Electric Car registration fee Pennsylvania

 

Apparently not enough electric vehicle owners are voluntarily sending in the alternative fuel tax so Senator Rothman wants to get rid of the tax and tack a fee of $380 per noncommercial electric vehicle and $450 per commercial electric vehicle onto the registration.

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In the near future, I plan to introduce legislation that will eliminate the alternative fuel tax on electric vehicles and replace it with an electric vehicle fee of $380 per noncommercial electric vehicle and $450 per commercial electric vehicle. These fees will be concurrent with the respective individual*s vehicle registration, as registration of an electric vehicle will not be completed until the fee is paid.

Currently, owners of electric vehicles file monthly statements with the PA Department of Revenue and remit the alternative fuel tax on how much electricity their vehicle uses. However, most electric vehicle owners do not do this, or are inconsistent at doing so, due to the process for remitting the alternative fuel tax being cumbersome. In addition, many electric vehicle owners are not aware they are required to file a monthly statement to the PA Department of Revenue.

This legislation will simplify the process and ensure electric vehicle owners are paying their fair share towards the Commonwealth*s transportation infrastructure, just as individuals who drive gas powered vehicles contribute towards fuels taxes. The revenue from the fee will be deposited into the Motor License Fund for highway maintenance and construction.

Please consider supporting this important legislation.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/billinfo.cfm?s...

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One of the side effects of having an EV

Drivers of EV’s don’t pay highway use taxes through the purchase of gasoline or diesel, therefore, they are not paying for the maintenance of the roads that they are driving on. The government is going to have some way to get revenue to pay for new construction and maintenance of the current roadways. Just think; if everyone goes to electric vehicles, how will they pay for new construction and maintenance unless taxes are imposed on their use?

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Are you surprised

Are you surprised politicians have not thought about and acted on this problem LONG ago when the first hybrids (Prius) and EVs (Tesla) hit the market???? When was that.......12/10/1997. Duh, 26 years ago. Let's not be proactive -- let's wait till we have a full blown fire to react. Doing things to prevent fires creates no accolades or atta boy awards.
Ask me how I know.

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maddog67 wrote:

Drivers of EV’s don’t pay highway use taxes through the purchase of gasoline or diesel, therefore, they are not paying for the maintenance of the roads that they are driving on. The government is going to have some way to get revenue to pay for new construction and maintenance of the current roadways. Just think; if everyone goes to electric vehicles, how will they pay for new construction and maintenance unless taxes are imposed on their use?

See my reply to ruggb below

ruggb wrote:

Are you surprised politicians have not thought about and acted on this problem LONG ago when the first hybrids (Prius) and EVs (Tesla) hit the market???? When was that.......12/10/1997. Duh, 26 years ago. Let's not be proactive -- let's wait till we have a full blown fire to react. Doing things to prevent fires creates no accolades or atta boy awards.
Ask me how I know.

They did think of it, sort of, they imposed a tax people are supposed to figure out based on home charging and voluntarily send the tax in to the state to make up for not paying at the pump. The bill addresses the fact that not everyone is playing by the honor system so the forced fee or you don't get a current registration card.

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This is just the beginning of that slippery slope for electric 'everything'.

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Poor Timing

Now is not the time to promote this bill with the current slump in EV sales.

Yes, everyone needs to pay their fair share for road maintenance but this fixed tax will penalize those who don't do a lot of driving.

My wife, for example, puts less than 4K miles per year on her sub compact ICE vehicle. She pays around $80 per year in gasoline taxes. If we replaced her car with an EV, this proposed tax would cost us an additional $300 per year.

We were considering an EV to replace her car next year but we will probably not do so until this tax situation is finalized.

At one point, someone proposed a use tax for EV's. It would be based on miles driven and recorded during the annual vehicle inspection. The service station doing the inspection would either collect the tax
or forward the mileage reading to the state.

To me, this seems like a fairer way to impose such a tax.

Mileage plus weight

bdhsfz6 wrote:

At one point, someone proposed a use tax for EV's. It would be based on miles driven and recorded during the annual vehicle inspection. The service station doing the inspection would either collect the tax
or forward the mileage reading to the state.

To me, this seems like a fairer way to impose such a tax.

That has the merit of simplicity, for states that have an annual inspection. I think it could be made even better, while still only relying on available data, by making it related both to mileage and to vehicle weight.

Weight is imperfect in capturing the big differences in road damage, but has the advantage that the GWV is right there in the registration data. It would seem fair that a Leaf or a Prius travelling low mileage should pay a lot less than than an electric F-150 or Cybertruck putting in 35,000 miles a year.

Decades ago the 1950s era road tax system included weight-related charges for heavy trucks, so this is not a new idea.

By the way I'm a current Tesla owner, and a former Prius owner, and support the idea of usage-related taxation supporting road work.

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personal GPS user since 1992

telematics

I have a powerful disdain for telematics in cars. It isn’t anyone’s business (Ford etc.,,, you listenin’?) if I’m going to synagogue or a proud babies meeting.

If there were non-abusive telematics in cars then that would be the obvious answer to report mileage.

I should have mentioned in my previous post…

…that Ohio started charging EV owners an additional fee a few years ago. I could be wrong on this but I think they assess hybrid owners $100.00 a year and fully electric vehicles $200.00 per year. I guess they thought that they were forward looking.

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With God, all things are possible. ——State motto of the Great State of Ohio

electric

isnt more people using more electric going to raise electricity prices ! so every body is going to have to pay more because we will overload the system , so they have to increase the creation of electricity somehow ! are we also going to have a rate increase for land fills to dispose of the batteries, we cant build more dams does that mean more nuclear plants, solar panels create more problems with disposing spent panels . we are good at inventing things with out thinking about the garbage we also create that we dont want!

so much is not thought

ruggb wrote:

Are you surprised politicians have not thought about and acted on this problem LONG ago when the first hybrids (Prius) and EVs (Tesla) hit the market???? When was that.......12/10/1997. Duh, 26 years ago. Let's not be proactive -- let's wait till we have a full blown fire to react. Doing things to prevent fires creates no accolades or atta boy awards.
Ask me how I know.

Of today, because as a general rule, folks don't think if it can be avoided.

As far as car registrations, here in SE PA, folks can have no reggie, no insurance, no license, illegible plate, 5% tints, and drive around freely. No different than when people steal from a major pharmacy, the store has been instructed to not interfere with the exit of said shopper and the shrink. I don't think anyone really worries whether there are paying to use the infrastructure or not.

How proactive were govt entities to the blinding headlights of the typical 2023 motor vehicle? There are lots of fish to fry imho and this is not worth the effort. Why not make the fee $1000, so it's a round number lol