Confused why POI loader says this file is corrupt

 

I'm really confused by this - Garmin's POI loader tells me this gpx file is corrupt - any suggestions?

http://www.goonybird.org/TheOC_Attractions.gpx

It loaded using the latest

skunkape wrote:

I'm really confused by this - Garmin's POI loader tells me this gpx file is corrupt - any suggestions?

http://www.goonybird.org/TheOC_Attractions.gpx

It loaded using the latest Extra_POI_Editor, but checking the file showed a lot of problems. The geocoding is off on a majority of the points and many are missing critical information such as street addresses. It has coordinates, but no addresses.

I'd clean it up before including it in the OC Metro.

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a_user wrote:
skunkape wrote:

I'm really confused by this - Garmin's POI loader tells me this gpx file is corrupt - any suggestions?

http://www.goonybird.org/TheOC_Attractions.gpx

It loaded using the latest Extra_POI_Editor, but checking the file showed a lot of problems. The geocoding is off on a majority of the points and many are missing critical information such as street addresses. It has coordinates, but no addresses.

I'd clean it up before including it in the OC Metro.

Well, the addresses - thats strange - i know i put an address in for the El Toro Museum...but
yes i know 5 of the entries have no address...Newport Pier, Balboa Pier, Dana Point Harbor, San Clemente Pier - cant even find real addresses for them - but i've been to all of them and got gps readings...Dana point harbor - i should probably just pick a random address on Dana Point Harbor Dr.......maybe the Ocean Institute at the end hf D.H. Drive where i took the reading...

And sure its possible some of the places i still am relying on Geocoding for are a bit off...gonna have to get a few more reading when Im out and a bout - specifically which ones are off that you noticed? they all looked very good to me in Mapsource

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a_user wrote:
skunkape wrote:

I'm really confused by this - Garmin's POI loader tells me this gpx file is corrupt - any suggestions?

http://www.goonybird.org/TheOC_Attractions.gpx

It loaded using the latest Extra_POI_Editor, but checking the file showed a lot of problems. The geocoding is off on a majority of the points and many are missing critical information such as street addresses. It has coordinates, but no addresses.

I'd clean it up before including it in the OC Metro.

BUT - that can't be the reason POI Loader thinks the file is corrupt.....the program doesnt know there's bad data.

I'm going from memory here

I looked at the file yesterday and I couldn't run POILoader as I didn't have a unit. But POILoader when loading a GPX barfs whenever something is incorrect and doesn't provide any information other then "corrupt."

I believe all the sites had a symbol but the symbol name did not match the symbol. I did find addresses for many of the locations with a little searching using Google and Yahoo, that showed the location given for the attraction was often city center and no where near the actual street address - this was true on some of those that had addresses. One attraction is reported on other sites as closed, the Doll Museum, or more completely the Hobby City complex.

The piers and even the Dana Point harbor can be listed as intersections for an address. This at least provides a clue to someone wanting to know if the site is truly close enough to visit. All-in-all, every location in the file needs to be touched. Takes about 30-45 minutes to check the geocode, find addresses, correct names and clean up the symbol using EPE and Yahoo, Google and other sources.

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a_user wrote:

I looked at the file yesterday and I couldn't run POILoader as I didn't have a unit. But POILoader when loading a GPX barfs whenever something is incorrect and doesn't provide any information other then "corrupt."

I believe all the sites had a symbol but the symbol name did not match the symbol. I did find addresses for many of the locations with a little searching using Google and Yahoo, that showed the location given for the attraction was often city center and no where near the actual street address - this was true on some of those that had addresses. One attraction is reported on other sites as closed, the Doll Museum, or more completely the Hobby City complex.

The piers and even the Dana Point harbor can be listed as intersections for an address. This at least provides a clue to someone wanting to know if the site is truly close enough to visit. All-in-all, every location in the file needs to be touched. Takes about 30-45 minutes to check the geocode, find addresses, correct names and clean up the symbol using EPE and Yahoo, Google and other sources.

Hey - just updated the thing - I KNOW i had put in addresses for a couple of the sites....Shroud Center, the El Toro COmmand Center, etc....how they disapppeared from the file, Im not sure...anyway, Those are back, all I realy need to put in an adddress for is the the 4 piers i believe. i beleive the address of the Balboa Pier is 1 Balboa Pier, Newport beach, similar for the others, but....I'll come up with soemthing....

Im wondering if thats whats making the POI Loader choak.....

updated link

Anyway - check the link again
its been updated

did you correct the symbol problem?

skunkape wrote:

Hey - just updated the thing - I KNOW i had put in addresses for a couple of the sites....Shroud Center, the El Toro COmmand Center, etc....how they disapppeared from the file, Im not sure...anyway, Those are back, all I realy need to put in an adddress for is the the 4 piers i believe. i beleive the address of the Balboa Pier is 1 Balboa Pier, Newport beach, similar for the others, but....I'll come up with soemthing....

Im wondering if thats whats making the POI Loader choak.....

Did you correct the symbol problem for the entries? Using EPE, you need to save the file and reload to be certain the updates are in place. Doing an edit for a location with Extra Poi Editor does not update the file until you do a save, so the updates are not in the disk file until then.

