Speed limit in canada

 
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As far as I can tell, the 2010 maps do not include speed limit information for Canada. I ran my GPS in simulation mode on several major roads and highways in Canada (mostly in the southeast) and no speed limit was indicated by my nuvi 205W. In fact, I even ran it across the border and as soon as it crossed into Canada, the speed limit sign on the left disappeared.

speed limit

Does the speed limit indicator only come on when you've exceeded a speed or is it supposed to be on all the time?

speed limit indicator

On my 765t, the speed limit shows at all times, as long as it's available for the road you are on.

Speed limit in Canada

Does anyone out there know why speed limits are not available in Canada??? I used my new NUVI 750 all winter in Florida and found the speed limits very useful. But as soon as I crossed the Border (at the Thousand Island bridge in Ontario), the speed limit icon disappeared. What is different about Canada that the speed limits don't show??? Does someone at Garmin think that we don't care enough about speed limits here in Canada???

Maybe it doesn't do

JGLabelle wrote:

Does anyone out there know why speed limits are not available in Canada??? I used my new NUVI 750 all winter in Florida and found the speed limits very useful. But as soon as I crossed the Border (at the Thousand Island bridge in Ontario), the speed limit icon disappeared. What is different about Canada that the speed limits don't show??? Does someone at Garmin think that we don't care enough about speed limits here in Canada???

Maybe it doesn't do kilometers. In all seriousness it probably has to do with the availability of the data. If the various ministries don't make the data available for download, then the roads would have to be manually surveyed and the data entered during a drive test. A very expensive proposition.

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Kilometers

I know you were kidding, but just in case some people in the US believe that Garmin would not do kilometers on speed limit, I have tested it. On my trip back to Canada, I switched the Garmin to kilometers and the speed limit was converted from mph to kmph. This was very useful in fact because my car (bought in Canada) shows kms numbers much bigger than mph numbers on the speedometer.

Speed Limits

I really liked the ability to see the speed limits on my Nuvi 750 for my 20,000 miles of RV travel in the US over the last 16 months and miss having that feature when I return home to Canada. Hopefully, we will have that ability in a not too distant future map update (I have the 2010 maps now and they don’t have speed limits for Canada). I suspect that the speed limit data might have to be gathered by driving all the roads with a data logger and that strikes me as a humongous task for all of Canada and the US, yet almost all the roads large and small that we have been on in the US do have speed limits shown for them (2009 maps). Having worked for a Highway Department and been involved with establishing speed limits, I doubt if the existing jurisdictional records would be suitable for transfer into a form that could be used in GPS mapping and it would be such a very large job to translate the data into such a form that I suspect data logging would be more efficient. However, when I retired 7 years ago, my agency was already field recording more and more road furniture (signs etc) with geo-coordinates so maybe this information is now available from some Canadian jurisdictions.

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no speed limit in Canada

On my 765t with maps 2010.10 I haven't seen speed limit here in Canada yet, but I tried simulated route in US, and it was showing speed limit in kilometres on my nuvi.

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Speed limit - response from Garmin

This is the response I got from Garmin today. I will follow their suggestion and fill an error report. Maybe if we all do this, we will get the speed limit feature in Canada faster!!!

GARMIN'S RESPONSE:
Thank you for contacting Garmin International. It appears to be alimitation in the mapping data. The highways in Canada simply do nothave the data coded in the mapping at this time. I apologize for anyinconvenience. I have tested several devices this morning with several different versions of mapping. The speed limit information for the screen overlay is usually updated with mapping updates, so it would probably be a good idea to fill out anerror report on the issue. I have filled out a separate internal formto have this situation looked at. I apologize for any inconvenience. Garmin's goal is to provide our customers with the most accurate mapping programs possible. If you do find any errors, omissions or discrepanciesin our mapping programs, we urge you to fill out an "Error Report Form". The form is evaluated, then if necessary, sent to the appropriate data vendor to investigate and correct for the next mapping update. Our mapping programs are updated every 3-4 months. The following linksdirect you to "Error Report Forms": http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/errorForm.html http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/errorForm.jsp

I believe this has to be a

I believe this has to be a map overlay problem because it seems that when you start a trip with numerous highway changes and many differentiating speed limits, the nuvi can calculate within a minute of your arrival time at the destination of choice. In my estimation, if it can do the above, it must be aware of the different speeds limits on the roads you must travel on your route. An oversight by the Garmin cartographic section seems to me is the most likely culprit here.

