First Long Range Trip With New Subaru In-Dash Nav

 

With our old Subaru we had a Garmin Nuvi 650, which we still have. Our new Subaru has an in-dash nav unit. The immediate problem faced with our trip, the in-dash nav unit did not have our Nuvi 650 "favorites" available and no-way (as far as I know) to pre-enter them. So we took the Nuvi with us.

Fortunately, when we stopped at one of our "favorites", we figured out how to save it into the in-dash unit. We also found out that the favorites subsequently appear on the in-dash screen, which was quite helpful.

One big advantage to the in-dash unit, is the ability to easily change the scale so that the entire route can be viewed. The Nuvi screen is too small and too sluggish for viewing an entire long range trip.

The big advantage of the Nuvi is that our "favorites" are keyed to our route and it is easier to locate (while driving) nearby facilities like fast food than the in-dash unit. The in-dash unit disables the keyboard while driving and it takes a lot of key strokes to access the pre-loaded categories like fast food.

As we do more more trips we should be able to get greater functionality out of the in-dash unit.

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Garmin Nuvi650 - Morehead City, NC

My built in

Pros:
Directions shut music off to be heard
Large screen

Cons:
Horribly expensive for map updates.
Not very intuitive to set up a route
Very, very difficult or nearly impossible to add way-points
Very difficult to set up a route using way-points
Difficult to even locate a local address for navigation

This is in a VW Passat car.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Night before

The night before a trip I load the POIs we are going to use for our route. I then select them in order and make our route. I then select go. I then turn off the power. The next morning when we start the car the navigation asked if we want to continue the route. I say yes and we are on our way.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

2017 Hyundai Azera

Melaqueman wrote:

Pros:
Directions shut music off to be heard
Large screen

Cons:
Horribly expensive for map updates.
Not very intuitive to set up a route
Very, very difficult or nearly impossible to add way-points
Very difficult to set up a route using way-points
Difficult to even locate a local address for navigation

This is in a VW Passat car.

Pros:
Music is muted whenever the system is giving directions.
Large screen.
Local addresses are fairly easy to enter and find.

Cons:
Map updates are $145.00. There were $160.00, so the prices
have dropped.
It is not very intuitive in setting up a route.
Can add two way-points; maximum.
Haven't yet figured out a way to set up a route using way-
points.
Sometimes the routes it gives are strange and will send you
out of your way or may send you into a cornfield; which it
has tried to do on occasion.
Streets are hard to see on the map. This issue has supposedly
been fixed in the new update.

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2019 Subaru Forester

maddog67 wrote:
Melaqueman wrote:

Sometimes the routes it gives are strange and will send you out of your way or may send you into a cornfield; which it has tried to do on occasion.

Coincidentally, just had this problem going to Wilmington, NC today. Instead of going to a downtown point, the in-dash nav unit sent us past Wilmington then brought us "back-up". Essentially a gigantic u-turn.

I will have to admit part of the problem was my fault. One should always change the scale so that the entire route can be seen. I would have seen that the route was screwed up. My Nuvi 650 did not make this mistake in our old car.

maddog67 wrote:
Melaqueman wrote:

Not very intuitive to set up a route. Very, very difficult or nearly impossible to add way-points.
Very difficult to set up a route using way-points Difficult to even locate a local address for navigation

This speaks to why, on my long trip, I brought the Nuvi 650 to navigate to my favorites and to then add them to the in-dash nav unit. Many of my established favorites do NOT have an address so you can't pre-enter them into the in-dash nav GPS.

Additionally, it is very difficult (while driving) to find nearby rest areas with the in-dash nav unit. With our Nuvi, the rest area POI file makes locating nearby rest area, while driving, a snap.

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Garmin Nuvi650 - Morehead City, NC

Good discussion

I am following this since at some point I may replace my current Forester with a newer one, mostly for the Eyesight and other safety things. The small number of pros for getting Subaru nav is nice but for me are greatly outweighed by the cost to update and limited interactions I can do with it (custom POIs with audio and icons, routes, etc.)

My greatest fear is that I'll really want some feature on the new car and that it is only available with also getting the nav option.

Good idea !

Steve R. wrote:

Very difficult to set up a route using way-points Difficult to even locate a local address for navigation

This speaks to why, on my long trip, I brought the Nuvi 650 to navigate to my favorites and to then add them to the in-dash nav unit. Many of my established favorites do NOT have an address so you can't pre-enter them into the in-dash nav GPS.

