No Punctuation, No Capitalization, Not Readable

 

Whenever I see a post where the author is too lazy to include even rudimentary punctuation and capitalization to indicate individual sentences, I just don't read it. I realize that this is only my opinion and others may see it differently.

I can deal with no

I can deal with no punctuation, my peeve is no paragraphs in a very long post that just becomes a wall of text.

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mobile devices.

I think this is often a consequence of using a mobile device instead of a "real" keyboard. It truly is a PITA typing on a mobile device and having to shift to a different typing pad every time you need a case shift, punctuation symbol or number.

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Agreed

soberbyker wrote:

I can deal with no punctuation, my peeve is no paragraphs in a very long post that just becomes a wall of text.

Yes indeed, adding some white space makes moderate to long posts so much more readable (says this user who tends to write long posts. wink )

:)

CraigW wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

I can deal with no punctuation, my peeve is no paragraphs in a very long post that just becomes a wall of text.

Yes indeed, adding some white space makes moderate to long posts so much more readable (says this user who tends to write long posts. wink )

surprised

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Back at ya...

soberbyker wrote:

surprised

Ha! twisted

Well

Teachers in several states have been going on strike, and there are demands for more $ for education. Can't happen soon enough. We'll see if it works.

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Np punctuation, no

Np punctuation, no paragraphs, no white space: I don't read them.

Grown people should be able to do as good as 9th. grade children!

Wil

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Yup, using mobile devices

Yup, using mobile devices without a dedicated keyboard.

Grammar

A while ago I made a comment regarding one such poster who rambled on without punctuation marks, capitalization or paragraphs. My post was deleted and I was chided in a PM about that by the powers to be.

I was not educated in an English speaking school environment. English is my second language. It seems that I do not have a problem with punctuation marks etc and also have no problems with paragraphs.
I'm also proud of the fact that I make very few spelling errors, that's without using spellcheck!

At this time in my life I'm closer to 100 years of age than I am to 50.

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My Pet Peeve Too

soberbyker wrote:

I can deal with no punctuation, my peeve is no paragraphs in a very long post that just becomes a wall of text.

Yep, no paragraph breaks are the worst.

I agree

sunsetrunner wrote:

Yup, using mobile devices without a dedicated keyboard.

Mobile devices are a pain.

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Punctuation

I think it's a generational thing. Whether on my PC, iPhone or iPad, I'm very anal about all of the above observations, and tend to point our errors to those I'm conversing with (close friends only - I have very few left smile )

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Well the system at

Well the system at work...

And I quote...

"No Beer and no TV makes something something something."

"Go Crazy?"

What are they teaching?

diesel wrote:

Teachers in several states have been going on strike, and there are demands for more $ for education. Can't happen soon enough. We'll see if it works.

They sure as heck are not teaching how to use the English language properly!

As I said earlier English is my second language. I see people writing who do not know the difference between there and their, then and than. People write this "alot", there is no such word! It's a lot! Unless it is alott, which has a completely different meaning. They use irregardless, again there is no such word! I could go on forever.

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It is a pleasure

It is a pleasure to see that I am not the only person here who is positively AR when it comes to use of the English language. (Although my joy is somewhat muted by noticing that most of those posting in this thread seem to be almost as antique as I am.) smile

On the other hand, my observation is that the vast majority of the postings here at POI Factory range from reasonably good to excellent use of English. The atrociously written postings are a distinct minority, IMO.

- Tom -

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Pleasure

Don't let that Hogg kid see your post about AR !!

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diesel wrote:

Teachers in several states have been going on strike, and there are demands for more $ for education. Can't happen soon enough. We'll see if it works.

Another reason why home schooling is the way to go.

i couldnot agree more

i couldnotagreemore anyonewhoareeducatedshouldbeable to writ good

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I agree, but...

-et- wrote:

...On the other hand, my observation is that the vast majority of the postings here at POI Factory range from reasonably good to excellent use of English. The atrociously written postings are a distinct minority, IMO.

- Tom -

I'm totally with you, Tom, but I suppose that many of the "atrociously" written posts are written by Factory members from non-English speaking countries and to whom English is truly a struggle. God bless 'em.

Phil

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I was taught to punctuate properly.

I may get a few spellings and punctuation messed up but I am a firm believer in spelling, punctuation, and proper grammar.

I read something some where. Can't remember where, but proper punctuation, grammar, and spelling is looked down upon when doing texting. I suppose all of this is due to the younger generation and how they only pretty much only text.

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Paragraphs

A short typed phone message is fine, but it deserves no more time understanding than it does sending.
I was reviewing an article by a university prof. He would just write his thoughts. I asked how he got from one sentence to the next. He said people could work that much of the problem themselves.
His paragraphs just rolled on and on.
One need to realize that if the reader knew everything the author knew, there would be no need for the message.

Stupid default keyboards are garbage

alandb wrote:

I think this is often a consequence of using a mobile device instead of a "real" keyboard. It truly is a PITA typing on a mobile device and having to shift to a different typing pad every time you need a case shift, punctuation symbol or number.

