FM Transmitter strength fix

 

I, like everybody else, have complained about the drastically underpowered FM transmitter in my nuvi. I happen to have the 765T.

I just wanted to report that there is indeed a way to adjust this, and I was 100% unaware of this. I figured I'd let everyone else know about this in case anyone else here was in the same boat as I with regard to this issue.

If you hold down the battery icon in the top right corner (or the spot where the icon would be if it weren't plugged into external power) you will get into the system diagnostics area of the device. From there, if you hit "next" a few times to get to the audio screen, you'll see a radio button you can touch in order to adjust the output power of the FM transmitter.

For whatever it's worth, I raised mine from the default 100db to the max of 115db, and tested it out. It's 100% better now, and it totally useable and actually sounds good with both the navigation instructions and w/.mp3s!

Anyway, I know this had been one of my biggest complaints about the nuvi, and I'm sure that I'm not alone in feeling this way. So the way I see it, one of my biggest gripes with the model I had chosen has been eradicated, and if I could alleviate this issue for even one other person, I'll be doing my good deed of the day.

Cheers,
Jeff

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Thank you. SO far, it works

Thank you. SO far, it works as suggested.

Touch "FM Power"

gerrydrake wrote:
sdventure wrote:
heislerb wrote:

I have and 880. I went to the FM auto test page and the power level shows 120. I have not changed anything. My unit seems to work fairly well with the FM transmitter. I am in Canada, just in case that makes a difference. After re-seting and going back it shows 102 and now I do not know if it was 102 and I wrote down 120 or I chaged it by accident.

I just changed it from 102 to 105. Shut it down and restarted it. The GPS shows ready to Navigate and it stayed at 105.

So on my 885T the default setting is 102 and it works
pretty well as is, but I can change it to 120 and even power off (remember power-off on 885T is really a stand-by mode) the unit and it will stick unless I change to internal speaker mode or do a reset, in which case it goes back to 102. No special magic or Hocus-Pocus needed.

I have an 885T, also, but I can not find a default setting of 102 or anything else. How did you get to the default setting? I had set it to FM output, then pressed on the battery until the test page came up and then I kept going til I got to the audio output test page but can't see a default setting of any kind.

Touch "FM Power" while on the diagnostic page and the default number should appear close to the top in the middle of the screen.

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I Think This was an Excellent discovery!

JeffGoobs wrote:

No problem, tke1. Much appreciated.

I don't have an 1/8" aux input in my car (or a tape input for that matter) so adjusting these parameters each time I get into the car is a crude "fix" with which I'm willing to deal.

I understand that the settings didn't stick. That doesn't mean that this is useless information though. As I stated in the OP, despite the fix being temporary, it still worked.

So as much of a "waste of time" that some of the previous posters have made this discussion out to be, if someone else had posted this infomation, I'd have been thrilled.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well!

Regards,
Jeff

Hey, i understand how you feel after reading various peoples comments and how they are saying its a waste of time because the settings reset after every use i for one dont mind taking the necessary steps before i drive to get it to work! I think this was an excellent discovery and im very happy that you posted it because now i wont have to worry about not being able to hear my nuvi not so well! and i will be able to hear calls better, all for the price of simply changing some setting! so i THANK YOU, for posting this smile

Magic "Test" icon in "Tools" (on 885T).

alandb wrote:

gerrydrake, it works differently on the 8x5 series than it does on other nuvi's. You have to go into the Test Page buttons ... display map, press the speed button, press and hold the speedometer until you get the Test Page menu buttons. Scroll down and you will see the FM transmitter test. This is how you get into the FM transmitter test settings, but I do not use the FM transmitter, so I don't know whether the settings stick or not.

Also note that on the 885T, once you enter
Test Pages mode, there will be a "Test" icon (wrench) in the "Tools" page. You can use the "Test" icon to quickly get into the Test Pages and change the FM Transmitter settings. Note, the "Test" icon will disappear if you reset/reboot, but will stick on 885T power-on/off.

Your welcome. I'm glad it

Your welcome. I'm glad it helped.

By the way is there a setting on this forum to email me when replies are added to a post? Thanks.

