Windows 11 available on October 5

Windows Update shows it available for my Surface Pro.

So far all I have received is the following message. Great news—your PC meets the minimum system requirements for Windows 11. Specific timing for when it will be offered can vary as we get it ready for you.

I just installed it-using the windows 11 update assistant-no problems so far. Apps seem to respond faster than with Win 10.

Good to hear. I was thinking about doing the same thing. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows11?...

Edit Used the update assistant with no problems and it does respond faster. So far so good. Was worried I may lose my shell start button, but it is still there. Doesn't appear to be a big learning curve on new Windows 11.

You have other options beside the installation assistant. Installation media and disk image(ISO) available too.

Disappointed my processor is too old.

Thanks for the info.Will try to upgrade.

Iso available for dl.

https://tb.rg-adguard.net/public.php

https://i.imgur.com/XQYVGCi.png

Note, the site doesn't host any of the iso's, rather the generates proper links to microsoft.

This Windows 11 really working well so far. None of my security setting seem to have changed. Coming from Windows 10 over to 11 presents no big learning curve.

Of my two laptops, the newer one told me it is not able to take Windows 11.

I found out that you may have to make some changes.
Click start button, then in the box type "msinfo32" without quotation marks, hit enter.

A system summary will pop up.
Now search for
"Bios mode" It should read 'UEFI"
Next look for "Secure boot state" It should read "ON"

If you have to change the BIOS mode "UEFI", be aware that may require a complete new OS installation, so may not be worth your while.
To change the "Secure boot state" check how your computer has you enter the BIOS setup. This has to be changed in the BIOS setup. Some have you tap either F2, F8 or F10 to enter the BIOS while booting up.

For instance in my DELL in the BIOS you navigate to GENERAL, then to ADVANCED BOOT OPTIONS and there uncheck "Enable Legacy Option Rom. Then click APPLY at the bottom.

You should also download the "Windows PC health Check up setup" from Microsoft.

Windows 11 also requires "TPM" (Trusted Platform Module) to be on. In my Dell it does not have TPM in the BIOS setting but it has a "PTT" setting. It is essentially the same as TPM but a cheaper version. So in the BIOS enable PTT and the Windows Update checker happily reports the system is able to take Windows 11 !

BTW: My 2 year old Dell will be updatable but my 5 year old Gateway is not.

Good luck all

Of my 3 PCs still in use, one is too old with a 2015 CPU I got new in 2017 and no TPM 2.0 support, one meets the hardware requirements, and the other may or may not be able to run Win 11, per Microsoft.

But I don't rush in to these things and am blocking Win 11 for now. Thanks to those volunteering as cannon fodder to find any bugs needing squashing. I'm glad it's going well for those here.

For anyone having issues, it's okay to publicly identify issues but please refrain from whining. You asked for it. It's like the people who buy tax software upon release in December and then complain in reviews that it's incomplete and buggy. Uh... yeah! The IRS hasn't even put out all the forms in December.

I think this time next year would be a good time to upgrade if one really wants to.

Running the system now seems to be Ok no problems, I'll be installing the apps that are use daily will see how it goes after its all done.

... I have an AMD Ryzen processor and apparently there are a couple of issues with them in regards to W11. Looks like they are hoping to have a fix for that by the end of this month, so I'll wait until they get that sorted out.

Doesn't this surprise me?

I'll pass.

Every W10 update seems to make my T420 run slower and slower.
My 8 year old HP desktop takes even longer to boot up now.

And yes, I know hardware is not meant to last forever, but I got to wonder if MS is trying to code out anything older than 5+ years.

So, I'm done playing the "oh gosh, new OS, let's get excited" game.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-windows-11-slows-cpus-...

I am currently updating to win 11 with the installation assistant software. My widows did not show update to win11 was available for me, but I couldn't resist trying the installation assistant. I built my pc (intel processor-based) this year, so I hope everything will run smoothly fine.

No.

Learned the hard way not to be a .0.

I can wait for 11.1 or later.

Not even sure if/why there is a need for Windows 11.

NO, but I d/ manually

there is a video for that on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1sD66wx3Dw
worked for me.
It is a little hard to see exactly what he is doing but in a nutshell,
You download a W10 image and a W11 image, create a W10 usb drive and a W11 USB drive, then copy all files in the SOURCES folder EXCEPT install.esd and the folders VISTA and XP.
There are instructions on doing all the above if you do not know how.
The USB sticks must be at least 8GB.
The images are available on an MS sight.
You can also open the W10 ISO file with UltraISO or similar app and just copy from there. Probably easier that way.

If it is indeed running slower and not just a perception because you are comparing it to newer equipment there are a couple of things you can do that might bring it back.
FIRST, open a CMD window and run CHKDSK C: and on all your drives/partitions.
then run SFC /SCANNOW

If it reports issues it could not fix you will have to run
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

Then look at what is in your startup and remove anything you do not use. This will take a little research since some of the things that load at startup are required even if you do not use them.