I will never understand why people put up with the crappy keyboards on their phones. Get a better keyboard. I use Swiftkey and I don't have to switch to another layout when I need punctuation or numbers. It also gives me arrow keys. It frustrates the heck out of me when I have to deal with somebody's lame default keyboard. I don't see how people can stand to use those things.

Get a better keyboard for your mobile device!!!

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It's the run-on sentences that really gets me

I can understand the comments complaining about the small keyboards on mobile devices, but a space is not difficult to use. At least I can distinguish one sentence from another.

By the way, I am surprised at the interest this thread has generated.

The interest is there,

The interest is there, because the trend is annoying. Texting has made people sloppy.

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My 2 cents worth

Punctuation and grammar are so important but they are not teaching that in school anymore. Stream of consciousness is in. White space helps to make a long post more readable.

Top 50..

Since some of you mentioned about how young folks need to text, here is 2 list of the to 50:

Top 50 List of Internet Acronyms

2F4U=Too Fast For You
4YEO FYEO=For Your Eyes Only
AAMOF=As a Matter of Fact
ACK=Acknowledgment
AFAIK=As far as I know
AFAIR=As far as I remember / recall
AFK=Away from Keyboard
AKA=Also known as
B2K BTK=Back to Keyboard
BTT=Back to Topic
BTW=By the Way
B/C=Because
C&P=Copy and Paste
CU=See you
CYS=Check your Settings
DIY=Do it Yourself
EOBD=End of Business Day
EOD=End of Discussion
EOM=End of Message
EOT=End of Thread / .. Text / .. Transmission
FAQ=Frequently asked Questions
FACK=Full Acknowledge
FKA=Formerly known as
FWIW=For what it's Worth
FYI/JFYI=(Just) For your Information
FTW=F*ck the World / For the Win
HF=Have fun
HTH=Hope this Helps
IDK=I don't know
IIRC=If I Recall / Remember Correctly
IMHO=In my Humble Opinion
IMO=In my Opinion
IMNSHO=In my not so Humble / Honest Opinion
IOW=In other Words
ITT=In this Thread
LOL=Laughing out loud
DGMW=Don't get me wrong
MMW=Mark my Words
N/A=Not Available / Applicable
NaN=Not a Number
NNTR=No need to Reply
noob n00b=Newbie
NOYB=None of your Business
NRN=No Reply Necessary
OMG=Oh my God
OP=Original Poster, Original Post
OT=Off Topic
OTOH=On the other Hand
PEBKAC=Problem exists between Keyboard and Chair
POV=Point of View
ROTFL=Rolling on the Floor Laughing
RSVP=Repondez s'il vous plait (French: Please reply)
RTFM=Read the fine Manual
SCNR=Sorry, could not Resist
SFLR=Sorry, for late Reply
SPOC=Single Point of Contact
TBA=To be Announced
TBC=To be Continued / To be Confirmed
TIA=Thanks in Advance
TGIF=Thanks God, its Friday
THX=TNX Thanks
TQ=Thank You
TYVM=Thank You Very Much
TYT=Take your Time
TTYL=Talk to you Later
w00t=Whoomp, there it is; Meaning "Hooray"
WFM=Works for Me
WRT=With Regard to
WTH=What the Hell / What the Heck
WTF=What the F*ck
YMMD=You made my Day
YMMV=Your Mileage may vary
YAM=Yet Another Meeting
ICYMI=In Case you missed it

Top 50 List of Text Messaging & SMS Abbreviations

2moro=Tomorrow
2nte=Tonight
AEAP=As Early as Possible
ALAP=As Late as Possible
ASAP=As Soon as Possible
ASL=Age / Sex / Location?
B3=Blah, Blah, Blah
B4YKI=Before You Know it
BFF=Best Friends, Forever
BM&Y=Between Me and You
BRB=Be right Back
BRT=Be right There
BTAM=Be that as it May
C-P=Sleepy
CTN=Cannot talk now
CUS=See You Soon
CWOT=Complete Waste of Time
CYT=See You Tomorrow
E123=Easy as 1, 2, 3
EM?=Excuse Me?
EOD=End of Day
F2F=Face to Face
FC=Fingers Crossed
FOAF=Friend of a Friend
GR8=Great
HAK=Hugs and Kisses
IDC=I Don't Care
IDK=I Don't Know
ILU / ILY=I Love You
IMU=I Miss You
IRL=In Real Life
J/K=Just Kidding
JC=Just Checking
JTLYK=Just to Let You Know
KFY=Kiss for You
KMN=Kill Me Now
KPC=Keeping Parents Clueless
L8R=Later
MoF=Male or Female
MTFBWY=May the Force be with You
MYOB=Mind Your Own Business
N-A-Y-L=In a While
NAZ=Name, Address, ZIP
NC=No Comment
NIMBY=Not in my Backyard
NM=Never Mind / Nothing Much
NP=No Problem
NSFW=Not Safe for Work
NTIM=Not that it Matters
NVM=Never Mind
OATUS=On a totally Unrelated Subject
OIC=Oh, I See
OMW=On My Way
OTL=Out to Lunch
OTP=On the Phone
P911=Parent Alert
PAL=Parents are Listening
PAW=Parents are Watching
PIR=Parent in Room
POS=Parent over Shoulder
PROP(S)=Proper Respect / Proper Recognition
QT=Cutie
RN=Right Now
RU=Are You
SEP=Someone else's Problem
SITD=Still in the Dark
SLAP=Sounds like a Plan
SMIM=Send Me an Instant Message
SO=Significant Other
TMI=Too Much Information
UR=Your / You are
W8=Wait
WB=Welcome Back
WYCM=Will You Call Me?
WYWH=Wish You Were Here
XOXOXOX=Hugs, Kisses, ...