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The routing algorithm uses

The routing algorithm uses the road type to determine the speed and time of arrival. National highways, limited access, etc, and uses a generic speed setting for each type of highway.

The speed limit display uses actual speed data coded to that section of road. There are also lots of roads that no speed limit display is shown, because the data isn't there.

If the unit were displaying the generic speed limit for the road type, it would often be wrong. There is a difference between road type/speed and the actual road/speed.

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Good point Phranc. You're

Good point Phranc. You're right. I started putting my mind in gear after writing my first comments and more or less came to the same conclusion. Still, it's a map problem and not necessarily because the data doesn't exist in Canada.

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That's true, and it all

That's true, and it all becomes a matter of whether or not Garmin wishes to spend the money to add the speed data base to the map software for Canada. Cost vs benefit.

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I submitted a ticket to Garmin

I submitted the ticket to let them know it is an issue. (at least it is with me)

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I did the same thing.

I did the same thing.

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Speed data in Canada

It is just a little bit offensive to us Canuks to suggest that we are not worth spending the money on as we pay more for our Garmin maps than the Americans do (exchange rate) and our provinces are huge compared to their states. All of our highways have posted limits and we don't have near as many highways to deal with. Just another rip off for the Canadian consumer..I compare it to the treatment we get using Tivo as an example.

I did not intend to imply

I did not intend to imply that Canadians weren't worth spending the money on. If it came across that way, I apologize.

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This is what I received from

This is what I received from Garmin regarding the speed limit signs in Canada.

Thanks. That depends much on the data vendor. My hunch is it may be in
the works, but that IS just a guess. I will forward the
feedback/request along to the developers here. I can at least do that.

Thank you again for your interest in Garmin GPS.
http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/

Best regards,
Loy

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The speed limit data _is_

The speed limit data _is_ available in Canada, just not on Garmins. I tested a TomTom 330XL a whiles back and it had speed limit data for a route near me, which is _not_ a freeway, although it is a fairly major road, and the limit was accurate - including changed limits along the road.

The data is available, Garmin/Navteq just need to incorporate it.

It would be a handy feature

It would be a handy feature for us in Canada, but small market share to garmin so...

I sent in my ticket

I hope it helps, I sent in my request/ticket for road speed information in Canada to Garmin.
I thimk it would be of great benifit for any American that comes to Canada and have to convert Miles to Kilometers and maybe save them from a ticket.

Reply from Garmin

This is the reply I got yesterday from the ticket I sent them. When I replied back asking for a name at Navtek I could complain to, I was told they (Garmin) didn't have a name. I still believe the more tickets they receive, the faster we will get the speed limit feature in Canada.

GARMIN RESPONSE:
Thank you for contacting Garmin Cartography. Unfortunately the data that is provided to us by Navteq does not contain speed limit information for the highways of Canada. It is my hope that in one of our upcoming updates this data will be present, but at the current time it is not available.

Thank you again for your interest in Garmin and please let me know if I may be of further assistance.

Regards,

Jason

Everyone know's the saying

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, stay on top of Garmin for this to happen.

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Hopefully they will change it soon.

I reported it as well. I'm sure everyone would like this feature.

Canadian Speed Limits

Guess I'll have to do it the old fashioned way - read those little signs with the numbers on them (and remember they're in KPH, not MPH).

On the money.

visiter555 wrote:

It would be a handy feature for us in Canada, but small market share to garmin so...

