Windows 10 question (anniversary upgrade or creators edition)

 

I'm visiting a person, who had Windows 7 pro on their system and it ran fine for eons without any problems.

When the Windows 10 system came out, by hook or by crook, this person got upgraded to Windows 10 Pro, build 10240 and for the most part it's been running reasonably well.

The question that's been asked (and I don't know) is what does it take to put in another (newer if you will) system... say the anniversary upgrade or the upcoming creators edition?

Honestly, I don't know anything about how, if, when, under what circumstances / conditions the initial build 10240 would upgrade to a newer build and if there's a cost associated.

For whatever reason it doesn't appear the windows update process is working very well. When I run a SYSTEMINFO it only returns about 40 fixes and I can't imagine there aren't more fixes.

Thanks in advance for any explanations (Windows 10 isn't my thing)

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It's free

It's free. You can use the Upgrade Assistant and upgrade to the Creators Edition now.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

If you are on the machine, you can click Update Now or you can click on the Download Tool now icon and download to either a DVD or a USB flash drive.

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Thank you jfossy

Ok.. so now that I'm going to do this with this poor soul, will it ask anything like product keys or what?

If they don't know any of the information then what?

Again thanks in advance

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It should just update to the latest build, no product keys are required with the digital entitlement.

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Well.......

The upgrade assistant ran for a long time. Then it started the update and it ran for a while... went through some 3 reboots, got to about 50% then did a reboot and said, restoring your previous version of Windows..

Grrrr... ok... now what???

Again, thanks in advance..

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Windows 10

Maybe a little off topic but everybody who got the free Windows 10 upgrade needs to know the cd key/product id. Go to this link and download the utility and run it. Then find the txt file and print it. It will give that info. If you replace a hard drive or reformat you need that info.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/produkey.html

Thanks

stan393 wrote:

Maybe a little off topic but everybody who got the free Windows 10 upgrade needs to know the cd key/product id. Go to this link and download the utility and run it. Then find the txt file and print it. It will give that info. If you replace a hard drive or reformat you need that info.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/produkey.html

Thanks for passing on the information.

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You can still get it

IF you want you can still get it. The window 10 version.for free.

thanks

stan393 wrote:

Maybe a little off topic but everybody who got the free Windows 10 upgrade needs to know the cd key/product id. Go to this link and download the utility and run it. Then find the txt file and print it. It will give that info. If you replace a hard drive or reformat you need that info.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/produkey.html

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not so simple

The Windows product key is only available on the Microsoft label usually on the back of the PC. Utilities that supposedly find and display the product key are displaying some alternate key, not the original. This alternate key probably will not work. This is not only for Windows 10. It has been this way for some time.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2970075/windows/why-you-cant-...

With regard to the problem at hand, in my opinion a clean install is the best way to avoid a lot of grief. Not having the product key may preclude this. Rather than formatting the drive, replace the drive with a new similar one to see if the clean install can be accomplished.

If I wanted to upgrade to Windows 10, I would pay the price to get the key for a clean install.

dobs108 smile

As a side note, Windows 10

As a side note, Windows 10 users who haven't created a backup of the OS (USB jumpdrive or DVD), you might want to do so. It is easy to do and is necessary to keep your free upgrade if your hard drive crashes. If you don't have this and have to replace your hard drive, you will have to purchase Windows 10.

great idea

sunsetrunner wrote:

As a side note, Windows 10 users who haven't created a backup of the OS (USB jumpdrive or DVD), you might want to do so. It is easy to do and is necessary to keep your free upgrade if your hard drive crashes. If you don't have this and have to replace your hard drive, you will have to purchase Windows 10.

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Thanks Guys

First, thanks everyone for your help, explanations and pointers to links.

So what build level should I be seeing with the download from the link above for the upgrade?

When I loaded the system I get 14393 when issuing systeminfo.

Is that what's supposed to be the most current? The "Creators Edition?'

I really don't want to need to rebuild this system again if the there's another version that's going to be available in just a couple of days.

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Watching this thread

Good info found in this thread, so I'll be watching it. Have not upgraded any of my PC's to Windows 10, but if I buy or build a new one won't have any choice in the matter. Did not upgrade to 10 since they decided to remove Windows Media Center, which I use every day with my network tuner. All my "TV" watching is done on my PC.

