Garmin Map Update 2010.4

 

I just loaded 2010.4 update onto my Garmin 1690.I noticed that while driving on major highways the update now includes "roads" that are not exits. Hence the unit now has (the obnoxious) "Road Ahead" in the banner where the exit information used to be. Once you pass the "road" it puts the next exit. This is just plain stupid as no one can exit anyway. Anyone else experiencing/annoyed by this?

Also

I would like to know why Garmin does not put the distance to the next exit anymore (in NON-navigation mode)? My 2610 did.. I should be able to look up and with one glance know how far the next exit is...not just what exit it is....DUMB

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I've also noticed my unit is referencing exits that don't even exist on my routes since I installed the update. When I try the navigation feature to return home it completely avoids the main highway and only directs me to the minor side roads. There is something terribly off about this update. I don't know if it would be unit specific, but my Nuvi 680 is acting awfully odd now.

hard reset.

Did you do a hard reset after the update? It may not help, but I have had some wierd problems after map updates that have been resolved with a hard reset.

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Was about to update map

I'll watch this thread for a while first.

Something wrong with testing?

Why does Garmin seem to get it wrong all the time? Could it be lack of proper testing? I think they need a new team leader for their testing dept.

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A Guess

More likely just stripping out useful features so they can reserve those for new high-end units.

new update

When installing a new map update you will need to perform a hard reset and then (don't forget) to go back into your settings and plug in what you've had before.

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Hard Reset

I have never done a hard reset on my C530 with any
of the other updates and have not had any problems
to my knowledge before?

I noticed that after upgrade to .4 - it looks like
there went BACK to old data - the exits don't match and the routing is screwed up. Keep recalculating on a straight road that takes me right to my destination. I think this update is SCREWED UP !!

One thing the software that was installed on my PC with this update allows you to look at the old maps
and compare them - I am going to look more closely at
this when I get a chance.

Crew

Garmin 2010.4 update

Thanks all.. I appreciate the suggestions.
I had not hard reset the unit yet.. That is a good thought.

As far as the update for the mapping errors go, it looks like I have watch these erroneous ROAD AHEAD banners for a while, cuz I ain't dropping more coin for map updates.

By the Way... Do you know how stupid it looks to be driving down the highway at 70 mph and have your GPS say that there is "ROAD AHEAD"? This verbiage is as stupid as "NO SMOKING" sign on a gas pump.

Thanks for the heads up

I'll wait a while before attempt to upgrade. smile

Jeff

Jeff, For all I know, this

Jeff,

For all I know, this bug might be just in my area. That being said, I doubt that any changes from your current map to the most recent mapset will be all that substantial. My 2610 map set was 5 years old with very little variant to reality.

I am not sure how updating a GPS (up to)4 times a year is going to deliver any more true value. Last time I checked, those highways and bi-ways we drive haven't moved much, so save the $ till there is a justifiable need to know where the latest "starbucks" is.

The GPS companies have moved away from the "buy it once and you are set for life" model to the annual subscription services .The new Garmin costs $60/year after the "free" 2 years. TomTom is $120/year after the first month. The differences between the 2 companies are that Garmin gets you up front for the $$.

Garmin's future revenue stream are going to be based on 3 things.
Selling new units
NuLink internet service
and mapping updates.

Jeff, For all I know, this

Jeff,

For all I know, this bug might be just in my area. That being said, I doubt that any changes from your current map to the most recent mapset will be all that substantial. My older Garmin 2610 map set was 5 years old with very little variant to reality.

I am not sure how updating a GPS (up to)4 times a year is going to deliver any more true value. Last time I checked, those highways and bi-ways we drive haven't moved much, so save the $ till there is a justifiable need to know where the latest "starbucks" is.

The GPS companies have moved away from the "buy it once and you are set for life" model to the annual subscription services .The new Garmin costs $60/year after the "free" 2 years. TomTom is $120/year after the first month. The differences between the 2 companies are that Garmin gets you up front for the $$.

Garmin's future revenue stream are going to be based on 3 things.
Selling new units
NuLink internet service
and mapping updates.

blah

detailer201 wrote:

Jeff,

I am not sure how updating a GPS (up to)4 times a year is going to deliver any more true value. Last time I checked, those highways and bi-ways we drive haven't moved much, so save the $ till there is a justifiable need to know where the latest "starbucks" is.

Admitedly, knowing where the newest Starbucks is, isnt that important for most people, but frankly, often, there are many other updates to the POI info/map data that are important. 2 obvious things: Hurricane Katrina (turned much of southern louisiana into a ghost town), and the barge accident that took out the i40 bridge in Oklahoma. Less obvious stuff - Surprisingly, it seems like a LOT of gas stations are closing in my area, many of them near the freeway - likely due to the fact that normaly the stations by the freeway are as much as $0.25/gallon more than if you drive another mile down the street.

