Red Light Alerts Clear at Zero Speed

 

Recently loaded both the Red Light Camera and Speed Camera POI files and both are great. I have a c330 without MP3 so can only obtain the "Dings and Dongs" and not the MP3 audible alert.

I find it annoying that the Red Light Alert disappears when you stop for the red light. (Zero Speed Reset) This is when you need Red Light Alert most and then you lose your reminder. The alert reappears after you start moving, but that is too late if you are already in the intersection and the light has changed again.

Same happens on the Speed alerts but isn't as important with Speed Cameras since you aren't even moving.

Does anybody have a solution? Are there models that provide option not to clear alerts at zero speed?

Thanks

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StreetPilot c330 and c550 with 2009 City Navigator Map in Metro Atlanta

Why do you need the redlight

Why do you need the redlight camera alert if you are already at stop. The reason why I installed the redlight camera alert on my GPSr is to alert me ahead of time that there's a redlight camera approaching not to try to beat the yellow light because you might not make it. I have no problem if my redlight camera alert disappear when I'm at stop. I'm not gonna get a ticket because I didn't run the redlight.

Who am I again?

delgran wrote:

I find it annoying that the Red Light Alert disappears when you stop for the red light. (Zero Speed Reset) The alert reappears after you start moving, but that is too late if you are already in the intersection and the light has changed again.

Short term memory loss perhaps? wink

Didn't the alert just go off as you approached the intersection? If so, I would think that for the 30 seconds you are stopped you wouldn't already forget that you are at a camera intersection.

Cheers,
Patrick

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Garmin nüvi 200 (my first GPS), 780, & 3700 Series. And a Mac user.

Ever Heard of Heavy Traffic?

One might have sufficient traffic that you don't get to go at the end of the current cycle. Might even have to wait 3-4 cycles. So, if you are first in line and want to make a left turn, you may not get a chance until the green turns to yellow and that is when the camera can also get you - ask my wife who got the notice in the mail with a picture. By the time the GPS detects you are moving, the camera already has you.

If you are in your local area, didn't have distractions, and maybe even short term memory, you wouldn't need the alert anyway because if you think about it, you already know the camera is there.

It isn't like the alert is annoying, just displays on the screen. Actually more annoying with the reset, because then it keeps going bong every time you start, or if you have the MPS, it would repeat.

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StreetPilot c330 and c550 with 2009 City Navigator Map in Metro Atlanta

Interesting

In my area, it seems that everyone knows where the red light cameras are, so this scenario is rarely an issue. With or without a Garmin, red light camera intersections rarely ever contain someone ahead of the white line when waiting for a left turn.

Like stated above, can't imagine forgetting. Something about the prospect of $$$ coming out of my wallet cures that problem for me.

It is my understanding that

It is my understanding that red light cameras have a minimum speed at which they will issue tickets. I remember researching it online when I got one. I read where if your car is already in the intersection when the light turns red, below a threshold speed, or making a turn, it isn't designed to give you a ticket. If that really is the case, it wouldn't matter if the warning is cleared when you stop. My primary concern on these cameras is not making it into the intersection in time before the light turns red. A too short of yellow time can cause me to misjudge whether to stop. So the warning is really most important when you see the light turn yellow and need to decide quickly. I know I'd always stop if I heard the warning, even if I had to slam on the breaks. lol

Yes and no

From one of my cop buddies description, these things use a speed detector on the road prior to the red light to detect cars that it computes are going too fast to stop without violating the red light (your minimum threshold speed). That comes from when the local city government considered placing them.

That said though, I descovered what these things look like from some that are not too picky. Seems the infared illuminator on the cameras another local jurisdiction uses set off my laser detector. These cameras fire everytime the light changes. When my laser detector started going off at the same intersection everytime I stopped for a red light, I began investigating and found the first red light camera I ever saw.

So, some of the units use speed sensors, some apparently non descriminately take pictures for someone to look over later.

I've found that I get two

I've found that I get two warnings even when I don't get caught at the light. The first is around the 1000 feet (or whatever I sent it to when I loaded), and the 2nd as I'm going through the intersection.

I love the ability to load the camera locations, but I'd honestly prefer just one alert (1000 feet away), and not bother me as I'm going through.

Not Annoying?

delgran wrote:

It isn't like the alert is annoying, just displays on the screen. Actually more annoying with the reset, because then it keeps going bong every time you start, or if you have the MPS, it would repeat.

BONG! YOU ARE APPROACHING A RED LIGHT CAMERA!

Ohhhhhhhh, yeah. It could be horribly annoying it it kept on saying that over and over while I was stopped!

