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Customs POIs on nuvi 370

 

I was wondering if anybody has run into this situation. When I pull up my custom POIs, the first line is "All Categories" and when I select this it completely shuts the nuvi down. The rest of the files act as they should.

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

Never occurred

Never occurred on my C330 or C340 ! Doesn't sound very good to me !!! Good Luck in solving it !

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MrKenFL- "Money can't buy you happiness .. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery." NUVI 260, Nuvi 1490LMT & Nuvi 2595LMT all with 2014.4 maps !

Data related crash.

sandman wrote:

I was wondering if anybody has run into this situation. When I pull up my custom POIs, the first line is "All Categories" and when I select this it completely shuts the nuvi down. The rest of the files act as they should.

The Nüvi is actually crashing: if you were to dig around in the diagnostics, it probably says "Data abort" somewhere in there. Your mission, is to find out which entry in your Custom POI's is triggering this... ("All Categories" is of course, an automatically built entry.)

(I presume you've tried the obvious step of rebuilding your Custom Poi's).

Depending how many POI's you have, you might have to try a 'binary chop' to narrow this down. Take away half the POI's and see if you still have the problem. If you don't, put the other half in the unit instead. Keep halving them until you've zoomed into the problem POI(s).

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------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ----------------------               http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy           »      

Crash

But if all of the files open ok individually it wouldn't be a problem with one of his poi files would it?

Would an identical entry in 2 different POI files cause a problem?

(sandman, understand that I defer to whatever Phil says, he IS the POI guru! smile

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Garmin Etrex Vista, Streetpilot 2610, GPSMap 60Csx, Nüvi 750, Colorado 400t, Nüvi 3790t

ah but...

quackinup wrote:

But if all of the files open ok individually it wouldn't be a problem with one of his poi files would it?

I wasn't taking the statement literally wink
If he really has tried every entry, one at a time, then yes, you're right....

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------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ----------------------               http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy           »      

Custom POIs on nuvi 370

Thanx for the suggestions. I have reloaded the POIs several times with no luck. When I said they all opened OK, I haven't checked each and every one. I also haven't checked for duplicates, however when I select a POI to save it will tell me if I need to overwrite a currently saved POI so I don't think that is the problem. The majority of my POI's are on an SD card. I am thinking about building a new folder on my computer and putting them in the folder 5 at a time and reloading after each set is added to see if I can narrow down a bad file. The only additional POI files I have on the nuvi memory are the red light and the speed traps which both seem to be acting OK.

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

A dumb question

but have you run POI Verifier on all the files ??????

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MrKenFL- "Money can't buy you happiness .. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery." NUVI 260, Nuvi 1490LMT & Nuvi 2595LMT all with 2014.4 maps !

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sandman wrote:

I haven't checked each and every one. I am thinking about building a new folder on my computer and putting them in the folder 5 at a time and reloading after each set is added to see if I can narrow down a bad file.

That's why I suggested you try with half the files. Just keep halving your sample and you will converge on the bad one(s) faster (because at each guess, you reduce the overall total by half).

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------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ----------------------               http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy           »      

Crash

Hornbyp wrote:

I wasn't taking the statement literally wink
If he really has tried every entry, one at a time, then yes, you're right....

We're talking POI files, not individual entries in the file, right? I thought he meant that when he opened each file, like a redlight camera file or a mcdonalds file, that the list came up ok, but when he opened them all combined that it crashed. That seems odd to me. If the All Entries crashes, why didn't one of the smaller groups?

What I meant by duplicates was in different poi files. Lets say you have a McDonalds listed in an "All Mcdonalds" file and a McDonalds listed in a "Los Angeles Restaurants" file and everything is identical with one of the location (name, coords, etc) would that cause an issue? I'm not saying it would, just wondering.

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Garmin Etrex Vista, Streetpilot 2610, GPSMap 60Csx, Nüvi 750, Colorado 400t, Nüvi 3790t

Who knows ;-)

quackinup wrote:

If the All Entries crashes, why didn't one of the smaller groups?

It's hard to guess exactly what the Nüvi's doing with these files...scanning through them all the time presumably, looking for Icons that need displaying, alerts that need sounding etc - you'd have thought that would have found any dodgy entries.

(The Streetpilot C5xx V4.1 firmware had an interesting POI-related bug. Mine would crash every time I was anywhere near a particular (down-market) supermarket. It turned out to be the use of a 24bit .bmp file for the icon!)

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------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ----------------------               http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy           »      

A dumb question

Not a dumb question! I don't know how!!!! Can you help me with that??

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

good thought

Hornbyp wrote:
sandman wrote:

I haven't checked each and every one. I am thinking about building a new folder on my computer and putting them in the folder 5 at a time and reloading after each set is added to see if I can narrow down a bad file.

That's why I suggested you try with half the files. Just keep halving your sample and you will converge on the bad one(s) faster (because at each guess, you reduce the overall total by half).

I will do it that way - thanx

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

Crash

I see what you mean now - I don't have any crossover files as I have not gotten that finite yet with my POI folders.

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

let's try

Say you had 26 POI Files, called A.csv,B.csv,C.csv...through to Y.csv,Z.csv

Start by loading half of them ... A.csv through to N.csv (doesn't have to be exact!).

If your problem remains, you can immediately discount O.csv to Z.csv (although when you eventually find the problem, it may be present in one of them as well).