I'da never thunk of adding waypoints like that. Though being a solo driver would mean to pull over and stop to add to the onboard GPS which may be nigh impossible at times..
But that still does not address the waypoint additions before departure.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

Subaru Forester options and nav

CraigW wrote:

My greatest fear is that I'll really want some feature on the new car and that it is only available with also getting the nav option.

It is likely you can get almost any option without nav. Most of the better Forester trimlines, Sport, Touring, and Limited, come with an 8-inch multimedia screen that runs Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Only a few cars that are loaded with options come with nav.

It also depends on what the dealer has on the lot. I dealt with the largest dealer in the area with 400 Subarus in stock and bought the best car in the Premium (middle) trimline. All Premiums come with a 6.5-inch multimedia screen. I was not disappointed in the car! It is the best-equipped car I have ever owned.

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Android Auto in the 2019 Subaru Forester

See my adventures running Android Auto in the 2019 Subaru Forester:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/49770

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i have

Android auto in my new vehicle and I removed the app as it wasn't as good as the system that came with the vehicle. I don't use the Google Assistant and the options available in AA weren't as robust as those installed. Besides, it was a real battery drain and now I need to kill the darn thing in my phone as well.

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"In order to be old and wise, one first must have been young and stupid."

I've done it now...

dobs108 wrote:
CraigW wrote:

My greatest fear is that I'll really want some feature on the new car and that it is only available with also getting the nav option.

It is likely you can get almost any option without nav. Most of the better Forester trimlines, Sport, Touring, and Limited, come with an 8-inch multimedia screen that runs Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Only a few cars that are loaded with options come with nav.

It also depends on what the dealer has on the lot. I dealt with the largest dealer in the area with 400 Subarus in stock and bought the best car in the Premium (middle) trimline. All Premiums come with a 6.5-inch multimedia screen. I was not disappointed in the car! It is the best-equipped car I have ever owned.

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Well, I've done it now. Between needing a new battery soon, an upcoming 60k service, and the desire for all the Eyesight bells and whistles, I just signed away my 2014 Eyesightless Forester for a 2019 Eyesighted Crosstrek. I would have gone Forester again but I wanted no Navigation while also getting Rear Automatic Braking, and the Forester would only do RAB with Nav. So instead, I saved some money by going smaller to Crosstrek while avoiding Nav and even avoiding a moon roof. I just need to remember when I pick it up to duck my head to avoid a 'clunk' when I back in (the recommended way for hip replacement folks to enter a car) to the seat.

I do think this new car will be like buying a first PC or Smartphone in terms of learning curves. Luckily the dashboard tray looks like it'll be a great place for the new (non-bean bag) friction mount for my Garmin so there will be no GPS learning curve...and free contimuing lifetime map updates from Garmin!

Congratulations

CraigW wrote:

Well, I've done it now. Between needing a new battery soon, an upcoming 60k service, and the desire for all the Eyesight bells and whistles, I just signed away my 2014 Eyesightless Forester for a 2019 Eyesighted Crosstrek. I would have gone Forester again but I wanted no Navigation while also getting Rear Automatic Braking, and the Forester would only do RAB with Nav. So instead, I saved some money by going smaller to Crosstrek while avoiding Nav and even avoiding a moon roof. I just need to remember when I pick it up to duck my head to avoid a 'clunk' when I back in (the recommended way for hip replacement folks to enter a car) to the seat.

I do think this new car will be like buying a first PC or Smartphone in terms of learning curves. Luckily the dashboard tray looks like it'll be a great place for the new (non-bean bag) friction mount for my Garmin so there will be no GPS learning curve...and free contimuing lifetime map updates from Garmin!

I hope that your new Crosstrek turns out to be a much improved car. Retaining your current Garmin for navigation would appear to be a good decision.

Our 2019 Forester is a lot better than our 2014 Forester. Better ride, more horsepower and greater gas mileage. The in-dash navigation, though it has a nice big screen does not seem to be superior to the stand-alone Garmin that we have.

Pressing the wrong button with today's technology is simply too easy. Just remember don't accidentally press the wrong button as your car will then fall apart.smile

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Garmin Nuvi650 - Morehead City, NC