New Driver License ID law

Not for me!

This new Law did not start here in Ohio till July 1..

They are already 41 states that this New law Apply.

By 2020 all States will have this new ID law.

So this New law is coming soon in a State near you.

It's called Real ID in California. It is NOT mandatory to replace our ID with real ID. We can keep our current (non Real ID compliant) DL/ID. I don't plan to get a Real ID.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid

Do I Need a REAL ID?

The California DMV is offering two different types of cards, REAL ID Compliant DL/ID cards and Federal Non-Compliant DL/ID cards.

Personally I think it's a good idea. Might help to weed out the illegals, and I hope that the voter ID requirements change to encompass require this id.

Since I already have a valid U.S. Passport I intend to get the REAL ID driver's license in Ohio.

I'll get the new one, too.
Starting in 2020 if you want to enter a federal building or facility or go through TSA screening at an airport you'll be required to have a passport or the new driver license, up to you. The procedure for getting the non-compliant license remains the same as it has been. For the new license you'll require several documents that prove your residency, social security number, and proof of legal presence. Quite frankly it doesn't seem all that onerous to me. I guess it all depends on your future plans if you do or don't need the new format. Ohioans can get all the information at http://www.bmv.ohio.gov/NEWDL-ID/ .

Phil

Easier to identify the bad guys and scam artists. Most Countries have ID cards or booklets, be a lot simpler at Airports as they will know you've been checked out. You need the new ID or Passport Card to get back in from Mexico. Arizona didn't have the new ID License so we obtained the Passport Card just in case. It gets you thru Border Patrol Check Points a lot easier as they know its a real ID, be very difficult to forge.

The Real ID law was passed way back in 2005 so it's not a new law. What is occurring now is that for the states that originally didn't go along with offering Real ID-compliant drivers licenses, the absolute last date that a non-compliant license can be used to get through the TSA lines to board a flight is Oct 1, 2020 and folks are now realizing that they have a drivers license renewal coming up soon with the new license still valid after 10/1/20 so a decision to go for a non-compliant license now (meaning that after 10/1/20, a passport or other acceptable form of ID will be required to fly, or to go for a Real ID-compliant license allowing the drivers license to be used to get through TSA lines, etc.) Because several states didn't offer Real ID-compliant licenses at the get-go, things got complicated, especially when these states decided to offer them at a later date resulting in state-by-state extensions and these extensions will all end on 10/1/20.

You can read more about the Real ID law on wikipedia or your state MVD site. Arizona's is at:

https://www.azdot.gov/media/News/news-release/2017/01/05/ari...

where the link explains that a TSA date of 1/28/18 doesn't apply to Arizona licenses since Arizona was given an extension to 10/1/20.

My current AZ license is marked NOT FOR FEDERAL IDENTIFICATION but it expires this year when I will take the extra material needed to get a renewal with a Real ID license which will lose the Not For Fed ID statement and add a yellow star in its place. I believe that Arizona MVD offices are able to process and give you the new license on the spot so there's no need to having your old license returned with holes punched and a later mailing of the new license although it appears you need to make an appointment at your MVD office in advance for the process.

The important thing to remember when renewing a non-compliant license is to get your state's ID requirements for paperwork to bring with you if planning to get a compliant upgraded license. AZ requires four documents: one from Part A, one from Part B, and two from Part C (and more if you legally changed your name at some point):

https://azdot.gov/docs/default-source/mvd-forms-pubs/40-5144...

You are a lucky as are all our northern neighbors!

We can get an enhanced drivers licence for an extra $ 50.00 which you can use to enter the US of A as if it were a passport.

at least 15 years in Washington State when you renew. The new part is the REAL ID Act and some states have been S L O W to implement for political reasons. With the Feds now putting a drop dead date that you will need an enhanced license or a passport to board a domestic flight states are fixing something that should have never been a problem to implement years ago.

Real ID has been a law for years now as CraigW notes, but it's taken time for the states to get their systems ready for it, which is why you may not have heard too much about it until now.

In Massachusetts, Real ID has been a thing since March. At this time however, at least in the state of Massachusetts, it is not yet mandatory. Now, whether you choose to get a Real ID license or not depends on how often you have to enter Federal buildings or take domestic flights. If the answer is rarely or not at all, or you have a valid passport/passport card, then you can continue getting your normal license until Real ID becomes mandatory. Real ID will NOT be sufficient to cross into Canada or Mexico: a passport/passport card is still required.

