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As the site grows, and the POI files with it. It may make sense to have ability to view POI files by state. Not real sure the most effective way to accomplish this but something to consider

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or better yet, have user

or better yet, have user selection. For instance have drop downs that apply to the below logic (this is very simple logic, not intented to be used for the code),

Select *
FROM PointOfInterest POI
JOIN State S
ON POI.IntStateId = S.IntStateId
JOIN Interest I
ON POI.IntInterestId = I.IntInterestId
Where S.StateAbbr = 'VA'
and (I.InterestDescr like '%Beer%'
or POI.Name like '%Beer%')
and POI.SourceDateTime > '2007/01/01'
-- Where the single quotes are the user's selection.

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I've been thinking....

Again, that's always dangerous.

I wasn't sure how to go about this effectively.

Start a new topic, or search and find some suitable heading/topic.

I just wanted to suggest a couple of things to perhaps enhance the site/user ease.

1). An area that users can submit/propose suggestions for the site (such as this proposal). Instead of creating a new topic.

2) How about putting the "Who's Online" > "Online Users" back where it's visible on each page instead of just the "Home" page. I sometimes use this list to check where people are from and which GPSr(s) they are using.
Also accessing this info from the online user list is sometimes more handy than finding their profile elsewhere. Most useful when answering specific unit questions and having multiple browser windows/tabs open researching an answer.

3) How about a user/member "tally". So we can "see" how rapidly this community is growing. I remember when there were significantly less than 956 pages in the user list...infact there have been 3 new members since I started this post. I'm guessing that this would be roughly a little over 19,000 users/members.

4) Why is it that when I read an unread post(actual thread) and then go back one page to get back to the unread posts list, I can't get back to the last thread. It always happens, I read a post or thread, go back to the unread list, then have a question about what I just read and can't get back to that particular thread by using the back button. I'm actually going back two pages.

I think that's all for now...we have to keep JM busy...right?

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A "Watch" List

How about being able to "watch" POI files. When a watched file changes, you could get an email notification.

Or watching POI files for key words, like (for me) "Oregon"?

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User Info

lsmonop wrote:

2) How about putting the "Who's Online" > "Online Users" back where it's visible on each page instead of just the "Home" page. I sometimes use this list to check where people are from and which GPSr(s) they are using.
Also accessing this info from the online user list is sometimes more handy than finding their profile elsewhere. Most useful when answering specific unit questions and having multiple browser windows/tabs open researching an answer.

Not sure of your request. Just selecting the user name in the post brings you to the screen that shows their location, unit, etc.

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Yeah,

I know this, but when I first joined here, I'd often check out who was on line, where from, type gpsr etc, while answering questions etc., (not necessarily that users specific question). Sort of like an introduction when a new user name was spotted. Since that info has been moved to the home page, I haven't been checking unless answering or commenting to a specific user. I've felt a bit disconnected, if that makes sense.

I could see user names and remember...oh, so and so is from Round Rock and yabba dabba do is from NY... It also helps me decide whether to type with a southern or yankee accent.

If replying to a specific post, of course what you say is the easiest way.

Not a big deal either way, the info is findable one way or another.

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Can I suggest....

I hope I’m not being out of line by suggesting that this community consider maintaining future POI files in GPX format (Xml Document) rather than CSV format. Xml technology has been the de facto standard when it comes to document exchange/management for the past several years simply because it has significantly more benefits over CSV format.

With Xml, you can easily enforce/validate its data structure. You can also specify if a field is optional/required, can occur multiple times, specify a set of valid values, etc.; thereby eliminating the need to run it through a custom-written validator (no offense to RetiredTechnician’s valuable contribution). How is this done? Notice the schema keyword that points to *.xsd? An Xml schema is a ‘blueprint’ of the Xml document that references it. And with a simple XSLT, you can easily extract out desired POIs by states (or by any fields). XSLT also can easily convert the Xml document to a CSV format for backward compatibility.

You can maintain these files with an Xml editor. There are many freeware editors available such as http://www.xmlcooktop.com/ and http://symbolclick.com/. I personally recommend http://www.altova.com/products/authentic/xml_db_form_editor.... as I have been using their commercial product, Altova Mission Kit Enterprise, for many years and consider their products as best in the industry.

Of course, you can always use Notepad as they are just text files like CSV…

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GPX Format

We will be changing to the way we do our metro databases and you will get to choose how you download the file. We have been having meetings about how to make this a reality and how to organize it so that it is easily maintainable.

Miss Poi

I understand. Here is another workaround

lsmonop wrote:

I know this, but when I first joined here, I'd often check out who was on line, where from, type gpsr etc, while answering questions etc., (not necessarily that users specific question). Sort of like an introduction when a new user name was spotted. Since that info has been moved to the home page, I haven't been checking unless answering or commenting to a specific user. I've felt a bit disconnected, if that makes sense.