No

oblachubs wrote:

Your welcome. I'm glad it helped.

By the way is there a setting on this forum to email me when replies are added to a post? Thanks.

Sorry, no.

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855

I was able to use the instructions to change my unit from the default of 99 for RC Power Level to 120. Tested it with a soft power off and it holds. Reseting the unit (removing the battery) and RC Power Level returns to the default 99. Will try it at 120 in my car in the morning.

PS - when holding the speedometer button, it takes 5 seconds to get to the test screens.

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I have a 755T but I think

On my 755T, I can't get the increase to stick either. When I 'exit' after following the above steps, my db is back down to 105db (vs. the 115db I had set it at)

Read my post on a prev page

Read my post on a prev page how to change it so it sticks.

Also does anyone know of a setting that will boost the microphone for hands free bluetooth calling? this unit barely picks up my voice and whomever I'm calling doesn't or can hardly hear me. Thanks.

Here is what I use.

It helps greatly because, the GPSr is generally not in a optimum position for the built in mic's performance and your voice. Add the external Mic mount it to your visor and bada bing a good sounding hands free unit.
http://tinyurl.com/yats56m

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Mic Gain

oblachubs wrote:

Read my post on a prev page how to change it so it sticks.

Also does anyone know of a setting that will boost the microphone for hands free bluetooth calling? this unit barely picks up my voice and whomever I'm calling doesn't or can hardly hear me. Thanks.

On the 885T there is a Mic Gain (ADC Capture Volume) icon on the first Test Page. It has a default setting of 76%. I guess you would be a happy camper if someone could figure out if the 755 has
an equivalent "Test Pages" mode.

No Mic gain

I don't see a Mic gain on my 765T, it might just be that it is only on the voice response units.

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I said to heck with it, and just got a Jawbone BT headset. I get a call, or need to make one, I just put it in my ear and it's done. Besides, they're so cheap these days for a decent unit.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

My mic gain is defaulta to

My mic gain is defaulta to 80%. Would it be better if it was set to 72% or 90%?

It depends

gerrydrake wrote:

My mic gain is defaulta to 80%. Would it be better if it was set to 72% or 90%?

Setting the gain one way or the other affects the operation. Turning down (72%) the gain means you have to speak louder bur the ambient background noise is not picked up as much. Increasing the gain (90%) means more ambient noise competes with what you are trying to get the unit to understand or send over the bluetooth connection to your phone.

The best solution is if your unit supports it, an external noise canceling mic. But they cost around $40 last time I looked.

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Thanks, very helpful.

Thanks, very helpful.

FM Transmitter

I have tried three different makes and have not been able to find a successful solution. I installed one in my dash that I got from Best Buy. It has an on off switch and works great. A lot more expensive solution but when you compare the performance worth twice the cost.

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Portable speakers

I tried the FM and found there is to much interfecence in LA. I did find that a portable speaker system for IPods will work just fine.

It is powered by two AA batteries that seem to last a long time, and does make the volume louder. For $14 at Wally, it is worth it. Also, you can still use the radio.

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waste of time...

steve771 wrote:

On my 755T, I can't get the increase to stick either. When I 'exit' after following the above steps, my db is back down to 105db (vs. the 115db I had set it at)

I tried it several times with the same result as above.

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vk

my 885 sticks as long as I

my 885 sticks as long as I don't do a reset.

More on the 885T's Mic Gain...

There are actually two mics on the 885T (one at the front top center and the other at the right bottom edge). In addition to the mic (ADC Capture Volume)setting that I mentioned in a previous post, there is also a "Mic 1 Gain" and a "Mic 2 Gain" setting that can be set from the Test Page's Mic Gain button. As with the other settings, they only stick if you don't reset/reboot.

that's good...

sdventure wrote:

There are actually two mics on the 885T (one at the front top center and the other at the right bottom edge). In addition to the mic (ADC Capture Volume)setting that I mentioned in a previous post, there is also a "Mic 1 Gain" and a "Mic 2 Gain" setting that can be set from the Test Page's Mic Gain button. As with the other settings, they only stick if you don't reset/reboot.

That's good to know, thanks!