No I'm comparing it to the existing piece of equipment.

thanks for the DOS posting. I remember chkdsk but did not the other.
Thanks

https://www.windowscentral.com/hidden-changes-you-may-have-m...

I, too, have an HP laptop and degraded performance has not been a problem at all. On the contrary, the last couple of Win 10 updates has actually seems to have improved the performance.
First of all, starting from a power up is not slower by any metric. It starts up from a power off/power on at least as quickly as it always has. Second of all, I've notice absolutely no slow down with the Web or any app. Where I noticed performance difference is on power off. My HP laptop has an SDD, and used to take about 15- 20 seconds to completely power off. After the latest couple of Win 10 updates, power offs seem to take 5-10 seconds to power down. There's nothing scientific to prove my observations, but just me noticing how quickly my computer powers down.

Phil

guess I am going the way of windows 7. nothing I got will run 11 so just going to stay with 10 and put in another 10 years or so and then throw everything into the trash heap and say the hell with all computers.

What CPU do you have? Mine is a 5-5600X and I have not tried it yet.

Yes, the HP I installed W11 on does seem to boot faster than it did with W10. It is running a WD Scorpio Black HDD which is a faster drive than the std 5400RPM units.

You probably can still update to W10 for free. I would definitely recommend that.
And if you really want to try to go to W11 my post above may work for you.
But I would try W10 first as I do not like the new W11 start menu as I can't customize it the way I did W10.
W11 also required more mouse movement and clicks to do the same thing as W10.
To me, that is moving backward, not forward.
My HP update is a test computer. Unless I can find a way to get a diff start menu I will probably stay with W10. It is good till 2025.

Used an online tool to see if my laptop is good to go with windows 11. It said everything is fine. However, I will still wait. I'm not really all that unhappy with Windows 10. Heck, I haven't even gotten around to installing the latest map updates on my nüvis. I imagine that one of these days I will probably make the move to Windows 11 but, for now at least, I will stick with what I have.

Have you tried the Open Shell Start Tab. You can get the old windows look. https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/classic_start.html

My update trigger is generally when I get an EOL message from Microsoft. Got a bit of time still. Operating system performance is so far down the list of things that matter!

Just downloaded the latest update KB5006674

Same here on KB5006674 2021-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems. Plus NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 11 for x64 (KB5005537) and Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.94 (KB890830)

The last few times I went into Win 10's settings/update & security I've found a message from MS that says

"This PC can run Windows 11.

"Great news-your PC meets the minimum system requirements for Windows 11. Specific timing for when it will be offered can vary as we get it ready for you.

"Note: Some windows 10 features aren't available in Windows 11. Certain apps and features may have additional requirements."

Phil

My PC's latest update is KB5006670 which became available just yesterday, 10/12.

October 12, 2021—KB5006670 (OS Builds 19041.1288, 19042.1288, and 19043.1288)

Phil

So far no new drivers updates. HP Printer/scanner was good to go.

No TPM chip,so no upgrade avail. here.

Rufus can help.

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/10/11/disable-tpm-secure-boot-an...

I've used this utility for years to create bootable flash drives from various iso/img files.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_(software)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Yes, lesson learned.

I just restored my last W7 backup on the HP desktop that was upgraded to W10 earlier this year. This machine rarely goes on the internet. I am sick-and-tired of every W10 update causing it to run slower and slower.

I don't need or want all the apps/crap installed by default for W10, and now I see there's even more for W11. No Thanks.

I will wait until I get a new PC.

Ever windows installation (from scratch/iso) I do, I apply this script;

https://community.spiceworks.com/scripts/show/4378-windows-1...

It removes a bunch of garbage that is mostly unused. You might want to give it a look. The oldest pc here with win10 has a 6th gen i5 or higher cpu. Win10 works well on those pc's once you optimize it. I don't use the start menu often. Most of the common programs are on the task bar (2 rows, 32" monitor).

For test/experimentation, I spin up a windows vm.

PC Decrapifier

https://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

KB5006670 on Windows 10 breaks printing. I does not recognize my shared network printers anymore. Does it do the same on Windows 11?

I removed that KB and I can print like before now. Here comes the fun part, Microsoft updates will continue to auto install. I paused it for 35 days but at some point I will have printing problem again.

I noticed that my laptop loaded faster with Windows 11 then when I had Windows 10. https://www.technipages.com/windows-11-is-faster-than-window...

Some interesting information included in the article. How to Enable Sleeping Tabs in Microsoft Edge Browser. https://www.prajwaldesai.com/sleeping-tabs-in-microsoft-edge...

I found that win 11 is not detecting my HP printer. It used to detect with I had win 10. I think its the driver issue. Now my only option is to use the printer to a win 10 laptop, since I don't want to go back to win 11 on my PC. Also, Some commons settings are now difficult to find. I can search for those but still need time to adjust to this new system.

Why not just reinstall the driver? Will win11 accept it?

Windows 11 will not work on many computers due to processor demands. This spec will force many people to abandon their current computers for a newer model. Windows 10 works fine for me.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...