Outlook 2010

 

So now I've found out that Outlook 2010 support will end on October 13, 2020. That's nowhere near as bad as Win 7 support ending.

Fortunately I have a legal install disc for Office 2016. Since I am now retired, I no longer have access to the "Home Use" program Microsoft offers to companies that have a "Site License" for their products. I was able to purchase Office 2016 (Pro Plus full version) for $19.95 USD. Plus $10.00 for a backup disc. I will be installing it before October.

I guess when 2016 support ends, I'll just have to live with it. Of course that will probably be around 2026. Lots of time to decide what to do. LOL

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Heck, I'm still using Office

Heck, I'm still using Office Professional Hybrid 2007 on W10.
Can't remember the last time I used Outlook tho.

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where?

Metricman, where did you purchase this for such a low price? A quick Google search shows a mishmosh of different versions of Office. One reviewer said the software was for the Eurozone only!

dobs108 smile

What is t Outlook 2010 support?

metricman wrote:

So now I've found out that Outlook 2010 support will end on October 13, 2020. That's nowhere near as bad as Win 7 support ending.

Fortunately I have a legal install disc for Office 2016. Since I am now retired, I no longer have access to the "Home Use" program Microsoft offers to companies that have a "Site License" for their products. I was able to purchase Office 2016 (Pro Plus full version) for $19.95 USD. Plus $10.00 for a backup disc. I will be installing it before October.

I guess when 2016 support ends, I'll just have to live with it. Of course that will probably be around 2026. Lots of time to decide what to do. LOL

Ever asked yourself what is Outlook support? Personally in all my years of using the product, probably close to 30 years, I have never needed to call or log a case with Microsoft. I am currently using Outlook 2007 on one PC and it works fine. There are by the way Office updates that incorporate numerous fixes and security updates. When you do an Office update from any product, say Word, Excel, Powerpoint, then all installed Office products are updated.

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The support will end but the product continues. I'm still using word 2007 and Frontpage 2003. All's good

Yep, Support is calling MS

Yep, Support is calling MS on the phone for help.

Never used Support, but the updates keep on coming. So the 2007 product is still good.

Can't seeing buying a new version just for Support. Maybe if it was a feature I needed then I would buy another.

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Office 2003

dbusguy wrote:

The support will end but the product continues. I'm still using word 2007 and Frontpage 2003. All's good

Still happily using Office 2003. Word,Excel & Outlook & Windows 10.

Works great. Don't need any fancy stuff.

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KenSny wrote:

Yep, Support is calling MS on the phone for help.

Never used Support, but the updates keep on coming. So the 2007 product is still good.

To me support is security patches that Microsoft releases every 2nd Tuesday of the month.

I don't know how you keep getting Office 2007 updates. There have been no more patches for Office 2007 for a while now.

Home Use

dobs108 wrote:

Metricman, where did you purchase this for such a low price? A quick Google search shows a mishmosh of different versions of Office. One reviewer said the software was for the Eurozone only!
dobs108 smile

As I explained in my post, customers with a "Site License" may be eligible to use the MS "Home Use" programs. Companies that have a "Site License" are companies with lots of computers running MS software. MS offers employees of those companies huge discounts on the same software that the companies use at their site. You have to log in to the special MS site, enter a code and pay by CC. MS then sends an email to your work email (must be your work email or no go) with the D/L instructions and a code for downloading. You then forward that email to your Home email and D/L the software at home. You can also order a back-up disc.

Go to Google and type in:

Microsoft Home Use Program

You will get plenty of info. But remember, you will only be able to buy the software that your company has a license for. I don't know what number of PCs qualifies a company for this.

If you work for a large corporation that has a couple of hundred PCs running MS software, then search your internal website for "Home Use" or contact your IT folks.

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Frontpage

dbusguy wrote:

The support will end but the product continues. I'm still using word 2007 and Frontpage 2003. All's good

Of course, support for Frontpage ended a long time ago. And any Office Upgrade will uninstall Frontpage - which infuriated the daylight out of me.

There is a "Free" upgrade that is really Frontpage that is enhanced. It is called "Microsoft Expression Web". I like it better than Frontpage. But of course, there is no longer any support for it.

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I used support at work

John from PA wrote:

Ever asked yourself what is Outlook support? Personally in all my years of using the product, probably close to 30 years, I have never needed to call or log a case with Microsoft. I am currently using Outlook 2007 on one PC and it works fine. There are by the way Office updates that incorporate numerous fixes and security updates. When you do an Office update from any product, say Word, Excel, Powerpoint, then all installed Office products are updated.

I had a problem with Word's "numbering" pertaining to "Appendixes". Took a long time to get MS to understand that something in the code changed and screwed up how Appendixes worked. My company had strict rules about numbering procedures. I retired before the issue was resolved.

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So much for the value of

So much for the value of "Support".

