Updating maps to v2008 on c530

Doubt that can be done with the c330, as it is NOT recognized as a USB device. If there's another way to get it to a SD card for where the c330 could see it, I'd love to know how and I'm sure others would as well...

When I used the upgrade, the MapInstall program loaded. I used this to load the maps. Not sure if it would work with the c330, but would like to know the results.

I updated my c330 and my option was either lower 48 or Canada and border states to Canada as you said. No option for any other configuration. However, I do not have a SD card because according to the manual it's for Garmin maps. h-m-m-m-m this would seem to qualify. Guess I could go buy a SD card and try to do that, but am hesitant. Would hope somebody on the site might have tried this with a c330. If not, I may bite the bullet and try it. Maybe the Garmin Tech might advise us as there are so many owners of c330. Or, all else fails, I could e-mail Tech Support again to see if I can get a definative answer. Had done so, but that question was ignored, h-m-m-m?

If the original set of maps were loaded onto the 530 completely, why can't the update be loaded completely? There can't be so many new roads. How is it that new C530's are loaded completely.
Also, if I choose to load the lower 48 states now and later choose to travel to Canada can I then load Canada for my trip and then reload the 48 upon return?

Regards
Tom

V2008 map is large than the previous verison. So V2008 cannot completely fit on some Garmin GPS with small memory.

Yes you can change the map from lower 48 to canada by using the V2008 map DVD

You can load them separately, however the option I chose i.e. load the lower 48 into the GPSr and then go back and use the MapInstall program (loaded on my PC by the installer) to load the rest of the data to my SD card seems to allow you to have both at the same time.

My upgrade is supposed to come today via UPS. Has anyone on this board upgraded to the new maps using the 7200 or the7500?. From what I,ve been reading Memory seems to be the big thing. My Garmin 7200 has quite a bit of memory how much is left with all the POIs on it is anyones guess. Thanks for any help!

Just uploaded the updated maps to my #7200 and it did not ask me any questions. Once it recognize my unit which took a bit of doing, the only thing it said was {this could take up to 2 hours for completion and that was all it said. I guess the #7200 had enough memory It took about 40 minutes to complete.I took it out and ran a couple of Favorites that used to take me out of the way because it didn,t recognize new roads. This time it recognized the new and quicker roads. So far its great! I,ll know more when my wife and I go down to Charlotte North Carolina for the modular home showing at their convention Center Sept 7,8.

I installed the lower 48 on my nuvi 200 manually because the installer failed. I would like to install the Canada map to my SD card. Can you post the file structure of the map on your SD card so I can try that out? I don't think MapInstall is on my PC. Can I install that from the DVD without it trying to reinstall the map to my nuvi?

1. MapInstall was installed on my PC by the installer. It put a shortcut on my desktop and placed the program in my Garmin Folder.

2. I don't think that the structure on my SD card is any help as it created a single file: gmapsupp.img which comprises all of the map segments I downloaded.

3. I tried an alternative path by using MapSource. Having already loaded the complete v2008 into my PC (part of the installation process), I can select the same Canadian and Alaska map segments (there are 12 in total) and transfer them to the SD card. Below are the segments I loaded and their size. It seems that creates a single map image.

ALASKA City Navigator North America NT 2008 5.01 MB

ALBERTA City Navigator North America NT 2008 9.8 MB

BRITISH COLUMBIA City Navigator North America NT 2008 8.51 MB

LABRADOR - NEWFOUNDLAND City Navigator North America NT 2008 1.53 MB

MANITOBA City Navigator North America NT 2008 3.64 MB

NORTHERN QUEBEC City Navigator North America NT 2008 748 KB

NORTHWEST TERRITORIES City Navigator North America NT 2008 660 KB

NUNAVUT City Navigator North America NT 2008 1.10 MB

ONTARIO City Navigator North America NT 2008 23.0 MB

SASKATCHEWAN City Navigator North America NT 2008 6.02 MB

SOUTHERN QUEBEC City Navigator North America NT 2008 15.8 MB

YUKON City Navigator North America NT 2008 296 KB

I was able to install MapSource from the DVD and it also installed MapInstall, so no I can load the rest of the North America maps onto my SD card.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

My nuvi 200 would have been a lot less useful if I hadn't found POI Factory!!

I have noticed all the comments about some of the Garmin units not able to handle both Canada and the US. I haven't noticed if this applies to the C550 (although I might have missed this). Has anyone upgraded the C550 with both countries?

I believe the c550 has enough memory to hold the entire map set.

I have a C550 and installed the 2008 map update. I just did a search on the C550 for a Canadian province and it was there. So, I guess US and Canada are on the C550.
Ronnie

The base maps for all of North America are included with the units. That doesn't mean the detailed 2008 maps are there.

The map info page on my c550 shows "City Navigator North America NT 2008.
If I search for Montreal, Quebec, I can zoom down to street level.
Doesn't this mean I have the detailed map for all North America?

Ronnie

Yep. It looks that way.