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~Jim~ Nuvi-660, & Nuvi-680

2 mics on 885T.

Do you know if the 2 mics are interconnected or is one for voice recognition and the other for bluetooth? If they are not interconnected, which one is tied to the external mic jack on the cradle?

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Thanks - much appreciated.

Thanks - much appreciated.

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how

to get to save?

2 mics on 885T.

alandb wrote:

Do you know if the 2 mics are interconnected or is one for voice recognition and the other for bluetooth? If they are not interconnected, which one is tied to the external mic jack on the cradle?

Not sure but I believe I read somewhere that the dual mics is one of the reasons why the 885T has such good voice recognition. The owner's manual references the two mics but not in any detail.
My guess would be that they are interconnected.

Most confusing thread on this site!

This issue is very important to many of us .
I am wondering what % of the poi community have made the changes stick.
Is the key indeed setting up the unit to the European standard?
Which would maximize the transmiter strengh.
It seems some posters in this thread think this
issue is a bit of a dead horse while others swear
if done correctly works and STICKS through a power up.
If you have found the answer please post again.
thank you all for your input on this important issue.

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Worked for me

.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

Agreed, confusing

alphadog808 wrote:

This issue is very important to many of us .
I am wondering what % of the poi community have made the changes stick.

Agreed. I'm not sure after reading this if this is fact in only some cases, or if done a certain way would be permanent in all cases. I'll keep trying.

Some hardware solutions to the FM Transmitter issue...

Some guy figured out a hardware modification to increase the FM Transmitter strength on the Nuvi 600 series. Here is the link:
http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=14134

And here's some links to a hardware solution for the Nuvi 775 / 860 / 880 (I think a similar solution was mentioned in this thread):
http://www.gomadic.com/garmin-nuvi-775t-car-auto-charger-fm-...
http://www.gomadic.com/garmin-nuvi-860-car-auto-charger-fm-t...
http://www.gomadic.com/garmin-nuvi-880-car-auto-charger-fm-t...

And yes,... it would be nice if the perfect software solution existed... And it looks like some folks are searching for it via a hack...
See the last post by Kubel on Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:43am
http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=688

FM Pwr

sdventure wrote:

Snip
And yes,... it would be nice if the perfect software solution existed... And it looks like some folks are searching for it via a hack...
See the last post by Kubel on Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:43am
http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=688

A software solution would be the best solution to the FM power level problem. Modifying the unit internally is chancy at best, a little bit of hand shake or an ungrounded soldering iron and you could be looking for a new GPS.

I did find an FM transmitter at Wal-Mart for $12 that works very well. It is made by Scosche and I found it in the Auto Dept. Plugs in the earphone jack and gives full quieting on both my car radios. But it isn't the perfect solution, its external to the GPS and you have to replace the 2 AAA batteries about every 15-20 hours of use.

ditto!

alphadog808 wrote:

This issue is very important to many of us .
I am wondering what % of the poi community have made the changes stick.
Is the key indeed setting up the unit to the European standard?
Which would maximize the transmiter strengh.
It seems some posters in this thread think this
issue is a bit of a dead horse while others swear
if done correctly works and STICKS through a power up.
If you have found the answer please post again.
thank you all for your input on this important issue.

Ditto!

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Garmin c340, Nuvi 350, Nuvi 765T, Nuvi 2360LMT

Never Worked For Me

I could never get the change to stick. That's why I bought a Sony cassette adapter almost 2 years ago. It works fine for me.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2021.20 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

One thing I noticed

Gary A wrote:

That's why I bought a Sony cassette adapter almost 2 years ago. It works fine for me.

I use the cassette adapter in my car, much better than the FM output.

One thing I noticed (by accident) was my FM signal got better (louder/less noice) when I plugged a cable into the unit, kind of like it was using it as an output antenna. I'll have to try this out, on purpose this time, next time I have it in the car.

Not sticking for me... hanging... and satellites!

PCPro wrote:

I have tried the instruction as stated (even though some said it did not work!) and did some testing. I have found it does stick... Here is what I did and tested.