That would be great

b25crew wrote:

I have never done a hard reset on my C530 with any
of the other updates and have not had any problems
to my knowledge before?

I noticed that after upgrade to .4 - it looks like
there went BACK to old data - the exits don't match and the routing is screwed up. Keep recalculating on a straight road that takes me right to my destination. I think this update is SCREWED UP !!

One thing the software that was installed on my PC with this update allows you to look at the old maps
and compare them - I am going to look more closely at
this when I get a chance.

Crew

It would be interesting to learn what you find out after comparing the two. did anyone contact Garmin yet? I haven't updated to the new map yet. Guess I will wait until this is cleared up, hopefully.

Hmm

So, here are the choices for now. We all backed up our maps.................RIGHT? We can restore .30 and complain to Garmin in the mean time. They will listen to our complaints rolleyes
And for all you people who got .40 as a free update and or paid for it Garmin will generously let you download .50 rolleyes

Sound about right?

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backup, backup, backup...

Speed2 wrote:

We all backed up our maps.................RIGHT? We can restore .30 and complain to Garmin in the mean time.

This is the first thing I do after I've downloaded a new map update. I have every map version since they were first loaded to the unit as actual files (nuvi 350 when released). It only takes maybe 45 minutes at the most (depending on the unit since some transfer/receive at USB 1.x speed) to copy the map image & unlock file (gmapprom.img & gmapprom.unl) to a backup source.

I also image my hard drive on a weekly basis...restoring the image takes only 10 minutes at the most and reinstalling Windows from scratch to what it was before something got hosed can take days.
It may be redundant but my data is worth enough to me that any redundancy is outweighed by my peace of mind, knowing that it's backed up.

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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area

Didn't i say that?

DorkusNimrod wrote:
Speed2 wrote:

We all backed up our maps.................RIGHT? We can restore .30 and complain to Garmin in the mean time.

This is the first thing I do after I've downloaded a new map update. I have every map version since they were first loaded to the unit as actual files (nuvi 350 when released). It only takes maybe 45 minutes at the most (depending on the unit since some transfer/receive at USB 1.x speed) to copy the map image & unlock file (gmapprom.img & gmapprom.unl) to a backup source.

I also image my hard drive on a weekly basis...restoring the image takes only 10 minutes at the most and reinstalling Windows from scratch to what it was before something got hosed can take days.
It may be redundant but my data is worth enough to me that any redundancy is outweighed by my peace of mind, knowing that it's backed up.

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

maybe you did...

Speed2 wrote:

Didn't i say that?

Maybe you did say it but I thought I'd mention it myself and beat a dead horse... mrgreen

It usually takes something like losing data that will make someone realize that backups are always a good idea, even if it seems silly and/or redundant.

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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area

It's offiical "The horse is dead"

DorkusNimrod wrote:
Speed2 wrote:

Didn't i say that?

Maybe you did say it but I thought I'd mention it myself and beat a dead horse... mrgreen

You got that impression too? laugh out loud
On that note, I wonder if, under "getting started"
there could be a mention before one starts with adding poi files for the new people a section on "Back up your GPS first"

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

Thanks for the useful information

I still have the 2008 maps. I'll probably stick with it for a little longer. I hate when upgrades are not quite and upgrade at all.

Value of updating maps

If you live in North Texas like I do, there is some value in updating the maps. About every six months, they are opening a new stretch of those "Pay to Drive" toll roads. Even though they do cost, they can cut significant time off of some routes. I just wish the mapping company would get the info sooner. They stil haven't picked up a major change that happened about six months ago.

Map back ups?

Speed2 wrote:

So, here are the choices for now. We all backed up our maps.................RIGHT? We can restore .30 and complain to Garmin in the mean time. They will listen to our complaints rolleyes
And for all you people who got .40 as a free update and or paid for it Garmin will generously let you download .50 rolleyes

Sound about right?

How do you back up a map? I did a quick search on the topic and came up with nothing. Nothing in the manual that I could find.

I have a Nuvi 765T.

Thanks,

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Map back ups

Ultra Ken wrote:
Speed2 wrote:

So, here are the choices for now. We all backed up our maps.................RIGHT? We can restore .30 and complain to Garmin in the mean time. They will listen to our complaints rolleyes
And for all you people who got .40 as a free update and or paid for it Garmin will generously let you download .50 rolleyes

Sound about right?

How do you back up a map? I did a quick search on the topic and came up with nothing. Nothing in the manual that I could find.
I have a Nuvi 765T.

Thanks,

Back-up the whole unit, much easier than trying to back up the image files, sum files and so on. You should do that BEFORE you even think about using the files on this site. wink

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

i wont be updating the maps

i wont be updating the maps until 2011

edit: garmin really has to do some housecleaning of its incompetent software engineers and Quality Control people.

