utility prices

 

It looks like electricity is up 31%, and natural gas 50%.

Health care was only up like 3% lol

Where I think many overlook that, is if the employer maintained their % of the contribution. Often times they lower it over time, such as the last 10 years (for example our house doubled in the 2020 assessment and taxes went up < $25/yr.--BUT the county taxes went up 7%, while school and township taxes actually went down).

Good thing my annual raise and bonus more than covers the above.

p.s.--that was sarcasm!

Medicare Part B is going up 14.1% next year

Looks like Medicare Part B is taking a big jump next year due to Congress keeping the increase low last year and the fact that they are going to start covering an Alzheimer’s drug that costs over $50,000 a year. This is a drug that testing has been inconclusive on and when it was approved, three members of the panel quit in protest.

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Back in early summer, locked

Back in early summer, locked in an electrical supply rate of 6.09¢/kwh from https://energyharbor.com . This is about .5-1¢/kwh than the utility. Their best rate now is 7.59¢/kwh. It's a 3 year agreement with no etf. Figure it should save about $70-100/yr, maybe more if they keep raising the rate. That's the best supply rate i've seen in quite some time.

Current util rate is 7.277¢/kwh so this third party supplier would not be a good idea at this time.

Wish I could get a good deal on nat gas prices.. They're crazy high. SO much so that we're keeping the thermostat at 67 during winter (chicago), vs 68-69 as in prior years.

Edit. Gas prices are 68¢/therm now... a year ago, 23 cents!

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And there is nothing we can do about it.

I Just Locked In $0.599/Therm Price For Natural Gas

About this time last year I entered into a one-year contract with my natural gas marketer at the rate of $0.449/therm that ends 12/01/2021. The current price for natural gas to re-up a one-year contract with my current marketer is $0.669/therm so I searched around to find a better price.

A couple of days ago I entered into a new 2-year contract to begin on 12/01/2021 with a different natural gas marketer at the rate of $0.599/therm.

Two months ago natural gas prices were a lot less expensive but most natural gas marketers in Georgia are currently in the range of $0.72/therm for a one-year contract price according to the mailers I've been getting in the mail and Internet searches.

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I haven't really looked at

I haven't really looked at my electricity bill in awhile due to autopay. But wow it went up! Gotta quit using these high power GPUs

that's

zx1100e1 wrote:

Back in early summer, locked in an electrical supply rate of 6.09¢/kwh from https://energyharbor.com . This is about .5-1¢/kwh than the utility. Their best rate now is 7.59¢/kwh. It's a 3 year agreement with no etf. Figure it should save about $70-100/yr, maybe more if they keep raising the rate. That's the best supply rate i've seen in quite some time.

Current util rate is 7.277¢/kwh so this third party supplier would not be a good idea at this time.

Wish I could get a good deal on nat gas prices.. They're crazy high. SO much so that we're keeping the thermostat at 67 during winter (chicago), vs 68-69 as in prior years.

Edit. Gas prices are 68¢/therm now... a year ago, 23 cents!

What I locked at, 7.6 cents for 12 mos no ETF, higher than the local which is 7.
0x. Why...well the local is only good until 2/28/22.

This summer, however, I was at 5.6 so I guess I wasn't looking to increase my charges during peak, and actually, not even thinking about it...in reality no matter how it's sliced we're talking about $3/mo....I do care as the % stands out...

If prices rise, I'll be better off as you are when you made your switch, if prices fall, I'll switch before summer...

Bad Decisions Leading to Higher Energy Costs

Just a couple of years ago the US had an abundance of energy and was not dependent on outside sources for it. Now pipelines have been shut down and oil production has lessened resulting in higher costs for energy and fuel. Now when you go to the store, food is at least 30% higher and many other items have risen in costs due to the higher price of fuel. There is enough oil and energy in the US to make the country self-sufficient, but it is not being utilized properly. Most of the people in the US who are not getting a hand out are paying the price by having to dig deeper in their pockets in order to buy needed consumables.

I wonder which bad decisions you are talking about

panama wrote:

Just a couple of years ago the US had an abundance of energy and was not dependent on outside sources for it. Now pipelines have been shut down and oil production has lessened resulting in higher costs for energy and fuel. Now when you go to the store, food is at least 30% higher and many other items have risen in costs due to the higher price of fuel. There is enough oil and energy in the US to make the country self-sufficient, but it is not being utilized properly. Most of the people in the US who are not getting a hand out are paying the price by having to dig deeper in their pockets in order to buy needed consumables.

