Always Have a Back-Up Plan

 

This last weekend my wife and I went up to Northern Wisconsin from Chicago for a long weekend get away. I was using our 6-month old Garmin 765T as the navigation device to get us up there, planning to spend some time in Milwaukee and then head North to do some sightseeing and fishing, then stopping in several small towns on the way back. The Nuvi worked great on the first leg of our trip and brought us right to all our destinations.

When we left Milwaukee and headed north, I put the Nuvi in its cradle to power it up for navigation to our next stop, there was no power going to the unit and I had to power it on manually and use it on battery. After I tried everything I could think of to trouble-shoot the problem, I figured out that there was a short in the wire up by the cradle, just behind the connector. If we held the wire in just the right position, the unit would get power, but as soon as it moved just the slightest, I would get the power disconnect message and have to run it on battery. Since it was impossible to hold the wire in the exact position to power the unit while driving, the power cord was useless, and we had to rely on the battery which only lasted about an hour or so.

In order to save battery power, I would put the destination for our next stop into the Nuvi, and write down the directions on a piece of paper, then turn it off to save the battery power. We pretty much did this for the rest of the trip until the battery went totally dead. Then I had to rely on an old map which I had in the car and also asked for directions in the towns we stopped in. And, being up in Northern Wisconsin, there was no was to place to stop and get a new cable. Yes, we got to where we wanted to go, but the aggravation of it all really put a damper on our trip, especially having a really good GPS unit with you and not being able to use it.

I guess the lesson I learned and want to share, is always have a back-up plan in case your GPS goes out or looses its power source like mine did when far from home. I have an AC power adapter for our Nuvi as well as the USB cord that would also charge it, but never thought to bring them along, not thinking I would need them. If I had brought them, I could have stopped from time to time and recharged the unit which would have saved us a lot of time and aggravation. The AC power cords are only $16.59 on Amazon and are well worth the price as a back-up just in case your DC power cord malfunctions. I will also be putting a new road atlas in the car as another back-up too.

I called Garmin the first thing this morning and explained the problem to the tech. support person who was very nice and helpful. They will be sending me out a new GTM-20 power cord at no charge since my unit is still under warranty.

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Nuvi 765T, Nuvi 2350LMT

Paper Maps

We still use maps frequently. On trips, if I do not have a current map of the stater where we are traveling, then I stop at the Rest Area to get one.

Thank You!

Thank You! I agree and it seems GPSrs run fine in your home city but when we are out of town, in unknown places, they ditch us. I had been in Pennsylvania and was looking for Longwood Gardens. Guess what, The GPSr took me all the way in the Philadelphia city, where there was no Garden at all. At the end, I got WiFi and connected laptop to get the address, entered it manually and reached at the destination. A friend of mine has older Garmin and he still has correct address for Longwood Gardens.

Lesson learned: I agree that before driving your vehicle, understand your route ahead, just in case something goes wrong!!!

Thank You!

Use AC in the car

I don't mess with the 12v automotive power cords at all. Instead, I have the kind of DC to AC power inverter that plugs into the vehicle's cigarette lighter. It allows me to use the regular 110 v. power/charger cords.

The inverter I use is 125 amps and provides enough power to charge (one at a time) my cell phone, laptop, mp3 player, etc. I'm sure it would work to keep a GPSr powered up, too. I think I paid $40 for mine at a truck stop.

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"The true measure of persons is how they treat someone who can do them absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson

Thanks

Thanks for the tip. I will purchase and carry and extra cord.

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Beechcreek

AC in the car

ntwajumela wrote:

I don't mess with the 12v automotive power cords at all. Instead, I have the kind of DC to AC power inverter that plugs into the vehicle's cigarette lighter. It allows me to use the regular 110 v. power/charger cords.

The inverter I use is 125 amps and provides enough power to charge (one at a time) my cell phone, laptop, mp3 player, etc. I'm sure it would work to keep a GPSr powered up, too. I think I paid $40 for mine at a truck stop.

You sure about the 125 amps? That's more then the service to a lot of the older homes. I have a 400 watt inverter that translates to about 3.33 amps at 120 volts.

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Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

Amps. Watts. Meh.

Don B wrote:
ntwajumela wrote:

I don't mess with the 12v automotive power cords at all. Instead, I have the kind of DC to AC power inverter that plugs into the vehicle's cigarette lighter. It allows me to use the regular 110 v. power/charger cords.

The inverter I use is 125 amps and provides enough power to charge (one at a time) my cell phone, laptop, mp3 player, etc. I'm sure it would work to keep a GPSr powered up, too. I think I paid $40 for mine at a truck stop.