Do you know any more?

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I was thinking..

cbwatts wrote:

i couldnotagreemore anyonewhoareeducatedshouldbeable to writ good

You beat me to that.. Was going to do a post like that Haha!

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OK, now let's talk about the

OK, now let's talk about the real illiterates who don't know the difference between THERE and THEIR; YOU'RE and YOUR; AFFECT and EFFECT; ITS and IT'S; WHOLE and HOLE; QUIT and QUIET; etc., etc. and also can't spell....... AND they are responsible for website content, magazine & newspaper editorials, TV ads. That is what amazes me.

If they are using their phone to publish, it is time for them to find a new job. I wouldn't put up with it for my company.
BTW, I am an engineer so I have a license to not be able to spell.

Let the iPhone keyboard do the talking

Oldpal hola soy de los que no me gusta mucho la atención prestada qué te prepara la vida de los que ya estamos en contacto con la participación de los que no se si todavía no se que es el mismo día que se puede hacer algo para que me gusta mucho la atención.

(English Translation)

Oldpal the same time that I have been working on a previous challenge to the pool today and I will be wearing a Amazon logo shirt and I will be wearing a mask on the street from the same group that shoot unnamed prisoners of war and the world is watching how you treat the same time that I have a bridge to sell you a call to discuss the details of the most important thing is that the pendulum here is the reason.

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We Have A Winner!

ruggb wrote:

OK, now let's talk about the real illiterates who don't know the difference between THERE and THEIR; YOU'RE and YOUR; AFFECT and EFFECT; ITS and IT'S; WHOLE and HOLE; QUIT and QUIET; etc., etc. and also can't spell....... AND they are responsible for website content, magazine & newspaper editorials, TV ads. That is what amazes me.

If they are using their phone to publish, it is time for them to find a new job. I wouldn't put up with it for my company.
BTW, I am an engineer so I have a license to not be able to spell.

Okay, this is the best ever!!!

Even MS Word has a grammar checker to flag questionable words, such as the listed homonyms.

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Give me a brake!

Time to put the breaks on this conversation before it gets out of hand. wink

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Agree

Agree. Lots of members here at POI Factory and we don't need to discourage them from posting.

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Many years ago...

...the company I worked for was bought out by the Japanese. One day I was talking with a Japanese engineer about the English language. He told me that English was a very hard language to learn because of the many words that are spelled differently, but sound the same, e.g.; hear/here. He also mentioned words that are spelled the same but have different meanings, e.g.; elephant trunk/car trunk/steamer trunk. I had never thought about this before, but he made a valid point. English is difficult if you have not been brought up to speak it.

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Grammar, Spelling, Punctuation, It All Matters!

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There's a name for it: Run-on sentences. They just type as they think, and they understand it just fine since it's their thoughts. If you ask me, this stems from the lack of consideration for others.

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Emojis to the rescue?

idea question cool

Our next up and coming language! Emojis

scott_dog wrote:

idea question cool

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Good Grammar is ...

... the difference between knowing your shit and not knowing you're shit.

One

Of my pet peeves is this:

Me and Bob went to the store. It also is not, Bob and me went to the store.
"It is Bob and I went to the store!"

I still remember a teacher I had when I was about 11-12 years old!

His saying was " The Donkey always goes first! "

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That is not just with english

maddog67 wrote:

...the company I worked for was bought out by the Japanese. One day I was talking with a Japanese engineer about the English language. He told me that English was a very hard language to learn because of the many words that are spelled differently, but sound the same, e.g.; hear/here. He also mentioned words that are spelled the same but have different meanings, e.g.; elephant trunk/car trunk/steamer trunk. I had never thought about this before, but he made a valid point. English is difficult if you have not been brought up to speak it.

You can say that for many languages, they all have some idiosyncrasies
some in spelling, some by pronunciations

English

windwalker wrote:

You can say that for many languages, they all have some idiosyncrasies
some in spelling, some by pronunciations

I only know English but I can't imagine a more inconsistent language. Gallagher pokes a little fun at it here:

https://youtu.be/Mfz3kFNVopk?t=45

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Good one

soberbyker wrote:

I only know English but I can't imagine a more inconsistent language. Gallagher pokes a little fun at it here:https://youtu.be/Mfz3kFNVopk?t=45

That's so funny and true too!
I can manage 2 1/4 languages, the 1/4 being Español which I find very difficult to learn especially at my age. It seems to go in one ear and out the other immediately.

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Do you know what you call a

Do you know what you call a person that knows only one language?

Answer: American