Thanks for the info. I would have been really disappointed if it didn't...

On the nuvi you can turn the detailed map on and off from the Map Info page. I don't know if the c550 has the same option. If you zoom into Montreal and the streets disappear after turning the NT 2008 maps off that would indicate that you do have the Canada maps installed.

Ok the old maps (v.8) was 965.73MBs big. The C530 only had a 1GB worth of space. The new maps (2008) is 1.02GBs big. So as you can see, it wouldn't all fix on the C530.

The nuvi 200 has 1GB (1024MB) of memory. Of that, after formatting, the drive only has 991 MB available.

After considering all the supporting files and basemap, there is only about 940MB available for the detailed maps. The 48 state file is 907MB.

I wonder if I can safely delete (move to my harddrive) the non-English voice and help files to free up space when and if I need to.

My new c330 is recognised as a USB device (after installing drivers from the CD). I put red light cameras POI along with the Alert .mp3 file on my 1 gig expansion card. It spots the cameras but for now the alert sound doesn't work (the built in alert sound works instead). Either way I get the alert. I haven't received the '08 map DVD yet.

Yes, it will be recognized as a USB device, but NOT a mass storage device, supposedly, nor is it MP3 capable. Are you telling us that you see the 1 gig SD card on your computer? What drive does it show? PC or MAC? What operating system? This is a very interesting developement, h-m-m...

Thanks for this tip. I did the same thing with my Nuvi 200 and now have the US and Canada available. (Now I can take the really long route to work and not get lost.)

Yes, you can safely delete any voice, text, and vehicle files you don't need. As you have stated, I always recommend that people copy them to there computer as a backup.

Be sure you know which files you are looking at and only delete those files.

Thanks, MM.

I wasn't sure if there was an index that would cause the GPSr to have a fit if some of the files were missing.

Hi

I just received my Map Update DVD and installed the new maps on my C530. However, I cannot find the Map Install program on my desktop.

Where did it get installed on your desktop?

Thanks

Jean

It was installed under Garmin, however I also had a desktop icon. Also, you can use Mapsource to select and download the additional maps to your SD card.

Thanks for the quick reply. I finally found the ICON. I must be blind - it was there all along but I missed it.

However, when I run MapInstall, it aborts telling me "MapInstall could not find any installed products - Please install one or more MapSource products and start MapInstall again". I had copied the 2 "img" files from the DVD to the same folder (Garmin) but it doesn't help. Where am I going wrong???

You might just have to unlock the map product that you installed.

I don't think UNLOCK is the problem.

Can someone give me the detailed process to follow to run MapInstall? Is it just a question of running MapInstall and it is supposed to ask the proper questions. When I read previous topics, it seems that it was very easy for many people to use but when I try it, it aborts.

Should I have the GPS unit connected when I start MapInstall? Should the DVD update be in the drive? Should all the files be in the same folder as the program??

Help!!!

Jean

I can only account for the way I did it.
1. I have Mapsource installed so the maps were automatically updated on my PC when I ran the update for my GPS.
2. I ran Mapinstall and it asks for the location i.e. GPSr or SD card (my GPS is connected, or I can install the SD card into a card reader and connect that way). This is the same process as running POI Loader.
3. I then see a large map (I can zoom and move left, right, up and down) of North America.
4. I click on each area that I want to add (each province in Canada, Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico.
5. The program goes from there and produces the correct map file (you will see the different steps with a timer on the screen).
6. Process will tell me when it is complete.

BTW, you can do the same thing with MapSource, choosing the maps you want, and then transferring to your SD card as above.

The DVD I received from GARMIN contained only the Map Updates. When the DVD loaded, it asked me which maps I wanted (Canada or 48 States). It then updated the maps directly on my GPS unit. No maps were updated on my PC.

When I run either MapSource or MapInstall, I get the same message (see previous post).

I guess I will have to live with reloading the maps when I travel to the US!

Thanks

Today I went to Walmart and purchased a card reader/writer and 1gb SD card. On another thread someone said I might be able to load POI's to the SD card, but that DIDN'T work for me. However, I was able to load Alaska and all the Canada maps to the SD card, as above using the SD card and the card reader/writer. I still have to leave the POI's on the unit using the POI loader, cannot get them to be recognized by the c330 when on the SD card. Note: I could not upload the maps while the SD card was in the unit and the c330 was attached to the computer, as Map Install does not see the SD card along with the c330. This appears to be the difference between the c330 and the c530 mkahn has. Otherwise, the steps are the same. Have fun...