You sure about the 125 amps? That's more then the service to a lot of the older homes. I have a 400 watt inverter that translates to about 3.33 amps at 120 volts.

You're right. redface My bad. I went out to the car and looked at the unit. It's stamped "125 watts", not amps.

Electricity idea = "juju magic bwana" in my world. Because of people like me, electricians can put their kids through college.

Ask me something about 17th century Russian literature. Go on, ask me! wink

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"The true measure of persons is how they treat someone who can do them absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson

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I carry a spare (cheap)GPS with me,older unit,would work in an emergency to get you at least someplace familiar. and a road map.

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Garmin nuvi 350 Lifetime Map Updates NT 2018.10

The original poster is

The original poster is correct. My Nuvi 760 wouldn't turn on the other night, it was like the battery was completely dead, and I headed home without it. Luckily it was nearby traveling, but if I was out in an area I didn't know, I'd be in trouble.

I got it fixed when I got home, but if I was relying on it solely, I'd have been in trouble. Lesson Learned.

Excellent advice

I carry a road atlas in the car with me for just this reason. I will probably go and get the latest version after reading this post.

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Nuvi 3597 LMT

back up plan

I recently bought an Acura RDX which has a built in GPS. Nonetheless whenever I travel I still take my Nuvi 760 with as well. It has much better traffic and poi files than the built in version.

Sounds like the best thing to do..

daman wrote:

I carry a spare (cheap)GPS with me,older unit,would work in an emergency to get you at least someplace familiar. and a road map.

No question...

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Matt

I always print maps when travelling out of town...

and bring my 6 yrs old navman gps with me in case.

Road Atlas

In the seat Pocket is actually is actually the best place for a road atlas,then you will have the best backup.

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Using Android Based GPS.The above post and my sig reflects my own opinions, expressed for the purpose of informing or inspiring, not commanding. Naturally, you are free to reject or embrace whatever you read.

Extra GPS

When I'm on a trip I always have a little geocaching planned so I have my 76CSx along. It works quite well for routing and has CN installed. If the nüvi should (nooooooooooooooooooooooooo) go down for some reason I'd still have the 76CSx.

Maps are great but I can't SEE the dang things. My wife can see them but I need glasses and a magnifying glass for some of that stuff. Bah.

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GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

In a pinch, you can also

In a pinch, you can also recharge from the USB port. That's assuming you have a computer handy or a USB-to-AC adapter.

I still carry a map with me

I still carry a map with me just in case, and yes I do agree on having the AC power as a backup, you just never know when you'll need it.

Another Backup

I use a motorola phone and have the cigarette lighter mini-usb charger for that in the car.
It will work for the gps and if you have the phone wall charger that works also.
That's if you get to a room or a place to stay with electricity.

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A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. - Herm Albright

Another back-up alternative

If you take your 110 wall charger as a backup, and buy an inexpensive cigarette lighter "inverter" (Radio Shack, Walmart, Sam's, etc.) you can charge your GPS in your car while you're driving -- rather than waiting to get to a 110 charging source such as your hotel, etc. Will work while driving just like your charger. We also do that with our cell phones just in case. smile

Nothing for Me

I don't worry about backup. If my Nuvi craps out on me I'll simply pick up a map at the nearest store. Unless I'm in a bad neighborhood in which case I'd be afraid to get out of my car. Hmmm, maybe we should make a bad neighborhood POI file!

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GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

Hmmm, maybe we should make a bad neighborhood POI file!

What good will it do if your Nuvi craps out grin

Hmmm....

I just navigate by instinct when this happens.

Backup

When we travel I always take a laptop with Streets & Trips, and MapSource on it.

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Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

My road trip backups

I keep a spare mobile and wall charger and a generic USB wall charger that has a standard USB connector on it. Lets me plug either the Garmin, my cell phone or my iPOD USB cables into it. A $20 power inverter lets us charge or run anything while on the run. I had a cradle break once so I have a spare cradle, too. It all fits into a small box in the trunk which also has a couple road flares, fire extinguisher and some other road emergency items, etc.

I always take my laptop with cellular broadband card and a co-pilot with a Road Atlas. grin

Back-up for the back-up

Murphy's Law covers these posts pretty well. When on the road travelling I rely on my AAA/CAA maps as backup. This offers two functions, first the AAA/CAA is great in emergencies (see POI file) and second, the AAA/CAA maps are ALWAYS up-to-date. I also pick up a tour book and toss it in the trunk as a secondary source for accn and meals. (Interestingly I use the maps before the trip to find those areas that appear interesting to travel as the maps show some terrain detail!)

Primary back-up is the inverter which BTW keeps my camera and laptop fully charged - also use it for my airmattress when camping but that's another story!

Hands free cell is hard wired so no problem but again the inverter works as its backup.