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Some Office products still get security & reliability updates

"Support" for Windows of various levels is different than support for perpetual Office products. Quoting from https://www.zdnet.com/article/when-will-microsoft-pull-the-p...

Quote:

Microsoft continues to sell traditional versions of Office with a perpetual license. These products receive regular security and reliability updates but don't qualify for feature upgrades.

Here are the support dates for each current member of the Office family sold as a perpetual license product:

How long will Office 2016 be supported?

This is the current release of Office, with a support schedule that matches up perfectly with Windows 10.

Mainstream support ends: Oct. 13, 2020

Extended support ends: Oct. 14, 2025

How long will Office 2013 be supported?

The Office 2013 support schedule goes roughly three months past that of Windows 8.1. Note that support for the subscription version of Office 2013, which is part of Office 365 ProPlus, ends on Feb. 28, 2017.

Mainstream support ends: April 10, 2018

Extended support ends: April 11, 2023

How long will Office 2010 be supported?

Support for Office 2010 Service Pack 1 ended on Oct. 14, 2014. But with Service Pack 2 installed, you'll find this version still has a long extended support period ahead, with end-of-support dates that are nine months after those of Windows 7.

Mainstream support ends: No longer supported

Extended support ends: Oct. 13, 2020.

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Old Version

GPSgeek wrote:
dbusguy wrote:

The support will end but the product continues. I'm still using word 2007 and Frontpage 2003. All's good

Still happily using Office 2003. Word,Excel & Outlook & Windows 10.

Works great. Don't need any fancy stuff.

I too am using the FrontPage 2002 sp3 and Office 2003 versions w/o any problems. Not to worry!

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chewbacca wrote:

I don't know how you keep getting Office 2007 updates. There have been no more patches for Office 2007 for a while now.

Not that I really care if you believe me or not, but I can tell you this. And I can't give you the specific MS patch ID's because I am no longer on W7 and able to see the individual updates on W10. BUT on a semi-regular basis I WAS getting MS Office 2007 up;dates/fixes on Patch Tuesday as late as Fall of 2019.

I suppose if I was really motivated I could restore my last W7 backup, boot it up, and read through all the installed patches, but I'm not that motivated for extra work to fill my time with no real benefit to me.

PS: And the same thing goes for the Office 2013 on my desktop.

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Last Office 2007 update one year ago...

chewbacca wrote:

I don't know how you keep getting Office 2007 updates. There have been no more patches for Office 2007 for a while now.

According to the Microsoft update catalog, the last batch of updates for Office 2007 were issued on 2/7/2019, essentially a year ago. The list can be found at https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Offic.... Toggle the "Last Updated" column at the top to sort the list by oldest or newest.

People are known to confuse Windows Updates with Office updates.
With any Office product, if you have automatic updates enabled for Windows, then the appropriate Office product will also be updated. You may be told they are available, but you won't necessarily be told nothing is available. I also think, but I'm not certain, that if you manually initiate a Windows update, (as I did with Windows 10 a week ago) you will not get Office updates. After my most recent Windows 10 update, I had to go to an Office 2016 product and manually initiate the Office updates.

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John from PA

Last Outlook 2010 Update October 2019

There were 8 Outlook 2010 security and critical updates in 2019. The most recent was October 8.

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Thanks

chewbacca wrote:

Search product lifecycle
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search

Thanks for the link.

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KenSny wrote:

Not that I really care if you believe me or not, but I can tell you this. And I can't give you the specific MS patch ID's because I am no longer on W7 and able to see the individual updates on W10. BUT on a semi-regular basis I WAS getting MS Office 2007 up;dates/fixes on Patch Tuesday as late as Fall of 2019.

I suppose if I was really motivated I could restore my last W7 backup, boot it up, and read through all the installed patches, but I'm not that motivated for extra work to fill my time with no real benefit to me.

PS: And the same thing goes for the Office 2013 on my desktop.

If you are getting updates as late as Fall 2019, you weren't updating once a month. For the same reason someone can still get Office 2007 updates at the end of 2020 or at any time if they reinstall Office 2007 (and if Microsoft is still hosting the updates).

It does not matter what OS you are running, Win 7 or 10, Office is Office regardless of the OS it is installed and running on. No one is asking you to reinstall to find out.

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John from PA wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

I don't know how you keep getting Office 2007 updates. There have been no more patches for Office 2007 for a while now.

According to the Microsoft update catalog, the last batch of updates for Office 2007 were issued on 2/7/2019, essentially a year ago. The list can be found at https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Offic....

1st quarter of 2019 sounds about right. I manage WSUS (Windows Server Update Service) and have not seen Office 2007 updates for months.

John from PA wrote:

I also think, but I'm not certain, that if you manually initiate a Windows update, (as I did with Windows 10 a week ago) you will not get Office updates. After my most recent Windows 10 update, I had to go to an Office 2016 product and manually initiate the Office updates.