I wonder which bad decisions you are talking about. The world-wide price of petroleum is indeed high. Is it the OPEC cartel? The rumors (now policy discussion) of the US dipping into the petroleum reserves instantly affected world oil prices.

In Southern California

we are reducing our power costs by taking advantage of our particular circumstances. The power company offers a plan that charges more for power between 4PM and 9PM, but less for power at all other hours.

We live within a mile of the ocean, so we almost never turn on air conditioning and our power usage is low from 4PM to 9PM. At night my wife, who is VERY cold-blooded, runs a couple of space heaters in the bedroom while the rest of the house is unheated. The variable rate plan saves US money compared to the flat rate plan, although it might not work for other people elsewhere.

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This thread prompted me to

This thread prompted me to research 3rd party gas suppliers. I'm happy to report I found a good deal with energyharbor.com. 56.9¢/therm for 4 years fixed, no etf. Im hopeful rates will drop sooner than that, but at least for the short term i'll be paying less than the 68¢/therm the utility is charging.

This is the same company we've had as electrical supplier for the last 2 years, currently at 6.09¢/kwh for 3 years from July of this year. Beats the 7.2-7.7¢/kwh util is charging.

Heating oil in Maine

Maine, which relies heavily on heating oil, is really struggling with heating oil prices. Last week, the average cost of heating oil in Maine was $3.16 per gallon according to the governor's office. Last year, it was $1.90. They are forecasting that heating oil prices will increase to almost $3.50 per gallon by next year. That folks, is inflation.

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Really?

minke wrote:

I wonder which bad decisions you are talking about.

That would be the decisions of the current administration. You know, the "New Green Deal" one...

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How did that affect ...

Juggernaut wrote:
minke wrote:

I wonder which bad decisions you are talking about.

That would be the decisions of the current administration. You know, the "New Green Deal" one...

Perhaps you can help me to understand. I don't wish to make my request onerous. What I'm hoping for are simple answers and hopefully I can jump thru hoops myself to fill in the blanks.

Has the Green New Deal started yet? What has already changed? How did that affect the worldwide price of petroleum?

interesting

zx1100e1 wrote:

This thread prompted me to research 3rd party gas suppliers. I'm happy to report I found a good deal with energyharbor.com. 56.9¢/therm for 4 years fixed, no etf. Im hopeful rates will drop sooner than that, but at least for the short term i'll be paying less than the 68¢/therm the utility is charging.

This is the same company we've had as electrical supplier for the last 2 years, currently at 6.09¢/kwh for 3 years from July of this year. Beats the 7.2-7.7¢/kwh util is charging.

Not sure if we can lock that long in PA, I've never seen greater than 12 months. Like anything else, normally, there is a risk factor incorporated into long term agreements (just like interest rates). With most of the agreements not having a etf or monthly fee, I would be willing to take that rate if it were available...

I periodically check rates

I periodically check rates for electricity too. We were at 6.59 or 6.69¢/kwh since june of 2020. I happened to be looking at rates for whatever reason back in july and saw the 6.09¢/kwh. Put the request in right away to get switched over. That was for a 3 yr term.

I don't think the locale dictates the term length (or shouldn't). More so the supplier does. Their best rate right now is 7.59 for 36 months. This does not compare favorably with the utility rate at 7.277¢/kwh. It's a bit of a cat and mouse game. Unfortunately, switching can take a cycle or two, so it's not so easy to jump back and forth.

Not Utilities...

The utilities are high but it's actually the cost of gasoline that's killing us here in California.

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what changed

Everything seemed so well under control not that long ago. I wonder what changed?

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I'm sorry for your

I'm sorry for your misunderstanding. The pipelines that were shut down were to transport oil from CANADA to the Gulf for export. There was no benefit to US.

california

California mandated more and more Green Power

for a 4 bedroom, electricity was $75 when we all used 100 Watt were incandescent bulbs...

then we switched to Fluorescent.. damn spirals full of mercury...

and now Low power LED

Power went from $75 to $150

In 2022 with the new mandates... Power will be up another 60%

Windmills
Solar
$5.50 for gas last weekend...

Don't need inflation to kill us... the Green mandates are already doing that