Come 2020 - in Massachusetts - Real ID will be the only thing offered. Now, my license and my roommate's license expired this year, so we had to ask ourselves whether we wanted to go with a Real ID or standard license, since we had the option. We could have waited until the next time our licenses had to be renewed, but the time period our licenses would be valid straddles 2020, when Real ID becomes mandatory. After 2020 if we had to enter a federal building or take a domestic flight we would have had to present a passport or other proof of citizenship. I felt it wasn't worth the hassle to wait, so we both went with a Real ID.

Meeting the Real ID requirements wasn't terribly difficult. Birth certificate, Social Security Card, official correspondence from the state (including the DMV renewal notice) and a pay stub were all I needed to get Real ID. It only took a few extra minutes for them to scan my documents before I went through the normal license renewal process. A week later and I received my Real ID in the mail.

A permanent resident or naturalized citizen would have to provide additional documentation, like their work visa, permanent resident card, naturalization certificate, and a US document certifying they were born overseas. Anyone not legally in the country will be missing those documents, making it much more difficult for them to live and work here.

The wife and I did that a number of months ago. Optional here in Nevada, but I had everything to do the upgrade, so we did it at the DMV along with other business at the same time. I hate going there!

Availability here was in Sept. 2014 and like others have said, not fully implemented until 2020.

Way around it all and still fly or enter government buildings -- Valid US Passport.

I forget the particulars as to why but PA had a law on the books that prohibited compliance with the Real ID act, think it was something to do with privacy, but don't quote me on that. In May of 2017 the state legislators repealed that law and now the state hopes to have Real ID compliant documents available by spring of 2019.

Any PA resident wanting a Real-ID compliant document can apply after they become available regardless of the normal expiration of your current DL. From the PennDOT website:

Real-ID is not mandatory and only needed if you plan to board a domestic U.S. flight or enter a federal building that requires ID after Oct. 1, 2020.

Yeah I had to do this some time ago because I was concerned of the new identification requirements when flying.

New Mexico was one of the laggards in finding a path to ReadID compliance, but has been issuing licenses for some months now

For the first few months the newspapers carried lots of sob stories of people having trouble getting through the process.

My impression is that the dominant problem was that people showed up not with the exact specified required documents from the (widely published) lists of possibilities, but with something else they thought should be accepted as equivalent.

It is true that working through the process can be harder if you have been using multiple variants of your name. (probably it should be).

Can I stick with my Fake ID?

While you renew your Drive License, it will be a good idea to get a Real ID card which is a special emblem on at least my CA driver license. You will need this type of ID in 2020 2022 if you want to fly within the continental or have a valid Pass Port; it just makes sense to get when you renew your DL
You need 3 items (1) Passport or Birth Certificate; Social Security Card; (3) Some document to show you live at a the address that will correspond to your DL (ie; gas bill, Edison bill)

I have a Passport and a Passport ID card. Will this do when I fly or do I have to get the Real ID before I fly?

As others have said, this has been around for years, but compliance was not mandatory. In my case, I travel internationally on occasion, so my need for a Passport anyway meant that it was a moot point for me.

My Driver's License is coming up for renewal, so I'll go ahead and get the Real ID just as a hedge against the possibility of needing to enter a restricted Federal building when I don't have my Passport with me.

- Tom -

Your Passport is sufficient.

- Tom -

Just remember, mgarledge, that without a Real ID license, you will almost certainly need your passport after 10/1/20 to enter a Social Security office, military base or other federal sites with the same requirements. I'm not sure if there are any non-federal facilities that will be affected other than nuclear power plants.

And I would bet that once the Federal becomes mandatory (2020) the State and Local government access requirements will be piggy-backed for their offices/buildings as well.

Florida started doing this in 2010. I brought my passport and social security card when I renewed my license a few years ago.

I will do Real ID when my license expires. Thanks again.

I like to be someone I'm not. This makes it harder for me. No likey!

Just renewed my Tennessee drivers license in April, never heard or saw anything about "Real ID"

The only people who should be concerned, are those who routinely falsely present a drivers license, for whatever reasons (remember Toys R Us began requesting it when you return an item? No wonder they're out of business).

Again, after what happened at the school in Broward Co., I have often wondered how much in the day to day processes are truly incompetent.

A drivers license imho is good for one thing--establishing that you are able to drive in a particular state. With the compact, this extends to 45 states and DC.

A drivers license is good for nothing else. Should you be able to use it to get a job? No. A passport? No.

I would personally opt out. Yet at the same time, many people have already provided the credentials needed, and can sit back and do nothing. Their next new license will be Real ID.

This is a new to me expression that seems to have emerged in the last 2 years, this Real ID thing is a nothing burger.

