporate user input into their map database?
2) Which companies use which techniques (paid geographer, community consensus, etc) for validating data?
3) Is it possible to game the system?, i.e., will getting many people to submit the same update matter?

I'd be grateful for any pointers to where I can read up on these topics. I'm new here.
Yours, Marc

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My account

Good morning Marc,

I did submit two changes to them. One was rather major, ie the max speed limit on highways in my County. It took them a couple weeks or months to let me know that it had apparently been solved in a previous release of their maps. What is weird is that I did NOT launch an update between the time I spotted and reported the error, and recently when I noticed that it had indeed been solved. Some magic, I would guess ?

The other one was about a house number on the street where I live. Our number is not listed,even though we've had houses there for over ten years. And the private lot next to ours, barely older than ours, is indeed listed. And on that one, I haven't had a response, nor have I seen any correction.

Bottom line, my experience is therefore one "fairly quick" goal, and one long-lasting miss.

I shoudl try and submit something to them again, see in which direction the statistics go. But I'm kinda short on requests right now.

Hope this helped - and remember that I asked for two EUROPEAN corrections - you are in the US, if I'm not mistaken ?

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Good Luck on House Numbers

spera wrote:

Good morning Marc,
The other one was about a house number on the street where I live. Our number is not listed,even though we've had houses there for over ten years. And the private lot next to ours, barely older than ours, is indeed listed. And on that one, I haven't had a response, nor have I seen any correction.

Good luck on getting a house number changed. Back in November 2008 I reported that my sister's house in Mississauga, ON was at the wrong location (as well as all the other houses). This is the response I got back:

Quote:

The address location of xxxx Middlebury Dr in Mississauga, ON, is correctly placed in the database according to internal NAVTEQ specifications, "In North America, apply logical addresses by rounding up to the nearest one hundred, e.g. 1, 99, 101, 199." This specification will skew the address away from the intersection with Thomas St.

In other words, if the houses are not numbered in the order NAVTEQ says they are supposed to be, then tough. NAVTEQ is right and your house is wrong!

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The mapping company didn't do crap>>>

jjen wrote:

Never heard of a mapping company working that fast!

the municipality moved the road smile

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I have a 340S that I use on my motorcycle>>>

Shooter wrote:
spera wrote:

One of them relates to max speed limit on Highways here in the 06 department of Southern France. We are the first department (State, or counry ?)to go for 110 KM per hour max, whereas the rest of France has a max limit of 130.

I wonder when / if they'll correct it in the NavTeq maps...

...at least with my GO930 I can correct speed limits instantly. That was a significant factor in my chosing the GO930 over one of the NUVI units.

I definitely think the "fix it yourself" map feature will, one day, cripple Garmin sales...plus, the TomTom routing is light years ahead of Garmin...my 340S drives the way I know is better in my local area...Garmin, no matter how I set it up, usually chooses a retarded route...that said, the Garmin graphics and ease of use FAR SURPASS TomTom...if these two companies ever merge the combo unit is going to be a MEGASTAR! smile Of course, given corporate culture these days they will probably design a unit with TomTom graphics and bassackward use issues and Garmin routing with no "fix it abilities" wink

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how long to fix map?

Hi Spera,
Thanks for the excellent response. That gives me a sense of things. It is good to hear that other people also experience technology magic also - given the complexity, magic (or voodoo) is needed.

I wonder how different NAVTEQ is from Google in Europe vs. US. Both companies seem to have a global reach. Does the map database implementation fall short somewhere.

Hi Aardvark,
> "tough. NAVTEQ is right and your house is wrong!"
Ha. You made me laugh out loud.
Yours, Marc

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now that i saw the original

now that i saw the original post it makes me wonder if they ever fixed an error i submitted. it was kinda funny since they put the empire state building in jersey city, new jersey. now i understand not everyone has ever been to the big apple, but you take for granted that this landmark would be placed correctly, but what do i know.