My daughters update CD came, and she loaded it. When the disk autoran, it prompted her to choose from 'lower 48' or Canada, Alaska, Hawaii. She chose lower 48, and it loaded to her GPSr fine. This process did NOT install Mapinstall or any other Garmin software onto her PC. I wanted to put the rest of the maps onto the SD card, so I went to work...
First, I wanted to get Mapinstall onto the PC. To do this, I

• Loaded up the 2008 DVD
• I cancelled the installation
• I opened 'my computer' and selected to explore the DVD
• I went to: \windows\msi and ran CNNT2008Update_ENU.msi

This installed Mapinstall onto her PC and put the shortcut on her desktop. However when I ran it, it told me that the 2008 maps were present, but locked. I needed to unlock them, but I could not find her unlock code. She did not remember having one for 2008. I found the unlock code on her GPSr. To do that,

• I went back to my computer and opened the drive letter for the GPSr (not the SD card)
• I went to \garmin and found a file ending in .unl
• I copied that file and pasted it on her C:\ directory
• I opened that .unl file with notepad.exe
• There in front of me was the entire unlock code

I copied the code into the clipboard, and went back to Mapinstall. When prompted, I pasted the code in, and voila! the maps were unlocked.
From there, it was a simple matter to select the missing maps and install them on her SD card.

(On a side note, I tested the maps by requesting a route to Saskatoon. Worked fine, but I forgot to cancel it. When my daughter left to go meet her friend, she called me back and asked me why her GPS was trying to make her drive to Canada. I pictured her just following along blindly, and then calling me from Saskatoon, saying she had no idea how she got there. I hurt myself laughing at the image.)

As Larry the Cable Guy would say, "Now that's funny, I don't care who u-r" LOL

I received my Map Update 2008 DVD today and I installed the USA on the GPRs and the Canadian provinces on my SD Card by following the Redbarber way of doing it, as I do not have MapSource. It worked fine.
Many thanks, Redbarber.

I posted the following in another area on this site:

c330 2008 map update
I have just finished installing ALL of the Map Update 2008 City Navigator North America NT on my Garmin C330. Once I got my head around what was actually happening, I'd like to outline the procedure.

The 2008 CD installs a program called "MapInstall" on your computer to be used later. Don't forget.

-Your are asked to select between Canada (incl. Alaska & northern border states) OR lower 49 states (incl. Puerto Rico), which replaces the map info in the C330.

-Now then, I have tried BOTH, but which one you load depends on what size of SD card you have, or want to buy. I can tell you that if you load the US/Puerto Rico map, you can put ALL of Canada on a 512 mb SD card. If you load Canada/Alaska, you can get away with a 1-gig SD card, but I had a 2-gig.

-At any rate, after loading your map, you will go to the program "MapInstall". Do NOT put the SD card in your GPS, but make sure it's on & the USB cable attached. I have a Lexar USB SD card reader. When you start MapInstall, you will see both devices. Select the "Removable disk". You then have to select each state or province individually to 'create' your 'secondary' map. It's easier to zoom in a bit on the North American map. When your selection is done, you send the info to the SD card in the USB reader. This takes some time, about 45 minutes to an hour.

When it's finished, remove the SD card from the reader & install it in the slot of the GPS. That's all there is. You do NOT have to select either map. You end up with a seamless North American/Puerto Rico map just like before. You'd never know that you had changed anything. All your previous waypoints etc are there.

Like I said, I loaded Canada to the GPS, then the US to the SD card. I just selected my friend's place in Lake Worth Florida as a destination. I touched "Show Map" before Go! and voila, there it was, 2485.1 km away. I then removed the SD card and the mapping goes away. Stick it in & you're back in business. I don't know why I'd want to take it out from now on. I download the Florida waypoint from MapSource, so your POi's must be on the GPS proper.

Since I only have the Canadian map on the GPS itself, I've got room to store more POi's than this website can provide!

Your map update suggestions work like a charm, a big thank you!!!

Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to just load all the V-2008 maps on the SD card instead of installing the 48 states on the unit and Canada on the SD card and keep the existing maps on the C-530 that came with it. Has anyone treid this? It seems if you can load the Canada Maps on the SD card and they work why can't you load all the maps on them. Anyone's input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

I had the same experience with the StreetPilot I5.
I assume that I can do the same thing. If I download MapInstall to my computer and update my SD Card with Canada, I hopefully can have all of North America in my GPS. I currently have a 1GB Micro SD Card plugged in and have a number of POI Files from POI-Factory and some that I have also created.
Any info would be appreciated.

Len

I also tried the Redbarber method and it worked like a charm. I now have all of North America on my StreetPilot I5 seamlessly. I dowloaded the United States to my Garmin, all of Canada is on my SD card and you can travel from the United States to Canada and back with no problems at all. I also zoomed in on the map of Toronto, Ontario and there were all the streets.
Thanks again Redbarber for the help.

Len

Just received my 2008 map updates yesterday and installed them on my c530 exactly the way REDBARBER explained. It worked out perfectly. I would have gone crazy trying to find out how to install Mapinstall and more important on how to find the unlock code. But thanks to his instructions the installation went off perfectly and everything is working great. Thanks REDBARBER!

Been trying to get a copy of mapsource out of Garmin Europe with no joy. Used Redbarbers method of saving maps to PC from my NA NT 2008 Update disk and found I had also gained Mapsource and Mapinstall. Had it all the time!?
Thanks Redbarber.

Nuvi370, Ireland