WINVER

If you type WINVER in the windows run window, The creators version should come up as Version 1703 (build 15063.13)

The Version 1703 = Creators Build

nrbovee wrote:

Good info found in this thread, so I'll be watching it. Have not upgraded any of my PC's to Windows 10, but if I buy or build a new one won't have any choice in the matter. Did not upgrade to 10 since they decided to remove Windows Media Center, which I use every day with my network tuner. All my "TV" watching is done on my PC.

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Something went wrong

BarneyBadass wrote:

The upgrade assistant ran for a long time. Then it started the update and it ran for a while... went through some 3 reboots, got to about 50% then did a reboot and said, restoring your previous version of Windows..

Grrrr... ok... now what???

Again, thanks in advance..

Something went wrong with the install that it rolled back the installation to the previous one. You would have to log at the System Event Viewer for errors as to what went wrong that it couldn't finish installing.

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Good tip

jfossy wrote:

If you type WINVER in the windows run window, The creators version should come up as Version 1703 (build 15063.13)

The Version 1703 = Creators Build

jfossy, thanks for this really useful tip.

Phil

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This is the version and build history of Windows 10

This is the version and build history of Windows 10:
Version 1507 build 10240 - July 2015
Version 1511 build 10586 - November 2015
Version 1607 build 14393 - July 2016
Version 1703 build 15063 - March 2017 ('Creators' being released in April)

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What's special about Creators Edition

I don't understand what's special about Creators Edition. Is it worth the upgrade?

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Service pack.

To me these "edition" updates are what used to be called service packs. Microsoft announced there would be no service packs in Windows 10, but IMO, all they did is name them something else to make them seem more "exotic".

I suspect they will do the same thing with the next release of the OS. Since they have announced that Windows 10 is the last Windows version, the next one will be just another Windows with a different name ... Microsoft Horizons or something silly like that.

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Thanks Koot

koot wrote:

This is the version and build history of Windows 10:
Version 1507 build 10240 - July 2015
Version 1511 build 10586 - November 2015
Version 1607 build 14393 - July 2016
Version 1703 build 15063 - March 2017 ('Creators' being released in April)

That's just what I was looking for.

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Creators Edition Will Be Good For This

GPSgeek wrote:

I don't understand what's special about Creators Edition. Is it worth the upgrade?

In my particular case, putting on the most current version seems the sensible thing to do so in a year or so when I'm back I won't be doing this again.

Last May I was asked if this machine would run Win 10 and I said it would. But I cautioned not to do it for a number of reasons.

I custom built the machine to do some specific things and I didn't know if they could be achieved in Win 10.

Against my recomendarions, some of this persons friends came and upgraded the Retail Win 7 pro I'd installed and customized to properly interface with all the outboard electronics attached to this system. ( packet radio, antenna direction controller and an assundrey of other things ).

But it got upgraded to Win 10 and never worked properly ever again. While it runs it's unbelievably slow ( even though there are 2 1TB SSD's & 2 1 TB 15,000 RPM HDD's.

So waiting and doing this once, ( considering these folks are 85 and creeping up on 86) and getting it functioning correctly is likely my best option.

So here I am trying to keep this system running and building up the new OS.

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I have it on 4 systems. Each

I have Creator on 4 systems. Each one has a different networking issue with my local network that it didn't have in 1607 (anniv ed). It also broke a couple other things like PDF and browser file association in favor of Edge and my shortcut text removal. Those were all easily fixable, but my network is still broke. YMMV

Did you...

ruggb wrote:

I have Creator on 4 systems. Each one has a different networking issue with my local network that it didn't have in 1607 (anniv ed). It also broke a couple other things like PDF and browser file association in favor of Edge and my shortcut text removal. Those were all easily fixable, but my network is still broke. YMMV

Clean install or upgrade install?

And thanks for the info

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Patience

Let's see what/when the actual release is and whether people have problems, including with the GPS situation.

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stan393 wrote:

Maybe a little off topic but everybody who got the free Windows 10 upgrade needs to know the cd key/product id. Go to this link and download the utility and run it. Then find the txt file and print it. It will give that info. If you replace a hard drive or reformat you need that info.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/produkey.html

Not if you have a Microsoft account like Live, MSN, etc.