1) Turned on the FM output
2) went into the settings screen (pressing the power icon)
3) paged over to the output settings
4) pressed the FM Power selection (lower left)
5) set FM Property Value to 115db
6) press back to the first page (SW Ver)
7) pressed exit.

The GPS rebooted and checked the screen to verify the settings was still 115db (and it was) then exit.

Switch back to Internal Speaker and rebooted. Went back into the settings screen, the FM output was now at 100db. Exit/rebooted.

Switch output back to FM Transmitter. Went back to the settings screen for output... the setting was back to 115db.

So it does work!

Tried the above but I never seem to get past the reboot... just sits there on the Garmin logo. A switch off/restart puts the signal strength back at 100db.

Has anyone tried pressing the signal strength icon (upper left)? Very cool screen comes up for me showing moving satellites and the signal strength from each. Anyone doing better than 6 meter accuracy?

Good to know. Now it's time to find my cassette adapter.

855guy wrote:
Gary A wrote:

That's why I bought a Sony cassette adapter almost 2 years ago. It works fine for me.

I use the cassette adapter in my car, much better than the FM output.

One thing I noticed (by accident) was my FM signal got better (louder/less noice) when I plugged a cable into the unit, kind of like it was using it as an output antenna. I'll have to try this out, on purpose this time, next time I have it in the car.

Thanks for the help on the FM button

Thanks for the help on the FM button

Thanks for the info.

Thanks for sharing this info it sure has made a difference.

JeffGoobs wrote:

I, like everybody else, have complained about the drastically underpowered FM transmitter in my nuvi. I happen to have the 765T.

I just wanted to report that there is indeed a way to adjust this, and I was 100% unaware of this. I figured I'd let everyone else know about this in case anyone else here was in the same boat as I with regard to this issue.

If you hold down the battery icon in the top right corner (or the spot where the icon would be if it weren't plugged into external power) you will get into the system diagnostics area of the device. From there, if you hit "next" a few times to get to the audio screen, you'll see a radio button you can touch in order to adjust the output power of the FM transmitter.

For whatever it's worth, I raised mine from the default 100db to the max of 115db, and tested it out. It's 100% better now, and it totally useable and actually sounds good with both the navigation instructions and w/.mp3s!

Anyway, I know this had been one of my biggest complaints about the nuvi, and I'm sure that I'm not alone in feeling this way. So the way I see it, one of my biggest gripes with the model I had chosen has been eradicated, and if I could alleviate this issue for even one other person, I'll be doing my good deed of the day.

Cheers,
Jeff

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Thanks to all contributers-

Lotsa ideas.

Thanks to all contributers-

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FM power output from Nuvi

I have made this adjustment but haven't tried it yet.
I have to say that when I became disgusted with the FM audio quality and poor signal level I bought a cassette adaptor and plugged it into the headphone jack on my 755T.
The audio quality is superb and you don't have to constantly worry with changing the FM output frequency as you move from city to city.
We enjoy audio books transferred to the SD card in our unit. I fully understand that current automobiles might not include a Cassette player. Both our 2004 Camry and out 2007 Dodge Caravan. (I would happily trade it for a CD player that would play MP3's

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Best Regards, Mike

I'll have to try this on my

I'll have to try this on my 755T when I get home.

it's funny...

mike_flood wrote:

I have made this adjustment but haven't tried it yet.
I have to say that when I became disgusted with the FM audio quality and poor signal level I bought a cassette adaptor and plugged it into the headphone jack on my 755T.
The audio quality is superb and you don't have to constantly worry with changing the FM output frequency as you move from city to city.
We enjoy audio books transferred to the SD card in our unit. I fully understand that current automobiles might not include a Cassette player. Both our 2004 Camry and out 2007 Dodge Caravan. (I would happily trade it for a CD player that would play MP3's

It is funny..people on this thread try all kind of tricks, istead of making Garmin to deliver...buying the product and then having "homework" to fix what Garmin screwed...unbelievable but true reality...

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2009 Camry Came With "Line In" Plug

My 2009 Camry came with "Line In" plug. That works great for audio. I used the cassette adapter in the 2002 Caravan. The results are comparable. For phone, I use a bluetooth headset. The only problems I find are: the navigation isn't muted for calls and if I put on the radio, I don't get any PS audio. Both avoidable if I pay attention.