I could see user names and remember...oh, so and so is from Round Rock and yabba dabba do is from NY... It also helps me decide whether to type with a southern or yankee accent.

I understand. Here is another workaround: In either IE or Firefox, open another tab addressed to this website. Then you can click between the home page and the page you are working on. I do this when I am responding to postings and need to do a search on the website for some information and/or to search posted POIs. A little kludgy, but it works for me and has additional flexibility.

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I disagree, keep csv

theTraveler wrote:

I hope I’m not being out of line by suggesting that this community consider maintaining future POI files in GPX format (Xml Document) rather than CSV format.

I disagree. POI Factory now has the best of both worlds, gpx AND csv. Like everything else, there are advantages and disadvantages to both; csv files can be created by most anyone, can be modified to correct for nuvi 350/360 linebreaks, has comprehensive instructions in POI Loader for creating, very easy to edit if a coordinate error is found, can be easily divided into separate state files ... and the list goes on. If you "gotta have" a gpx, several conversion programs are available. And if you don't think a gpx can be screwed up, just wait ... somebody will find a way!

RT

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exactly

As stated in your last sentence:

A little kludgy, but it works for me and has additional flexibility.

I'm familiar with the work-arounds, other tabs, other windows, search user names, search period. I'm not looking for work-arounds. Just merely asking if it's possible to put back what was once there, and giving a reason that I use it for. Actually, right now typing this there is a big blank space to the right just yearning to be utilized.

There are times I have the Reply window open, then a tab to garmin manuals to answer a question, then another to do a search (within poi factory) for specific reference

Basically, for me it's been out of sight out of mind and if that's the case, why even have it at all? What's it used for? What's it's purpose? The only time I visit the home page is to look to see who's online. Normally, I get here by a page I have bookmarked, which is not the home page, then log in and start reading my unread posts.

Maybe a compromise and have it on the home page and the reply page.

On a side note, there are now 959 pages of users. A few hours ago it was 956.

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........Garmin StreetPilot c550 / Nüvi 765...........

who's online

The who's online block now shows on all pages.

This was an easy fix - I had disabled it back when we overloaded the old server, and it never was fully put back. (Sorry about that.)

JM

Great

Thanks a bunch JM

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........Garmin StreetPilot c550 / Nüvi 765...........

Back at my regular computer now...

Miss POI and I are always happy to receive suggestions and feedback. Lots of good ideas in this thread; always easier to read on a full size screen smile

Let me respond to a few points that have current solutions or work-arounds:

Submitting suggestions -- this can also be done via the contact form (click about/contact near the tabs at the top of the screen).

Who's online -- it's back smile

User/Member tally -- as a work-around, you can point at user names in the who's online area and see the user ID number in the link URL. These are assigned sequentially. New ones seem to be around 21300 right now. (This trick only works when you're logged into the site.)

Recently, I've been building some behind-the-scenes functionality to make things work better for Miss poi. Improvements for managing / organizing POIs are also high on the list.

JM

We can still support both

retiredtechnician wrote:

If you "gotta have" a gpx, several conversion programs are available. And if you don't think a gpx can be screwed up, just wait ... somebody will find a way!

You're missing my point. We can still support both, but instead of having to maintain some in CSV and GPX in another we should maintain in one format and generate other formats from it. This is the best practice for maintaining any kind of repository. And the best practice dictates the 'system of records' be in a most robust format because it is significantly easier to generate simpler formats from it (and almost impossible to go the other way in most situations).

That being said, the ultimate method to maintain POIs is via database and I would love to see this happen. Then one can select desired POIs and have it generated to preferred format. However, if this is not possible then the next logical choice is Xml. Why? Xml was created out of a need for exchanging data structure between disparate platforms, because it is impossible to do with native database format (e.g. SQL and Oracle). Actually, all major database technologies support Xml natively for exporting/importing data because of field data typing capability. In addition, Xml supports data manupilation like sorting and direct access to each field for read and writes (via XPath statements). IT IS essentially a database in text format.

Also, I know GPX (which is an Xml document) can be screwed up. I never said it couldn't. I said Xml has a built-in support for validation. You do not have that with CSV and thus someone has to write a custom validator.

This is a great site and community. I only suggested it because I'd like to see this site/community become THE best POI site. I wasn't suggesting it because I "gotta have" as I can do the conversion in my sleep.

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POI Database

theTraveler wrote:

. . . . That being said, the ultimate method to maintain POIs is via database and I would love to see this happen. Then one can select desired POIs and have it generated to preferred format . . . .

The beginnings of this are actually in place. New "files" that are being collaboratively maintained for metro areas are actually stored as separate location records that are updated via a web form. Current output choices are GPX and several varieties of CSV. The site still needs import routines to bring in data from uploaded files.

Looking ahead, I'd also love to add a flexible way for users to create new "POI Collections" by selecting locations that are already in the database. This way POI details can be maintained in one place but dynamically included in several different collections.

JM