There's an option "Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional MS software when I update Windows". Enable that. You'll get Office updates and other MS product updates as well. Doesn't matter if you check for updates manually or Windows does it automatically. It'll show you updates if they're available.

Home use program is great

Not so interested in office 365

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Still using 2007 on W7-64 I

Still using 2007 on W7-64
I see no upgrades here

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schmidwr wrote:

Not so interested in office 365

Unlike Adobe (Photoshop), Microsoft still offers Office Pro 2019 for 1 time purchase (non subscription pricing):

Classic 2019 versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook, plus Publisher and Access
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/office-professional-2019/c...

There is nothing wrong with Office 2007, 2003 or older versions if you want to keep using them. It's just that you won't be able to open documents created with the latest Office suite.

Office 2007

I'm still using Office Professional 2007.

Office 2019 Pro Plus $99

If you are running Windows 10 it is possible to get a legal copy of Office Pro Plus 2019 for $100 vs. the Microsoft "list" price of $440. Go to https://indigosoftwarecompany.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAhJTyBRAvEiw... to see the offering.

The company Indigo Software is owned by a Marine in Texas (see https://indigosoftwarecompany.com/pages/about-us). I have used them on several occasions for Windows updates and Microsoft product updates.

One caveat, and I mentioned it up front, you must be running Windows 10.

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That's more than 75%

That's more than 75% discount. Smells fishy. I'm not saying they sell pirated software. They may be selling software keys designed for different group of users (eg: technet members) that allows multiple activations.

Someone bought Windows 10 Pro from them but was refunded when he/she can't activate it. I guess the key has reached the maximum number of activations.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcRetailers/comments/ecvx1e/indigos...

Worked well for my needs

chewbacca wrote:

That's more than 75% discount. Smells fishy. I'm not saying they sell pirated software. They may be selling software keys designed for different group of users (eg: technet members) that allows multiple activations.

Someone bought Windows 10 Pro from them but was refunded when he/she can't activate it. I guess the key has reached the maximum number of activations.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcRetailers/...

...about two years ago I bought a copy of Windows 7 Pro for an XP machine, then did the upgrade to Windows 10 that was allowed by MS. On another machine (Windows Vista for Business) I bought Win 10, I think about $50, trouble free install. Then installed Office 2016, again purchased from Indigo.

By the way Windows has a way to check if Windows has been legitimately activated. All report as OK.

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John from PA

The key may be authentic but

The key may be authentic but doesn't necessarily mean they can sell it. There used to be a lot of SQL, Exchange Server setup media on Ebay. They're all marked NFR (not for resale). Microsoft gives them away at a convention. It's an honor system but some people sell them anyway. I got one Windows 7 Ultimate NFR version back when Microsoft introduced Win 7 at a convention and I'm still using it today.

Thanks

John from PA wrote:

"Support" for Windows of various levels is different than support for perpetual Office products. Quoting from https://www.zdnet.com/article/when-will-microsoft-pull-the-p...

Quote:

Microsoft continues to sell traditional versions of Office with a perpetual license. These products receive regular security and reliability updates but don't qualify for feature upgrades.

Here are the support dates for each current member of the Office family sold as a perpetual license product:

How long will Office 2016 be supported?

This is the current release of Office, with a support schedule that matches up perfectly with Windows 10.

Mainstream support ends: Oct. 13, 2020

Extended support ends: Oct. 14, 2025

How long will Office 2013 be supported?

The Office 2013 support schedule goes roughly three months past that of Windows 8.1. Note that support for the subscription version of Office 2013, which is part of Office 365 ProPlus, ends on Feb. 28, 2017.

Mainstream support ends: April 10, 2018

Extended support ends: April 11, 2023

How long will Office 2010 be supported?

Support for Office 2010 Service Pack 1 ended on Oct. 14, 2014. But with Service Pack 2 installed, you'll find this version still has a long extended support period ahead, with end-of-support dates that are nine months after those of Windows 7.

Mainstream support ends: No longer supported

Extended support ends: Oct. 13, 2020.

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Outlook 2010 still works? (reliably)??

@metricman: Outlook 2010 is still working for you?? I haven't tried it lately but I gave up on it sometime around 2016/2017 because since about 2015 it had gotten increasingly buggy for me, forcing me several times a year to uninstall and reinstall it to be able to get and retain my email and address book.

Tired of the ongoing timesuck, I switched to Mozilla Thunderbird
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/download/

(free, with annual donations appreciated), which has performed reliably with the parts of Outlook 2010 that I needed. T-bird also has the bonus of having a similar user interface to Outlook 2010. You can transfer old emails from Outlook as well. I'm not missing Outlook 2010 at all; Thunderbird has been an upgrade.

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Outlook support

i have never used Outlook support.