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Two Alerts

mem10123, did you load the same alarm for camera and speed cameras? If you used the same alarm, but set different distances for the two types, you could conceivably get two alerts if the camera was the dual use type. At least that's my guess.

Guess.

mem10123 wrote:

I've found that I get two warnings even when I don't get caught at the light. The first is around the 1000 feet (or whatever I sent it to when I loaded), and the 2nd as I'm going through the intersection.

I love the ability to load the camera locations, but I'd honestly prefer just one alert (1000 feet away), and not bother me as I'm going through.

I would bet that the second alert is because you are, while in the intersection, on two streets that pass the camera -- it suddenly gives you the alert for the second street. You could test this by moving the POI slightly away from the intersection, so that it is only on ONE street and see if it still gives you the second alert.

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Two Alerts - Second Due to Starting to Move after Zero Speed?

mem10123 wrote:

I've found that I get two warnings even when I don't get caught at the light. The first is around the 1000 feet (or whatever I sent it to when I loaded), and the 2nd as I'm going through the intersection.

I love the ability to load the camera locations, but I'd honestly prefer just one alert (1000 feet away), and not bother me as I'm going through.

Sounds like what I am referring to except by "not caught at the light", do you mean that you get the second alert without going to near zero speed?.

I get first alert at whatever distance I specify. After that the alert remains on the display until I clear the intersection. The audible alert repeats everytime I start moving again after stopping. If stop and go several times, the audible alert will repeat every time i start moving as I am approaching the interesection. Garmin referred to less than 2 MPH as "zero speed".

The normal case if you stop for the light, traffic will allow you to go on the next green so you obtain only two alerts. However, if i do not have to stop for the light, I will obtain only one audible alert. Is this what you are experiencing?

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StreetPilot c330 and c550 with 2009 City Navigator Map in Metro Atlanta

Red light alert..

I'm new at this gps thing. My nuvi 750 will give me two beeps at 400 meters and again as I pass the light. My guess is that it beeps again because it picks up the camera from all sides. I guess if the beeps bother you, you can always turn it down a bit. I don't run red lights. I try and watch ahead to see if the light is about to change. I watch the walk / don't walk light and it will flash about 10 times before the light changes. Have a great day

Wayne

bentbiker wrote:
mem10123 wrote:

I've found that I get two warnings even when I don't get caught at the light. The first is around the 1000 feet (or whatever I sent it to when I loaded), and the 2nd as I'm going through the intersection.

I love the ability to load the camera locations, but I'd honestly prefer just one alert (1000 feet away), and not bother me as I'm going through.

I would bet that the second alert is because you are, while in the intersection, on two streets that pass the camera -- it suddenly gives you the alert for the second street. You could test this by moving the POI slightly away from the intersection, so that it is only on ONE street and see if it still gives you the second alert.

Same thing happens to me, I

Same thing happens to me, I am ready to remove the MP3 file because I dont like the repeat of red light camera ahead audio.

Have you tried

Have you tried adding enough dead air to the end of a custom alert to allow you to clear the light?

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As long as the car is moving I get more than one alert

mem10123 wrote:

I've found that I get two warnings even when I don't get caught at the light. The first is around the 1000 feet (or whatever I sent it to when I loaded), and the 2nd as I'm going through the intersection.

I love the ability to load the camera locations, but I'd honestly prefer just one alert (1000 feet away), and not bother me as I'm going through.

I set my (NUVI 350) alert for 400 ft. As long as I am moving I get multiple alerts starting from 400 ft before the camera to 400 ft after I pass the camera.

- jgracey

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Try This

jgracey wrote:

As long as I am moving I get multiple alerts starting from 400 ft before the camera to 400 ft after I pass the camera.

Under Wrench/ProximityPoints/Alerts-Change there is an audio button. Choosing that will allow you to choose between "Single Tone", "Continuous-Speed Alerts", and "Continuous-All Alerts". Check your setting.

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sorry guy, that does not

sorry guy, that does not happen with my garmin street pilot 7200, as a matter of fact i wish it would stop when i'm waiting for the targeted light to change.i find all the light flashing and reated alert noise annoying.

Bummer, but ????

rtaggi,

Who are you talking to? I was responding to jgracey, and he doesn't have a 7200 -- he has a Nuvi 350 which I believe has what I described.

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Interesting there's so much

Interesting there's so much variation with what different people are seeing/hearing form it. It's not a biggie for me, but it will give me the two alerts even if I don't have to stop (or slow down). And no, I have gone to lengths to be sure I don't have 2 cameras in one intersection (i.e. Speed/Redlight). I've removed the duplicates where there are both.