Garmin 775T

I got bluetooth connection in my car. Is it possible to output thru. bluetooth. I can stream mp3 thru. just fine but can't seem to get voice guidance to output thru. bluetooth. Fm transmitter strenght fix did work on my 775 too.

FM Transmitter Strength fix?...

Hi all,

I just bought a Nuvi765T (in Alberta Canada) with this FM underpower problem.

I have just spent several hours trying to make this work every which way I can and it ALWAYS returns to the 107db setting.

Perhaps some clarification is required?

Here is what I have done...

1) Turned on the FM output (Volume Icon - Audio Output)
2) Gone to the Diagnostics Settings Screen (Held down the Power Icon)
3) Paged over to the Output Settings Screen
4) Pressed the 'FM Power' selection (lower left)
5) Set the 'FM Property Value' to 115db
6) Pressed 'Back' to the first page (SW Version is listed at the top of this screen))
7) Pressed Exit.

The GPS soft rebooted, and from the resulting 'Where To' Screen, I went to Diagnostics (see 2 above) and noted the setting was again 100db or 107db. (NOT 115db).

I then tried a manual switch off to (hard) reboot and checked the settings - back to 107db

I tried Steps 1 to 7 a total of six times with the same results - The programmer in me likes to be thorough...

I then tried pressing 'Next' until the system returned to the 'SW Ver' Screen, then pressing 'Exit'.

Switching back to Internal Speaker (Volume Icon - Audio Output)and rebooting hard or soft had no effect - At the Diagnostics Settings Screen the FM output was ALWAYS at 100db or 107db.

Changing the operating action settings (again, at the Diagnostics Settings Screen NOT the Audio Output Screen)from FM back to Internal Speaker still showed 115db while you were at that screen. After 'Back-Back-Exit' or 'Next-Next-Exit' and reboot (soft OR hard) the settings ALWAYS returned to either 100 or 107db.

Sooooo.... At least for my recently purchased and updated Nuvi 765T(Software Version 3.90 running on the Nuvi 765 V11 4GB P1 330Mhz)this simply doesn't work!

NOTE: All of these attempts were performed with the Unit out of the mounting cradle. The FM Transmitter itself was NOT hooked into the GPS at the time I tried to change settings. I will attempt this entire procedure over again with the unit in the cradle and the Transmitter connected.

However,.... I'm a dog with a bone everyone - I spent good money on this Unit and would like to be able to enjoy it properly.

It would help if everyone who's tried this on the 765T (including the person who was successful) contact me or post their software versions.

I would greatly appreciate anyone doing so and will report any progress at a later date...

Ciao for now,

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Andrew

Question

Andrew - doesn't the new value stick if you do not reboot?

Answer - No

UPDATE ON TESTING:

I just did all of the previously noted tests again with the Transmitter installed with the same results. It's apparent this particular setting is not saveable by the end user - although other settings such as the FM Frequency are!

The fact the 'Fix' works initially yet can't be saved promotes the conclusion this software issue is either enforced by regulatory legislation or it's a programming glitch.

If everyone having this problem with their Units could send me their SW Version and Garmin Model Numbers it would go a long way towards - hopefully - our resolving this.

In addition - anyone having success with the FM transmitter power could also advise the same information.

We could then approach Garmin with an observed and tested problem (with supporting facts) and either suggest they fix the problem, or give us all an explanation why they can't or won't do so.

Everybody keep on Truckin'!

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Andrew

Hi Jeff! - Can you supply me your SW Version and Model Number

for the effected unit where the FM Transmitter Strength 'stuck'?

Perhaps I can set this issue to rest once and for all..

Thanks!

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Andrew

Hi Allen - Can you send me your SW Version and Model Number

you got this to work on?

I would like to pursue this with Garmin and the more info I have the better

Thanks!

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Andrew

Hi Juggernaut - Can you send me the SW Version of your 775T?

This is the Unit you managed to get the FM signal strength to stick.

I am assuming you are in Canada.

It would help me resolve this issue once and for all.

Thanks!

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Andrew
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