Bottom line is always have a low tech solution when all elsse fails. (I guess I'm over-cautious since I also carry a compass and matches, but then again never been lost!)

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Tom

Totally agree

After my battery drained on me a year ago in San Francisco and I wasn't able to use my Nuvi 760 with the car charger. I ended up using a blackberry to assist my navigation.

Backups?

You don't need backups. The first rule of traveling is that you take half of the clothes and gadgets that you think you need. and twice as much money that you anticipate needing. At the nearest Walmart or Costco you replace the offending item and then after it serves its purpose, save it for a Christmas present.

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nuvi 785 nuvi 350, nuvi 270, GTM 20, jag in dash, mercedes in dash.

Backups?

Great comment but how do I find the nearest Walmart or Costco?

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Tom

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^^Right,when your lost,lol

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Garmin nuvi 350 Lifetime Map Updates NT 2018.10

send the wife

Simple. you send the wife out to ask directions. If she's not with you, you never got lost in the first place.

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nuvi 785 nuvi 350, nuvi 270, GTM 20, jag in dash, mercedes in dash.

AAA

Jim from Texas wrote:

If you take your 110 wall charger as a backup, and buy an inexpensive cigarette lighter "inverter" (Radio Shack, Walmart, Sam's, etc.) you can charge your GPS in your car while you're driving -- rather than waiting to get to a 110 charging source such as your hotel, etc. Will work while driving just like your charger. We also do that with our cell phones just in case. smile

I like that idea. I will get the extra cord. but I still take my AAA maps just in case.

check this one

This is the one i use, good for the laptop,gps, or anything else you need mobile power for.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=...

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Jerry...Jacksonville,Fl Nüvi1450,Nuvi650,Nuvi 2495 and Mapsource.

Great when they work

I agree these units are all great when they work, and up to now niether my TomTom nor Kenwood have let me down, but I learned my lesson using a Laptop and Garmin eTrex before, so now we always have the trusty Rand Mcnally maps in the car whenever we go out of town

Thanks.

Good advice - thanks.

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RKF (Brookeville, MD) Garmin Nuvi 660, 360 & Street Pilot

Thanks for the great advice.

Thanks for the great advice.

iQue M5

I still take my old iQue M5 and cradle with me on any trip requiring lots of driving....just in case!

A non-powered backup is probably best...

I'm reminded of this as I sit in a hotel room in Newport News, VA. A few months ago, a colleague and I were here for a client meeting, and I thought I was all set with my trusty 200W. Little did I know that the power outlet on my rental car was disabled, the battery on my Garmin run down, and we'd be without proper guidance just when we needed it the most.

To make a long story short, we tried to find a restaurant in downtown Norfolk to have dinner and took the road as far as the GPS had power, relying on what we thought would take us the rest of the way. We got hopelessly lost, and after about an hour of driving around (nothing else better to do we figured), gave up and headed back to a restaurant only 5 minutes from the hotel in which we started the evening.

So now I happily take the complimentary map offered by the rental car companies, even as I'm powering up my GPS at the counter.

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NEOhioGuy - Garmin 2639, MIO Knight Rider, TomTom (in Subaru Legacy), Nuvi 55, DriveSmart 51, Apple CarPlay maps

I can see what your saying, but a map is safer

alexanderrg wrote:

You don't need backups. The first rule of traveling is that you take half of the clothes and gadgets that you think you need. and twice as much money that you anticipate needing. At the nearest Walmart or Costco you replace the offending item and then after it serves its purpose, save it for a Christmas present.

What if your in Montana, good luck with finding either! Hell your lucky to find people. I guess there are a few more states just like it out west.

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Using Android Based GPS.The above post and my sig reflects my own opinions, expressed for the purpose of informing or inspiring, not commanding. Naturally, you are free to reject or embrace whatever you read.

My backup plan...

...is to make sure the reverse gear is in working order. wink

Seriously, I've had two GPSr's for a while, so I should be set. My 750 no longer keeps charge, so I'd know right away if the cable craps out.

Once before my GPS days, I had to walk into a hotel lobby and say, "Help! I'm a silly, ignorant, American tourist who took a wrong turn."

After the reply of "You're lost, eh?" I got a good direction from a very helpful clerk. mrgreen

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nüvi 750 & 760

We do Too

zierk0310 wrote:

I agree these units are all great when they work, and up to now niether my TomTom nor Kenwood have let me down, but I learned my lesson using a Laptop and Garmin eTrex before, so now we always have the trusty Rand Mcnally maps in the car whenever we go out of town

We carry a map with us also, just in case, you need a back up.

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No matter where you are "Life is Worth Living".

How about one of these $19.95 portable battery chargers?