I think you hit the nail on the head!

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10 cents worth

I sent in my 10 cents worth for this one. They may add it in a future map update if enough people ask.

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Garmen is not alone, I

Garmen is not alone, I tested my TT 540s with map v840, no speed limit was shown when simulated in Canada.

Don't know why it's not on

Don't know why it's not on your 540s, as I've noted earlier in this thread it _was_ available when I was testing a 330xls, on a road that was not a freeway. In addition the TomTom could also warn me audibly if I was exceeding the limit by a user definable amount.

It appears the data is available, all Garmin need is the will to implement it. Or else stand back and watch Google do it and gain yet another edge on Garmin. Given the uphill fight they now have against GPS enabled phones I would have thought they'd use everything in their armoury to fight back. Guess not!

No speed limit in canada after latest map update

After an update to the latest maps and firmware, I still don't see speed limits in Canada. During my travel to the US, as soon as I crossed the border, speed limits started showing in both MPH and KPH.

Also, to confirm what someone else already mentioned earlier, I also have a TomTom and speed limits are provided everywhere including Canada cities.

That's just a BIG disappointment since I just bought the 265WT because I was moving to Canada and since my 200 didn't have Canada maps, I had to get a new GPS that supported Canada as well.

Speed limit in Canada

The speed limit does show on my TomTom XXL 540S when travelling on major highways in Quebec
magellat

Ha!

You TomTom fanboys can go away, this is the Garmin forum! mrgreen

But yes, I wish we had it.

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Speed limit indicator for Canada

Just got a Garmin 765T. Very dissappointed about the fact that it does have Speed limit indicator for Canada. Even my 3 yrs old LG GPS has an audio Speed limit indicator. It will announce that you are exceeding the speed limit.

I bought Garmin because I thought with the big price it would have more features but I made a very BIG mistake.

How can Garmin say they don't have the map? So where did LG get the map to use?

While it would be nice to

While it would be nice to have speeds in Canada, or more accurate ones in the US for that matter, I'll never rely on the GPS for the posted limit.

Where did my speed limit signs go?

I am here in Syracuse,NY on business and my Nuvi 255w is not displaying the speed limit icon?

Where did my speed limit signs go?

Maybe it took a holiday and went to Canada to check out the speed limits.

ohwogo nuvi 750

Another Thought

MarcelRentech wrote:

I hope it helps, I sent in my request/ticket for road speed information in Canada to Garmin.
I thimk it would be of great benifit for any American that comes to Canada and have to convert Miles to Kilometers and maybe save them from a ticket.

Speed limits on any road can be changed whenever a city or province deems it necessary. Map data can take at least a couple of years to get changed. I would much rather remain vigilant and make sure I observe the speed limit signs.

If you're Canadian travelling in the US or an American travelling in Canada, the first thing to do is to change your locale data to the speed units in use in the country that you're in.

When I travel in the US I change to Miles and MPH and then periodically touch the top of the screen to see my actual speed in those units. I lock my cruise control based on the Garmin speed, since it's more accurate than my speedometer.

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August

I expect to head up to Mississauga in early August. I'll have to check the 765T and see what it displays. I always switched my C550 to metric when I crossed the border. I would do the same with the 765T so maybe it will show something. The speed limit on the 400 series highways is 100km/h though hardly ever recognized wherever I have driven!

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Ontario Speed Limits

Generally the Ontario police will not bother you below 120 kmp on the 40 series highways. This could change on Hwy 400, once you get north of Toronto, toward Barrie. Up there they tend to enforce the limit more rigorously.
btw, remember that in Ontario, there are special charges if you get caught doing 50 kmp over the limit. e.g. 80 in a 50 zone or 150 in a 100kmp zone. You can immediately have your car impounded and a whole number OF EXPENSIVE, ($10,000,00) fines imposed.