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If you can't wait...

jale wrote:

Let's see what/when the actual release is and whether people have problems, including with the GPS situation.

Not everyone will get it as an upgrade via Windows Update at the same time because Microsoft is releasing it in stages.

Version 1607 Build 14393 is the "Anniversary Update" of Windows 10 that was released in July 2016. (There have been multiple 'Cumulative Updates' for Windows 10 Version 1607. The most recent was KB4015217 this month, and KB4015438 and KB4013429 in March.)

Version 1703 Build 15063 is the "Creators Update" of Windows 10 that was released in March 2017.

If you can't wait and want to install it now, you can obtain it from Microsoft via the Media Creation Tool.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

You can also obtain it via the Windows ISO Downloader tool.
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/6...

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Windows update problem.

Just found that some recent update has "broken" Wi-Fi access to my Canon PIXMA MX922. My wifes machine without the recent updates works just fine.

Reinstall printer driver

dougcutler wrote:

Just found that some recent update has "broken" Wi-Fi access to my Canon PIXMA MX922. My wifes machine without the recent updates works just fine.

On one of my computers, I had to reinstall the printer driver.

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I'll presume

jfossy wrote:
dougcutler wrote:

Just found that some recent update has "broken" Wi-Fi access to my Canon PIXMA MX922. My wifes machine without the recent updates works just fine.

On one of my computers, I had to reinstall the printer driver.

You did an upgrade?

I put mine in via clean install.. It's been a bit of a toothache nut its up n' runnin' along..

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Yawn. It's just another monthly update

Updated a couple days ago. Nothing changed; nothing broken.

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And this has what to do with

And this has what to do with Garmins or GPSs???

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???

It's the Welcome / Open Talk thread. Anything goes...

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Garmin Gal wrote:

And this has what to do with Garmins or GPSs???

Are you new here?

I second the suggestion to

I second the suggestion to use the official Microsoft media creation tool. It's great and even works when you have low disk space.

It's called 'Open Talk' for a reason...

Garmin Gal wrote:

And this has what to do with Garmins or GPSs???

You've been around for over 5 years and you ask that question?

It's called 'Open Talk' for a reason...

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ToDo

Garmin Gal wrote:

And this has what to do with Garmins or GPSs???

To replace the insanity of patching the GPS,
with the insanity of patching windows

and make all GPS look good

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If only ..

Been having update probs

For about 3 weeks been getting "unable to update try again later" on 2 updates. The other day I remembered I had Downloaded the "Creator Update Assistant" for the Anniversary Upgrade. Tried it and now everything is up great

Win 10 broke my networking!

Had to downgrade to get it back. But two other upgrades went off without a hitch. Maybe I'll give the creator's version a shot and see if it fixes it...

Not sure she understands

koot wrote:
Garmin Gal wrote:

And this has what to do with Garmins or GPSs???

You've been around for over 5 years and you ask that question?

It's called 'Open Talk' for a reason...

Not the first time over those years she's asked that on an Open Talk topic either.

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Coulda Been Worse

soberbyker wrote:
koot wrote:
Garmin Gal wrote:

And this has what to do with Garmins or GPSs???

You've been around for over 5 years and you ask that question?

It's called 'Open Talk' for a reason...

Not the first time over those years she's asked that on an Open Talk topic either.

She coulda been asking how to roast the Easter Bunny! razz

Me, I'da been asking how to prepare a Hefner Bunny shock

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Windows 10 Creators Edition

No problem installing the Windows 10 Creators Edition. Would suggest that you go through the setting and make necessary changes you feel are necessary. Cortana seems to have some changes and improvements.It seems easier now to control the voice option for my music files with Cortana.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/04/11/whats...

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Upgrade issues

My laptop receives and installs the various update fine but my wife's laptop will totally hang forever unless she remembers to remove the USB receiver unit for her wireless mouse. We both have the same mouse and I don't have the issue. Bleh. I was very happy with Win 7 Pro 64 bit. Everything worked fine. Win 10 is "mostly" good but does have some weird issues on these two "upgraded" laptops. The upgrade never would work on my desktop. I burned it to the ground and did a full install from scratch and it works much better than the laptops. Of course the laptops are commercial boxes and the desktop was a custom build.

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