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a_user wrote:
skunkape wrote:

Hey - just updated the thing - I KNOW i had put in addresses for a couple of the sites....Shroud Center, the El Toro COmmand Center, etc....how they disapppeared from the file, Im not sure...anyway, Those are back, all I realy need to put in an adddress for is the the 4 piers i believe. i beleive the address of the Balboa Pier is 1 Balboa Pier, Newport beach, similar for the others, but....I'll come up with soemthing....

Im wondering if thats whats making the POI Loader choak.....

Did you correct the symbol problem for the entries? Using EPE, you need to save the file and reload to be certain the updates are in place. Doing an edit for a location with Extra Poi Editor does not update the file until you do a save, so the updates are not in the disk file until then.

well, digging through the file now with the the Extra POI Editor..trying to figure out whats up with the symbols...

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ok,
I've gone through, double checked the symbol entries and i beleive i've fixed them all, and double checked the geocoded locations against my copy of Mapsource - the only one that looks off was Wild Rivers waterpark - I corrected that with info from mapsource cause it was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY off. Several of the locations actally ARE very close to City center...like the Santa Ana Zoo, the Surfing museum isnt at cuty center but IS very near the center pf "downtown" Huntington Beach...,,and one other point in santa ana is very close to the center of Santa Ana...

Of course eventally i WILL be out and about and get actyall readings at the locations i havent verified in person yet...

All that being said, something is still off in the file. Ive been editing this witn Extra POI editor...but garmin's POI loader still thinks is corrupt, as does mapsource, with no explanation...blah

Anyway, check the link again for the latest update...and feel free to help..or not...

Last Entry

Look at the longitude value in the very last entry (Knots Berry Farm).. there is a space between the minus symbol and the value 117.99716. Remove the space and it will load fine.

Use Notepad rather than Wordpad if you don't use something specifically for editing GPX files.

You can check for stuff like that (invalid XML) with a free program called XML Notepad from Microsoft. Do a Google search for it.

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Many editors can be made to display white space

When getting the corrupt file message, I use Microsoft Word to look at the file, and check the options to display spaces and tabs. It helps avoid this problem.

doh!

JD4x4 wrote:

Look at the longitude value in the very last entry (Knots Berry Farm).. there is a space between the minus symbol and the value 117.99716. Remove the space and it will load fine.

Use Notepad rather than Wordpad if you don't use something specifically for editing GPX files.

You can check for stuff like that (invalid XML) with a free program called XML Notepad from Microsoft. Do a Google search for it.

ironically
I just did that smile
same problem in the back bay science center entry smile
doh!

But it works now?

skunkape wrote:

ironically
I just did that smile
same problem in the back bay science center entry smile
doh!

hmm. In the file I dl'ed above, Back Bay is fine (no space) and when I corrected only the Knot's listing it loaded ok for me in POI Loader.

In any event, it's loading now for you, yes?
The XML style sheet wants lat & lon to be numeric, and with the space POI Loader's logic says it's a string and not a valid number value, fyi.

Always be careful that what you edit with writes the value & type that you & the software expects. Sometimes that means simply making sure you selected the correct save format & options (like in Word & Excel) but sometimes (like in Wordpad) it's more of a pain to make sure things like breaks & end of line chrs write the way you want. That's been my experience anyway.

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.

Something else...

Something else is strange to me. The header tells me this file has been edited with EPE, but the comment field is somewhat strange.

On some POI, there is no comment header but only a footer. Ex:

</cmt>

Normally, a comment would look like this:

<cmt>This is a comment</cmt>

Have you modified the file with another program?

Turbo

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turboccc wrote:

Something else is strange to me. The header tells me this file has been edited with EPE, but the comment field is somewhat strange.

On some POI, there is no comment header but only a footer. Ex:

</cmt>

Normally, a comment would look like this:

<cmt>This is a comment</cmt>

Have you modified the file with another program?

Turbo

Well, I DID edit one entry that had a space between the negative sign and the longitude - the cause of my problems....with MS's XML Notepad 2007.

Actually now that I think about it, the one i've uploaded here is the one I edited with XML Notepad.
The one lsited at the beginning of this thread,
at my personal website, www.goonybird.org, has not been touched with anything else....

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JD4x4 wrote:
skunkape wrote:

ironically
I just did that smile
same problem in the back bay science center entry smile
doh!

hmm. In the file I dl'ed above, Back Bay is fine (no space) and when I corrected only the Knot's listing it loaded ok for me in POI Loader.

In any event, it's loading now for you, yes?
The XML style sheet wants lat & lon to be numeric, and with the space POI Loader's logic says it's a string and not a valid number value, fyi.

Always be careful that what you edit with writes the value & type that you & the software expects. Sometimes that means simply making sure you selected the correct save format & options (like in Word & Excel) but sometimes (like in Wordpad) it's more of a pain to make sure things like breaks & end of line chrs write the way you want. That's been my experience anyway.

Loads fine for me. Im guessing i may have accidentally changed the Back Bay entry while i was tinkering with stuff....who knows....but it works for me....I updated the file here on POIfactory...

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/15901