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Map Backups,

You can do this in Windows Explorer by selecting everything in the Nuvi directory and copying to a new directory in your c-drive.
Just make sure you click on the "show hidden files & folders" tab in Tools/Folder options/View, otherwise you may miss a few files.

Make sure

Make sure you change setting in Folder Options (Windows Explorer window) and under View you uncheck "Hide protected operating system files". Otherwise you will not back up all files from your Garmin, including maps.

Map back ups

Hmm my last post didn't really explain it at all did it?
Ok here's how i do it. Hook up the unit to the computer via USB. Go into my Computer and locate your Unit. Find some space on your Hard drive and make a directory called Garmin. Highlight all the files and directory's on your unit, right click with mouse and hit "copy". Find the directory you named Garmin on your Hard drive, highlight it and right click the mouse and hit "paste" It will copy all your files. Now for people who don't know how to see all the files on your unit, do this. If you go through My Computer you will see your unit, most likely called "Garmin nüvi"
Right click it with the mouse and hit "copy" Then right click your hard drive where you want to copy the files to and hit "paste" Sometimes it will kick your unit out, don't worry just try it again. One more thing. The first way i explained you need to make sure that you checked hidden files in options otherwise you might miss some. The second way, it doesn't seem to matter, not on my xp pro machine that is. Check to show hidden filed and folders anyway...just to be safe. smile

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

While it is important to

While it is important to make a backup copy of the Garmin files on your computer.Maybe more important to have a copy on a flash drive or dvd.If the computer goes puff you may have nothing you can re-cover.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Map back ups

charlesd45 wrote:

While it is important to make a backup copy of the Garmin files on your computer.Maybe more important to have a copy on a flash drive or dvd.If the computer goes puff you may have nothing you can re-cover.

There's something to be said about this statement. I run two external hard drives and 6 internals. All my important stuff gets backed up, if you will, on my externals. There's nothing worse than loosing important data. I've lost my Server twice. Power outages can reek havoc also. Its a cheap investment in a sense. Programs i don't back up, just my saved Data. For me that's a given and i forget that, that's not always the case with other people. Good point charlesd45.

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DriveSmart 65 - We do not live in Igloo's and do not all ride to work on snow mobiles.

I agree that power outages

I agree that power outages reek.

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Nuvi 680

I haven't noticed this problem as of yet but will look for it ASAP. Did the info on what to avoid? Like I have mine avoid non paved roads, there is a setting that lets you avoid toll roads etc.

skydivemo wrote:

I've also noticed my unit is referencing exits that don't even exist on my routes since I installed the update. When I try the navigation feature to return home it completely avoids the main highway and only directs me to the minor side roads. There is something terribly off about this update. I don't know if it would be unit specific, but my Nuvi 680 is acting awfully odd now.

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Legs

Living around NYC and other

Living around NYC and other major cities there are always road changes (i.e. one way streets that pop out of no where) that completely change routes, so map updates do make quite a difference in those situations. Because of that, I want to update but not if there is a problem going on.
If someone can confirm or refute any problems, I've still got free updates for a month so I want to hop on this if it turns out to be okay.

So, you want

someone else braver than you, to take the risk? smile

Well I am and i did this for you, and everything is humpty dorry.

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If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else. - Yogi Berra

All's OK

So far, I haven't had any problems with this new map upgrade.

In fact, it seemed to fix some problems I was having with Toronto xplorer v.2010.30. With NT2010.30 and Toronto xplorer both running, I lost turn-by-turn directions in Toronto when driving. If I detoured from my route, the 1490T created bizarre new routes.

The v.2010.40 NT maps have elimiated those problems.

Nuvi 680

After a little trouble shooting I was able to determine the problem is with a stretch of highway in my area that was just rebuilt with major changes to exits and overpasses. The changes were included with 2010.3, which I found impressive as the highway just reopened. Somehow the updates were lost with 2010.4 and now if I try to navigate anywhere around this section of highway it will route me off of the highway. Once you are past this section the routing program acts normally and puts you right back on the highway. I'm guessing it is a very specific map error here in St. Louis, MO. I've used the reporting tool on the Garmin website to report it. With a little luck it will be fixed in the next release. I only wished I'd had saved the last map file so I could put 2010.3 back on.

legatzke wrote:

I haven't noticed this problem as of yet but will look for it ASAP. Did the info on what to avoid? Like I have mine avoid non paved roads, there is a setting that lets you avoid toll roads etc.

skydivemo wrote:

I've also noticed my unit is referencing exits that don't even exist on my routes since I installed the update. When I try the navigation feature to return home it completely avoids the main highway and only directs me to the minor side roads. There is something terribly off about this update. I don't know if it would be unit specific, but my Nuvi 680 is acting awfully odd now.

