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rolleyes Does it make any difference if a ticket camera is a safety device or a revenue producer. If it slows people down and makes them aware of their surroundings it serves a great purpose.SAVING LIVES!!!

Speeding

kgmilton wrote:

rolleyes Does it make any difference if a ticket camera is a safety device or a revenue producer. If it slows people down and makes them aware of their surroundings it serves a great purpose.SAVING LIVES!!!

That's a pretty accurate analysis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOI

kgmilton wrote:

rolleyes Does it make any difference if a ticket camera is a safety device or a revenue producer. If it slows people down and makes them aware of their surroundings it serves a great purpose.SAVING LIVES!!!

Is this for FOI or was suppose to be answer to some other post?

I agree though it saves lives

Ticket cameras in general

Sorry I was not more specific, it was in response to all the posts complaining that red light and ticket cameras were unnessary or just there to dig into the motorist pocket. redface

My Thoughts

I'm sure most of us feel that its all out there for safety but I also see it as a way for the city to make a quick buck.

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Its still

kgmilton wrote:

rolleyes Does it make any difference if a ticket camera is a safety device or a revenue producer. If it slows people down and makes them aware of their surroundings it serves a great purpose.SAVING LIVES!!!

Its still all about the money...and its wrong. Put more officers on the road if they want to slow people down and make it safer, the camera does not pick up the idiots that are weaveing in and out of traffic causeing the pileups, cutting across 4 lanes of traffic, making you slam on the brakes because they made a beeline for the exit from the inside lane without looking or even careing about who's around them...

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I think having a police and

I think having a police and red light camera or any other device does not matter. If you drive accordingly why you bother. People complains because they knew they always broke the law.

revenue generating

I agree, obey the law. Keep your driving under the limit. However I don't think the police should be generating revenue. That is what taxes are for, and I get to vote on those. One thing I have noticed here in GA is that less people are running red lights, but more people are getting rear ended abruptly stopping for them too.

Not enough

They must not be generating enough revenue or taxes to put more live enforcement out there, cameras are just one tool that is cheaper. I guess everone needs to hang up and pay attention not just the guy in front, especially in construction zones. FYI has anyone noticed the person dressed as a highway worker holding a shovel and a radar gun. Hope you all had a GREAT and safe holiday. Ken

I complain because

gdlcjr wrote:

I think having a police and red light camera or any other device does not matter. If you drive accordingly why you bother. People complains because they knew they always broke the law.

Your wrong!! I don't break the Law, I do have the files in my GPS. Why you ask, because it is very easy to sometimes speed and not be aware of it, so for those times when I have a brain fa#t, I don't feel like paying $200.00 dollars to a unsympathetic camera.

However I complain because it puts people out of work. Cities don't have to pay overtime,sick pay hospitalization none of that stuff to a camera, COME ON Wake up people.
The safety is in numbers, not only can a police officer write a speeding ticket but he can respond to domestic violence, burglary or what every else he or she is needed for. A camera sits there with a pole up it's as# and goes no where.

How about this when you go to Home Depot, I hope you don't self check out, it's the same thing, another person out of work. I was there the other day, and One person was working behind the self checkout with no cashier lines open, and this was a Saturday morning folks.

So Please don't lay the safety crap on me, It's all about the money, Police officers can run Radar details if cities would hire them. Period.

Bob

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Its about money, politics, AND safety.

Its about money, politics, AND safety. Hire more officers and your taxes go up, so you'll complain about that too. More cashiers, and the stores charge more for the products they sell. Everybody's got to be paid, including you.

I wish they would hire more officers. Sometimes in this town we have to wait quite a while before an officer shows up after a burglary is reported. But I also don't mind the cameras- I think they're still a good thing after accounting for all the pros and cons.

Just yesterday there was a news story about some jerk that tried to fool the traffic camera by taking a sharpie and tampering with his license plate. It was gonna work, too. Someone else got the tickets and complained that it wasn't him. The police took a second look at the pics, thinking it was a camera error on the plate pic. Only they also got the idiot flipping off the camera with both hands!

This guy obviously cares nothing about other people on the road or the law. Anyway the police were able to deduce the correct plate number and track the jerk down. Now he's not only got some tickets to pay off, but they're charging him with felony tampering with state property (his plate number) and he got one year behind bars for that.

I'm glad the camera was there and got this jerk behind bars before he killed somebody with his "f***-*ff" attitude toward the system.

I have other stories from my town too. One lady habitually sped through a camera location and ignored 22 tickets and finally got herself in jail too. She obviously didn't care either and thought she could just ignore the law and get away with it.

I don't care if the city/state IS generating revenue from these cameras. If you don't break the law habitually, why would you have to worry about it? The roads in my town ARE just a little safer today because of those cameras. I've seen the proof on the news.

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I respectfully Disagree...

dont155 wrote:

Its about money, politics, AND safety. Hire more officers and your taxes go up, so you'll complain about that too. More cashiers, and the stores charge more for the products they sell. Everybody's got to be paid, including you.

I wish they would hire more officers. Sometimes in this town we have to wait quite a while before an officer shows up after a burglary is reported. But I also don't mind the cameras- I think they're still a good thing after accounting for all the pros and cons.

Just yesterday there was a news story about some jerk that tried to fool the traffic camera by taking a sharpie and tampering with his license plate. It was gonna work, too. Someone else got the tickets and complained that it wasn't him. The police took a second look at the pics, thinking it was a camera error on the plate pic. Only they also got the idiot flipping off the camera with both hands!

This guy obviously cares nothing about other people on the road or the law. Anyway the police were able to deduce the correct plate number and track the jerk down. Now he's not only got some tickets to pay off, but they're charging him with felony tampering with state property (his plate number) and he got one year behind bars for that.

I'm glad the camera was there and got this jerk behind bars before he killed somebody with his "f***-*ff" attitude toward the system.

I have other stories from my town too. One lady habitually sped through a camera location and ignored 22 tickets and finally got herself in jail too. She obviously didn't care either and thought she could just ignore the law and get away with it.

I don't care if the city/state IS generating revenue from these cameras. If you don't break the law habitually, why would you have to worry about it? The roads in my town ARE just a little safer today because of those cameras. I've seen the proof on the news.

specially here in Phoenix... and never believe the news... or the spin they put on it.

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They can help....

The POIs have helped me by alerting me what's ahead. Even if a driver don't speed or blow through lights it helps to know. If you are casually driving up to an intersection and the light turns yellow with enough distance you can just roll through before the light turns red. But in some instances, some lights are timed to turn red quickly so these POIs help to let me know the possibility of that so I can stop right away rather than worry about it staying yellow as I drive through.

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Mike

Some good comments here....

If "obeying the law" was a real concern of law enforcement for "safety's sake," the penalty would not be soley on wallets and insurance rates. The solution is simply to put citizens drivers licenses at stake. In short, get caught speeding and you lose your license for a week. Speed at over 20mph above the limit and the penalty would be a suspended license for a month.....and so on. Monetary penalties will always be a part of the system, so add that to every incident.

Every interstate in my area has an average speed of 15 to 25mph above the posted limit. Our various police officers from several area counties and even the highway patrol admit on TV and other media that they can do nothing, but will ticket those doing over 85mph or driving in a dangerous manner.

Law enforcement is kind of an odd term to use don't you think.

In the Atlanta metro area, yellow lights are not the same length. Some are 4+ seconds long, while plenty of them are 2 or less seconds long. The cameras at lights definitely reduced fatalities in my area, however, GA has recently (I believe) deemed them unconstitutional to use.