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Manitoba too

Not2Bright wrote:

btw, remember that in Ontario, there are special charges if you get caught doing 50 kmp over the limit. e.g. 80 in a 50 zone or 150 in a 100kmp zone. You can immediately have your car impounded and a whole number OF EXPENSIVE, ($10,000,00) fines imposed.

Manitoba is the same way, car impounded, 10 demerits and charged with Attempted Vehicular Manslaughter. Or at least that's what the cop who pulled me over when I was doing 45 over the limit many years ago.

Reckless Driving

[quote=winter
Manitoba is the same way, car impounded, 10 demerits and charged with Attempted Vehicular Manslaughter. Or at least that's what the cop who pulled me over when I was doing 45 over the limit many years ago.

Although a driver might "drift" a bit, I think you should be aware you're driving 40 - 50 kph (25 - 30 mph) over the speed limit on a highway! Many people drive 10 kph over the limit and expect a bit of a cushion from the police, but 45 kph over is speeding!

In Alberta you get nailed for reckless driving (with double points and escalating fines) for more than 30 kph over the speed limit. Your reference to manslaughter is likely related to a charge that could be imposed if you were involved in an accident.

50km/h

Not2Bright wrote:

btw, remember that in Ontario, there are special charges if you get caught doing 50 kmp over the limit. e.g. 80 in a 50 zone or 150 in a 100kmp zone. You can immediately have your car impounded and a whole number OF EXPENSIVE, ($10,000,00) fines imposed.

Yes, they have some nice blue and white signs around Grimsby advising people of that. The most I have pushed it on the stretch from Niagara Falls to Mississauga is 120km/h and I have still had people blow by me like I was standing still. I travel in the middle lane to let them go by me.

Ontario has a compact with New York so any points you get in Ontario (or a Canadian driving in New York) show up on your license. Oddly, I could get a speeding ticket in Connecticut, New Jersey or just about any other state and New York would never hear about it if I pay the fine.

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Anticipation

I am taking the 265WT for its first road trip into Michigan soon and I am looking forward to seeing the speed limit icon come on for the first time. Will be interesting to see how the traffic reciever works there too, it works OK north of the border but seems to have a bit of a lag in the accuracy department.

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Another Response From Garmin

I e-mailed Garmin support (thanks to this very forum) on the weekend, and here is their response...

"Thank you for contacting Garmin International. We would be happy to answer your question. Unfortunately, this information is not available in most of Canada. I have seen it come up a few times in Toronto, but this was only once or twice and that was on the 2010.10 mapping. We do apologize for the inconvienence.

With Best Regards,

Lorraine H
Product Support Specialist
Automotive Team
Garmin International"

Looks a bit to me like the information provided depends heavily on which CSR is providing it.

On the other hand, it could have something to do with Canada's heavy-handed traffic laws. But I kind of doubt that, since it's dangerously close to a conspiracy theory!

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Speed Limit

My 1490T shows it all the time, however, I have not taken it into Canada yet.

Not In Canada

fletchz wrote:

My 1490T shows it all the time, however, I have not taken it into Canada yet.

That's just it, I have a 1490 and a 265 nither of them show a speed limit (generic) in Canada.

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There's a speed limit icon????? I've never seen it. Yes, I'm in Canada

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rodeophoto wrote:

There's a speed limit icon????? I've never seen it. Yes, I'm in Canada

That's why you've never seen it. Cross the border, and you'll see it constantly.

No speed limit for Canada

rodeophoto wrote:

There's a speed limit icon????? I've never seen it. Yes, I'm in Canada

There's no speed limit for canada. I have the Garmin 3790 and crossed the border to Canada several times and the speed limit icon disappear. I'm using the lastest map version.

Other Thread

As I posted in another thread on this subject, I was in Mississauga back in August and the Garmin appeared to be aware of speed limits even though it did not display them. It was able to calculate rather accurately ETA's, which requires knowledge of the speed limit. Driving faster than the posted speed on the QEW caused the ETA to change. Either Garmin just has a rough average speed entered or they have the information in the maps but just choose not to/cannot display it.

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