Claiming the expense of new equipment was not budgeted. I am all for this, we need a form of ID that is more positive as to the persons identity for many reasons, terrorism, illegal entry, outstanding warrants and TSA

No big deal. I have no problem with changing the license. I'm sure we will be getting these when ours need to be replaced. The government already "owns" me. I have a passport.

It's easier for hackers to steal IDs too. Hack DMV database and they got everything including SSN, birth certificate, passport. One stop shop.

I'm not so sure about the "safer" part. I'd rather bring my passport whenever I need it.

This is from the MODOT web site re the new license:

"The new driver license or nondriver license will be issued to you when you renew, apply for a duplicate, or change your address on your license."

I'm assuming you have a blue passport. That is the greatest thing to have on the planet. How is it you feel the govt. has done something to own you? Man....sorry. Can you imagine in my grandpa's day they said, love her or leave her? Today, it's complain and stay.

May I see your papers please....

When does it end? Will we need this to enter a mall next, or how about a movie theater? How far, in the interest of "security" do we go before all our personal liberties and freedoms are completely removed?

Wait til we're all embedded with RFID tags - at birth!

There goes the neighborhood!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/25/d...

Must be a generation gap. I see all sorts of wrong with this.

What's next numbered tattoos on the inside of your arm?

How does showing a valid ID to board an airplane or obtain a free library card completely remove your personal liberties and freedoms?

You can also board an airplane or enter a federal building with a PIV or CAC, a passport, a passport card, or a Real ID compliant state issued identification. We’ve had real ID drivers licenses for a few years now. It’s a non issue.

Not a big deal (except don't like the fee). It's been a requirement for years to obtain new work. Now you just need to show the new driver's license and not bring all that paperwork to job interview (actually most don't require it until your 1st day of work).

This thread stayed on topic longer than I expected.

Don’t plan on trying to board an airplane or get into a government facility without a real ID in the future.

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- In an effort to ensure greater security and identification protection for customers, and to comply with federal regulations, the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles is introducing a single, central point of production for state driver licenses and identification cards, effective July 2, 2018.
Licenses and identification cards will no longer be produced while you wait at each of the more than 180 Deputy Registrar offices statewide. While customers will still go to a Deputy Registrar for license and card renewals or other transactions, they will receive their driver licenses and identification cards by mail rather than over the counter. Only a temporary proof of transaction
will be issued at a Deputy Registrar location. The extra level of security provided through centralized card production provides greater protection against counterfeiting and complies with all state and federal security standards. Ohio will be joining 41 other states to provide driver licenses and identification cards through the mail. Centralizing the production of driver licenses and identification cards will reduce driver license fraud and identify theft by:
 Ensuring driver licenses and identification cards are issued to legitimate cardholders only;
 Preventing loss and theft of secure materials from Deputy Registrar agencies; and
 Providing a more secure printing environment, sparing the state the costs associated with security renovations at local Deputy Registrar agencies.

A new option for meeting national travel security requirements. New federal travel restrictions requiring secure identification go into effect October 2020 and Ohio is getting a jump-start on this process beginning July 2, 2018.
 Customers interested in using their state-issued credential for access to federal facilities or services, such as airport security screening by the Transportation Safety Administration for boarding commercial airlines, may choose to obtain a credential that meets all federal requirements.
 Customers choosing this option when obtaining a new or renewed license or identification card will be required to provide documentation proving their name and date of birth (such as a birth certificate or passport), Social Security number (such as a Social Security card) and two additional documents proving residential address (such as utility bills).
 Customers not interested in or not needing to use their state-issued credential for federal identification purposes will have the option of obtaining a standard driver license or identification card without additional document requirements beyond those currently in place.

In Indiana, I was due for a renewal this month. The fee was the same as a less secure drivers license. The only item that I had to obtain before I went was a state issued birth certificate, the hospital issued one could not be used. No punches on my old license as it has not yet expired and I am waiting for the new one to come in the mail. I have an extension license to fill in any gap between mine expiring and the new one arriving. Pretty much painless as far as dealing with the BMNV goes.

Really? Passports no longer accepted as a travel document?

Although Real ID issues are primarily connected with each state's drivers licenses and bring a lot of discussions now, Real ID includes several other documents:

If you already have a REAL ID compliant driver's license, it will remain valid for domestic air travel. ... The U.S. passport book and the U.S. passport card are REAL ID compliant and are acceptable identification to board domestic flights.

Aug 31, 2017

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/08/273747.htm

No lines with appointment, otherwise there's a line without appointment..

Does NY city have REAL ID? My drivers license is about due to be renewed and was wondering if I will be getting one (if they have it, do I need to request it or will they just give me a new one?)

I do NOT have a passport at this time (I was in the service and active Military cards can be used as a passport (that might have changed since I have been out too)