It's been better for me

I've already noticed better, more logical, routing in my area for a few locations. Haven't noticed any problems.

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Not lost anymore. Well, not as it pertains to driving anyway. -Garmin Nuvi 765t, 56 unt Mac user.

I agree - so far!

Poifect wrote:

I've already noticed better, more logical, routing in my area for a few locations. Haven't noticed any problems.

Neither have I.

New I-64 St. Louis

I just sent in about 4 corrections for the NEXT update. The ramps on I-64 at most of the intersections were all re-done and 2010.4 does not reflect the changes. I have no idea why my C530 started doing the "recalculating" allot while on I-64 (after 2010.4 update) - nothing I can see would indicate that I-64 is closed in the mapping software that I can see. Looking at Mapquest and GOOGLE maps the ramps are not corrected either. Road was just re-opened for traffic on in December.

New I-64 St. Louis

I've noticed if you start from St. Louis and select a location out in Chesterfield that would logically take you down I-64W regardless of any changes in exits you'll be routed to avoid the stretch from Kingshighway to I-270. Once past 270 it will route you back onto I-64W. I've even tried turning off the avoidance feature on the off chance it was listed as closed somehow that wasn't showing up on the GPS units live traffic. They obviously made a major error mapping the area. It had been mapped properly with 2010.3 so I'm a little confused what happened. Thanks for making the reports. I'm hoping enough postings make it into the system that the updates are made for 2010.5.

b25crew wrote:

I just sent in about 4 corrections for the NEXT update. The ramps on I-64 at most of the intersections were all re-done and 2010.4 does not reflect the changes. I have no idea why my C530 started doing the "recalculating" allot while on I-64 (after 2010.4 update) - nothing I can see would indicate that I-64 is closed in the mapping software that I can see. Looking at Mapquest and GOOGLE maps the ramps are not corrected either. Road was just re-opened for traffic on in December.

successful backup but can't find files.

Speed2 wrote:

Hmm my last post didn't really explain it at all did it?
Ok here's how i do it. Hook up the unit to the computer via USB. Go into my Computer and locate your Unit. Find some space on your Hard drive and make a directory called Garmin. Highlight all the files and directory's on your unit, right click with mouse and hit "copy". Find the directory you named Garmin on your Hard drive, highlight it and right click the mouse and hit "paste" It will copy all your files. Now for people who don't know how to see all the files on your unit, do this. If you go through My Computer you will see your unit, most likely called "Garmin nüvi"
Right click it with the mouse and hit "copy" Then right click your hard drive where you want to copy the files to and hit "paste" Sometimes it will kick your unit out, don't worry just try it again. One more thing. The first way i explained you need to make sure that you checked hidden files in options otherwise you might miss some. The second way, it doesn't seem to matter, not on my xp pro machine that is. Check to show hidden filed and folders anyway...just to be safe. smile

Thanks. I backed up my 765t according to your directions. however, I didn't see the custom pois that I had downloaded onto the nuvi unit. where are they in the files?

another stupid question

where is the map file? thanks.

Skip It

I guess I'll let this one go by and get the next one - provided they have corrected the errors in 2010.4. Thanks for letting us know about this.

Yeah they (NavTeq) screwed up.

Yeah they screwed up the I-64 corridor in St. Louis.
Ramps are wrong at a number of intersections.
I-64 is "again" marked under construction till
May. It (the construction not the ramps)was correct in 2010.3 after 1/10/2010

see my post in:

nuMaps Lifetime North America 2010.40 released

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/27390?page=2

They still haven't added a

They still haven't added a new development 1000 feet north of me that was started four years ago...

760 updated and running well

760 updated and running well with 2010.4 update

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I will have to give it a

I will have to give it a whirl.

So far, it works fine. Still

So far, it works fine. Still haven't found the flaws yet on my 265WT.

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Still has falws with data

The NTS Thruway (I87) exit 17 (Newburgh) still is not correct in the latest release. At least 8 months ago the exit was reconfigured so you could go directly from I87 - I84. Being this is 2 major interstate roads, I had expected to see the change in release 10.3, yet 10.4 still has the issue. Yes I had already submitted the update request.
What would be nice (and maybe it does exist) is to see a list of updates for each new version.

Map Update

Yes, I agree, I put a request to Garmin as well to include the new Changes to the release as they are posted on the web. I don't think it will happen

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Thanx BiLL Solomon

I don't want to speak for

I don't want to speak for any of you all, but after dropping $400.+, I just want the unit software and maps to improve. So far that has yet to happen. Garmin needs to be a little sharper on delivering dependability/reliability on what the sell.

garmin

Yes I believe that is true.

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