Looks like this would be useful and it's pretty cheap. It uses 4 standard AA batteries.

http://www.gomadic.com/garmin-nuvi-200w-portable-aa-battery-...

This would be useful to many, I would think.

NEOhioGuy wrote:

I'm reminded of this as I sit in a hotel room in Newport News, VA. A few months ago, a colleague and I were here for a client meeting, and I thought I was all set with my trusty 200W. Little did I know that the power outlet on my rental car was disabled, the battery on my Garmin run down, and we'd be without proper guidance just when we needed it the most.

To make a long story short, we tried to find a restaurant in downtown Norfolk to have dinner and took the road as far as the GPS had power, relying on what we thought would take us the rest of the way. We got hopelessly lost, and after about an hour of driving around (nothing else better to do we figured), gave up and headed back to a restaurant only 5 minutes from the hotel in which we started the evening.

So now I happily take the complimentary map offered by the rental car companies, even as I'm powering up my GPS at the counter.

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Matt

Aren't we all spoiled?

Most of you make it sound like we can't get anywhere without a GPS. In the late 90s, the company I worked for occasionally sent me out of town/state. I was able to get around town that I'd never been before, in a rental car without a GPS device. I relied heavily on Yahoo map. Google? What's Google? No one knew Google back then.

I'm kind of puzzled when I think about how I did it. IIRC I got directions from Yahoo map ahead of time. The 3 important places are airport, office and hotel. Printed turn by turn directions on paper. I recall driving around at night in downtown Seattle and Portland without a map. I was able to come back to the hotel (by instinct). If birds can do it, so can I.

lifesaving

Actually having the GPS could be lifesaving. Without one, you could make a wrong turn in the mountains, go into wrong and unfamiliar territory and get snowed in with disastrous consequences. Having the GPS would keep you on the right road, and always remove any ambiguity. [As many techies here in SF know, this is not just theoretical]

AA battery chargers.

Mattb wrote:

Looks like this would be useful and it's pretty cheap. It uses 4 standard AA batteries.

http://www.gomadic.com/garmin-nuvi-200w-portable-aa-battery-...

This would be useful to many, I would think.

Yes, I'm thinking of getting one of those, or the iGo charger equivalent. There was a post in a thread I was in earlier that stated the Gomadic tip allowed full use while charging, whereas the iGo didn't - but I have no way of verifying that. Either way the changeable tips make them very versatile.

agree - always have a backup

I went on a trip a year ago to visit a relative (I flew in), and we took her car across state to visit other relatives. Alas, got in her car and there was no power to the electrical outlets, and my 2720 must have power, no battery.

Always have Plan B!!

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___________________ Garmin 2455, 855, Oregon 550t

Montana

BobDee wrote:
alexanderrg wrote:

You don't need backups. The first rule of traveling is that you take half of the clothes and gadgets that you think you need. and twice as much money that you anticipate needing. At the nearest Walmart or Costco you replace the offending item and then after it serves its purpose, save it for a Christmas present.

What if your in Montana, good luck with finding either! Hell your lucky to find people. I guess there are a few more states just like it out west.

I've been to both Walmart and Costco while in Montana........ Granted they aren't everywhere but they ARE there. smile

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GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

Uphill, both ways!

/begin geezer mode/
Back in my road warrior days, I spent an entire evening unsuccessfully trying to find a particular restaurant in Raleigh, NC, when it dawned on me that I was following Tallahassee, FL directions in my head.

Of course, that was back in the days when you could stop at any corner service station and the uniformed attendant was delighted to bring one of the oil company's completely free road maps out to your car.
/end geezer mode/

I used my GPS this morning to guide me into a unfamiliar rabbit warren of medical and dental offices. Um...and out again.

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"The true measure of persons is how they treat someone who can do them absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson

USB cable

I have been looking for a usb cable to power my garmin 670 from a power pack and I am unable to find a cable. When I plug the cable goes strait to storage mode. I have usbs but none of them takes the gps to charge form a usb from the laptop or the power pack.

With a power pack (Rechargeable AA batteries 1200mh ) and a usb cable you can extend the use of the gps any where.

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Gps! ask where to go and get there! Best of all, what we need is to have accurate pois to reach all destinations

Hey Bob

BobDee wrote:

What if your in Montana, good luck with finding either! Hell your lucky to find people. I guess there are a few more states just like it out west.

You think people in Montana are sparse? They put up fences along the northern border of Colorado to keep all the nothingness of Wyoming out.

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ɐ‾nsǝɹ Just one click away from the end of the Internet

Whatever you do...

You must respect the man code and not ask anyone for directions. If you keep driving, you eventually will see some landmark you recognize or an ocean.