Phoenix Cameras...More Than Red Lights and Speeding!

Well those are all things that are against the law/code. Now when they start ticketing you for paying attention to your driving then I might get upset.

If it's just a question of budget shortfall, why not examine the picture for a companion and then check that person against the driver's license picture of the wife/husband of the driver. In case of a mismatch, a letter in a plain brown envelope should then take care of any State budget shortfalls. At least that gives some advantage to the few singles left out there. Of course they are the only ones financially able to make the suggested contribution that will be unreasonably high.

They are not including infants in the front seat and unwashed vehicles with the "wash Me" scribbled in the dust.

Or people driving uninsured cars, or cars currently being used to commit other crimes!

When enough people make a political issue of it - vote against those who support this kind of taxation, & it is taxation, then balance will be returned.

Until them, rely on your Redlight & Speed Camera info & obey the law.

Fred

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Well those are all things that are against the law/code. Now when they start ticketing you for paying attention to your driving then I might get upset.

Sounds more like BIG BROTHER at work.

Not only that, a friend told me the other day he got ticketed for 'attempted' jay walking. I put 'attempted' there because he didn't actually jay walk.

What happened was he took 1 step forward, on the crosswalk, and realized that the light hasn't turned to "WALK", stepped right back on the curb. A few seconds later, the light turned to allow pedestrian to cross. A cop saw the whole thing and wrote him a jay walking citation. It's a stinkin' $300 ticket if I remember correctly.

Watch out!

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Not only that, a friend told me the other day he got ticketed for 'attempted' jay walking. I put 'attempted' there because he didn't actually jay walk.

What happened was he took 1 step forward, on the crosswalk, and realized that the light hasn't turned to "WALK", stepped right back on the curb. A few seconds later, the light turned to allow pedestrian to cross. A cop saw the whole thing and wrote him a jay walking citation. It's a stinkin' $300 ticket if I remember correctly.

Watch out![/quote]

Maybe we need Jay Walking cameras? Thankfully, your friend avoided the lesser included charge of "conspiracy to commit jay-walking".

Note to self. Don't move to Phoenix!

Good afternoon, folks,

Phoenix isn't the start, and it sure won't be the end. I believe that as long as you make a conscious effort to obey the law (rules) you've got little to worry about, cams or not.

Miki

Its not the start of this, indeed. Red light cameras are a rare case - they didnt origionate in california, but Florida. It Will indeed get worse before it gets better.

The number of mobile units has increased dramatically in the Tucson area in the last couple weeks.

FYI, I was driving by one the other day, doing exactly the posted speed but for some stupid reason I elected to give the radar vehicle the "international first birthday salute" and since there turned out to be a person inside the radar vehicle, he decided to take my picture....

funny, stupid, not funny or mostly just sad?

LM

I have no sympathy for someone that violates the law and gets caught by law enforcement personnel, but that is where law enforcement should be handled in the hands of law enforcement personnel and not a private company that is in the business for a profit.

the site that posts daily mobile radar locations in Arizona now shows "no data available" for Tucson "for public safety reasons"........figure that one out

Now I find that extremely funny and real stupid on your part. Sad... not at all, very disrespectful you bet!

Now, if they can just determine if a van with the windows painted has 30 illegals inside, we can do away with the border patrol.

The speed now where they ticket you is 11 miles over the speed limit. I was caught six days before they changed it from 10, which is what I was doing. Cost me $180 for the extra mile. But, I used to have a lead foot so these gadgets have made me slow down.

Are photos available to the general public? Could a concerned citizen review them for public vehicles? Are they ticketed equally?

Sounds like a joke to me!

There's no way the cameras have enough resolution to detect cracks on windshields as they drive at speed. Sounds mighty ambitious for whatever camera at work.

Can you provide a link to that page? The map showing locations of stationary cameras is simple to find but I'm not having any luck locating a page posted daily with assignments for mobile vans.

I secont that...I can't find it either.

Try: radarrover.com
BTW..Tucson mobile daily positions are now back on line at this site

Scottsdale
Scottsdale 10300 N. Scottsdale Rd (s/b) --- 06:30 AM - 09:45 AM
Scottsdale 11500 N. Hayden Rd (s/b) --- 10:45 AM - 02:00 PM
Scottsdale 7900 N. Scottsdale Rd (s/b) --- No time listed
Scottsdale 3100 N. Hayden Rd (n/b) --- 06:30 AM - 09:45 AM
Scottsdale 8100 Osborn (e/b) --- 10:45 AM - 02:00 PM
Scottsdale 7661 E. Chaparral Rd (e/b) --- No time listed
Scottsdale 4200 N. Scottsdale Rd (n/b) --- 06:30 AM - 09:45 AM
Scottsdale 3600 N. Drinkwater Blvd (n/b) --- 10:45 AM - 02:00 PM
Scottsdale 4100 N. Miller Rd (s/b) --- No time listed
Scottsdale 7600 E. McDowell Rd (w/b) --- 04:00 PM - 07:15 PM
Scottsdale 2700 N. Scottsdale Rd (s/b) --- 08:15 PM - 11:30 PM
Scottsdale 7737 E. Chaparral Rd (e/b) --- No time listed
Scottsdale 7500 E. Mountain View Rd (e/b) --- 04:00 PM - 07:15 PM
Scottsdale 7900 E. Mountain View Rd (w/b) --- 08:15 PM - 11:30 PM
Scottsdale 8300 E. Mountain View Rd (w/b) --- No time listed

Extracted from radarrover website

Do the Speed cameras make a radar detector go off?

I'd guess radar is used so it should be detectable.

I can think of three possible alternate technologies: Laser (require aiming); buried wires; transponders (or On-star).

I don't claim these are used; just possible.

I second that!

I googled Phoenix to see why they need the money so badly, and this is what I found.

Everybody seemed to benefit as metropolitan Phoenix swelled from 1 million people in 1955 to 6.5 million today.

One reason the current housing collapse has been so brutal in Phoenix is how suddenly that pattern broke down. In only a couple of years,he breakdown trapped people in unfinished communities much like a fast-moving landslide buries people in their tracks.

Digging into the rubble of Phoenix's latest real-estate collapse, the damage is clearest in edge developments, areas where home values have fallen the most and foreclosures are highest. Homeowners on half-empty blocks feel stranded and frustrated. Down unfinished roads, the empty corners, vacant strip malls and stalled school projects suggest the ghost of a community that buyers counted on.

read more:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/...

Don't forget the eye in the sky!

I visit my parents in PHX on ocassion, and yeah, it's amazing how many speed and red light cameras I've seen there.

Funny thought, though. For GPS traffic to really work well, you would almost need each car reporting it's position and speed real-time, then there's another way to get you! So would it lead to a choice of traffic reporting, or big brother?

I guess they could also put sensors along all the roads that track traffic anonamously? (Sp?)

Right! I also forgot the tracking bug inserted behind my ear by aliens.

Tell the truth it is more like a 20ft satellite dish in the form of a Cartman anaaaaaaanever mind.