So then you repeat the exercise, (loading half of the remainder); this time A.csv to G.csv. Maybe this time, the problem's gone so you discard A.csv to G.csv, and load the 'other half' of the previous sample, ie H.csv to P.csv instead.

Get the idea? ... the sample you're testing decreases by half each time, so you zero in on the problem one faster.

Of course, when you find the file, you might have to use the same technique again- only at the POI level this time.

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------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ----------------------               http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy           »      

Crash

quackinup wrote:
Hornbyp wrote:

I wasn't taking the statement literally wink
If he really has tried every entry, one at a time, then yes, you're right....

We're talking POI files, not individual entries in the file, right? I thought he meant that when he opened each file, like a redlight camera file or a mcdonalds file, that the list came up ok, but when he opened them all combined that it crashed. That seems odd to me. If the All Entries crashes, why didn't one of the smaller groups?

What I meant by duplicates was in different poi files. Lets say you have a McDonalds listed in an "All Mcdonalds" file and a McDonalds listed in a "Los Angeles Restaurants" file and everything is identical with one of the location (name, coords, etc) would that cause an issue? I'm not saying it would, just wondering.

Whoa - Howdy - Disregard my last reply on this subject. I only have two POI folders and I just checked and found the zipped file for red lights and speed traps in both. One POI is on my nuvi memory and the other is on my SD card. I will remedy that and see what happens. Won't be able to do this for awhile as I got to get going on something else, I will let you know what happens, probably will be later this evening. Thanx again!

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

let's try

Hornbyp wrote:

Say you had 26 POI Files, called A.csv,B.csv,C.csv...through to Y.csv,Z.csv

Start by loading half of them ... A.csv through to N.csv (doesn't have to be exact!).

If your problem remains, you can immediately discount O.csv to Z.csv (although when you eventually find the problem, it may be present in one of them as well).

So then you repeat the exercise, (loading half of the remainder); this time A.csv to G.csv. Maybe this time, the problem's gone so you discard A.csv to G.csv, and load the 'other half' of the previous sample, ie H.csv to P.csv instead.

Get the idea? ... the sample you're testing decreases by half each time, so you zero in on the problem one faster.

Of course, when you find the file, you might have to use the same technique again- only at the POI level this time.

I understand this process - When I said I needed help, I screwed up the reply. I was trying to answer the question if I had used POI verifier from MrkenFL which I hadn't because I don't know how and was asking help on that piece of the puzzle.

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

As a routine

I use POI Verifier, by Retired Technician, to check every file I make or modify !
I know when I was working on a fairly large POI file (over 1700 entries) earlier this year it was invaluable in finding many errors I made in inputting. I use it also to even find errors in POI files that I download!
I have also made 15-20 other smaller POI files ! Invaluable tool !
Get the web address doing a search of the threads. There is a VERY NOMINAL fee for the software but it is certainly worth the charge if you plan on generating OR modifying POI files ! IMHO

You can also e-mail "Retired Technician" directly I suppose !

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MrKenFL- "Money can't buy you happiness .. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery." NUVI 260, Nuvi 1490LMT & Nuvi 2595LMT all with 2014.4 maps !

As a routine

MrKenFL wrote:

I use POI Verifier, by Retired Technician, to check every file I make or modify !
I know when I was working on a fairly large POI file (over 1700 entries) earlier this year it was invaluable in finding many errors I made in inputting. I use it also to even find errors in POI files that I download!
I have also made 15-20 other smaller POI files ! Invaluable tool !
Get the web address doing a search of the threads. There is a VERY NOMINAL fee for the software but it is certainly worth the charge if you plan on generating OR modifying POI files ! IMHO

You can also e-mail "Retired Technician" directly I suppose !

Thanks a lot - I will do that.

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

Customs POIs on nuvi 370

sandman wrote:

I was wondering if anybody has run into this situation. When I pull up my custom POIs, the first line is "All Categories" and when I select this it completely shuts the nuvi down. The rest of the files act as they should.

Thanks to all of you who gave me the "help" hints!
The problem turned out to be several problems: several duplicates (one in the nuvi memory and one on the SD card); two duplicate .BMP files and 3 Zipped files -DAH! No wonder the darn thing shut down, it was totally confused.
Again, thanks to everyone for the help - all is working fine now. This site really helps us GPS challenged people.

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

I'm sure

I'm sure that all who "helped" will just say "You're Welcome"
That's the way it is around here - we all benefit from trying to assist !

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MrKenFL- "Money can't buy you happiness .. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery." NUVI 260, Nuvi 1490LMT & Nuvi 2595LMT all with 2014.4 maps !

Roger That

Great site - Great people - real enjoyment!!

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

Crash

Hornbyp wrote:

(The Streetpilot C5xx V4.1 firmware had an interesting POI-related bug. Mine would crash every time I was anywhere near a particular (down-market) supermarket. It turned out to be the use of a 24bit .bmp file for the icon!)

Just now ran into a crash problem on my Nuvi. It seems (in sim mode at least) that if I am in range of a TourGuide point and try to route anywhere the unit shuts down. I immediately thought of this post, but I don't have any bitmaps associated with the tourguide.

I put myself at the hotel I will be staying at next week in Denver, which immediately makes the announcement that I am near the train station. When I try to route anywhere it crashes. However if I drag the map a couple of miles away set that as my location the routing works fine. Also works fine if I turn the TourGuide off in the unit.

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Garmin Etrex Vista, Streetpilot 2610, GPSMap 60Csx, Nüvi 750, Colorado 400t, Nüvi 3790t

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