Worst Garmin update ever (routing is terrible now)

 

I don't know if it was the map (City Navigator NA NT 2018.1) or the software (4.40) for my Garmin 58 LMT that ruined it?

Routing is terrible now!? It acts like it has a virus or is completely stupid. For example, I was on the Interstate, it had me get off on a state route. I followed the off-ramp to a stop sign, where it had me take the on-ramp back onto the interstate?! Another example, approaching an intersection where I knew I needed to take a left on Rt. 17, the Nuvi wanted me go go straight across onto Rt. 22, go for some distance, turn around, come back down Rt.22, then take a right on Rt.17. The worst thing that happened was that it started routing me onto Parkways - while I'm pulling a trailer! It never did that before, and I have no way to tell it that I can't drive on Parkways.

These are just a few examples, but since the last update, it's just been giving me awful directions. Just FYI, I've been using this model Nuvi (and others) for years.

I'd like to back off both of these updates. Does anyone have instructions for doing so?

Thanks,
-Chuck

Chuck

I strongly suggest you first try doing a hard reset to see if it corrects your routing problems. Map & software updates are known at times to cause this sort of problem and a hard reset can cure it.

Just remember to back up your favorites before performing this procedure as it might delete all the favorites on the unit.

Good luck & please let us know if it worked smile

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hard reset seconded

Yes, a hard reset will cure what ails generally.

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Michael (Nuvi 2639LMT)

Okay?

I see this recommendation a lot here. Reminds me of the old recommendation to Format C:

Resetting your GPS to factory default is pretty hard core if you ask me. I did it once and wasn't tickled with all of the resetting of things I had to do. And, it didn't fix the problem in my case.

Perhaps some other suggestions may help this gentleman. At least something less invasive. Anyone have any other suggestions for him?

No similarity at all

Those are 2 completely different things.

You can re-do settings on a Garmin in 5 mins. max. An HDD format? Hours to get reloaded.

You don't format the OS on the GPS.

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Hard Reset Done

OK, I did the hard reset today. Now it remains to be seen if it unscrambled the Nuvi's brain!

reinstall the map

Sixeye wrote:

Perhaps some other suggestions may help this gentleman. At least something less invasive. Anyone have any other suggestions for him?

Reinstall the map. If the map installation is not complete a hard reset won't fix it.

dobs108 smile

Agree --- good luck and keep

Agree --- good luck and keep us posted.

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Point Taken

Juggernaut wrote:

Those are 2 completely different things.

You can re-do settings on a Garmin in 5 mins. max. An HDD format? Hours to get reloaded.

You don't format the OS on the GPS.

Point taken but I've seen too many quick suggestions here by well intended folks that say to do a hard reset. I'd suggest doing that last personally.

Routing

Sounds just like the way BaseCamp acts when its in "Walking" instead of "Driving".

I know, I know, the Garmin 58 doesn't have that selection in settings (at least it's not in the manual). Just pointing it out because if you try to autoroute on an Interstate using the "Walking" activity in BaseCamp, it will take you around an Interstate bridge because there is no sidewalk on that bridge (a Safety Lane is not a Sidewalk). On the open roadway, the routing allows you to walk on the grass!!!!! Weird routing in BaseCamp drove me nuts, until I set the "Activity" to "Driving" from "Walking".

Just an observation, not a solution.

BTW, my 660 has a "Pedestrian" selection under Navigation + Vehicle. Guess that keeps it from "Snapping" to the roadway and affects the routing.

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wonder

I wonder if the reset solved his problem?

ScrugneysGundogs wrote:

OK, I did the hard reset today. Now it remains to be seen if it unscrambled the Nuvi's brain!

Did it work?

It still hasn't been tested thoroughly. I've been using it around town and it seems to be O.K. However, I won't know for sure until I head home in a couple of weeks. (I'm a snowbird).

Mine is slow than before

Mine is slow than before after updated.
It looks fine so far.

Up dates in general are getting scarey

They keep getting bigger and bigger, more chance of bad stuff.

@ScrugneysGundogs

A simple way to know if the problem is solved is to put your unit in simulation mode and create the same "trip/route" from point A-B that initially had the awful routing.

Next press the turn by turn button or the top bar across the screen depending on the model your using to see all the turns on the "trip/route".

You'll immediately see if the unit behaves differently & if the hard reset cured the routing problem.

Cheers smile

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For what it is worth....

... I have a 68LM and I have not had any issue with 2018.10, other than the occasional "quirk" that I have always had with 3-4 different models over the years.

Sometimes Garmin just picks a route that does not seem to be what one would consider correct or intuitive.

My attitude is, if you already know a more appropriate route, then why use the Garmin. Or, simply ignore the direction, then let it re-calculate when you are back on the track you prefer.

I've gone a hundred miles with it always "recalculating" (so glad it doesn't speak it on the newer models) until back on a route I prefer.

I've also discovered a lot of great back roads I would not have normally used, just by giving in and "going with Garmin".

Cancel the Route

Try cancelling the route then restart it to see if it will cooperate.

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No problems with update here

Master Reset is no big deal and fixes many problems

Sixeye wrote:

I see this recommendation a lot here. Reminds me of the old recommendation to Format C:

Resetting your GPS to factory default is pretty hard core if you ask me. I did it once and wasn't tickled with all of the resetting of things I had to do. And, it didn't fix the problem in my case.

Perhaps some other suggestions may help this gentleman. At least something less invasive. Anyone have any other suggestions for him?

A Master Reset is not a big deal and it has fixed many GPS problems. Format C: is not comparable in the least. On zumoforums.com we recommend that ANY TIME you do a map update or a software update on your Garmin device.

Here's a compiled list that may or may not have to be reapplied after a Master Reset:

Safe mode
Screen brightness (auto, motorcycle and offline)
Master volume (auto, motorcycle and offline)
Location country
Voice selection
Motorcycle and auto icons
Motorcycle fuel monitor settings
Favorites (backup before a Master Reset)
Recently Found is cleared
Satellite acquisition information must be rescanned outdoors for 10-20 minutes
Avoidances
Keyboard Layout
Map Detail & Layout
Bluetooth
Home Location
Restore Favorites
Restore Routes
Choose displayed data fields with/without route active
All maps are selected after a reset

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this is years old

but I remember how I could not understand why it says to go to a destination one way, and then a different way on the way back. Then, with the latest 2013 update, a mall that was built in 2007 is missing.

Been using google for almost a year now, it is so much better imho, very realistic arrival time and very realistic multiple routes, and free. Doesn't use a lot of data, either. I'm mot saying everyone should switch, many people simply feel comfortable doing things the way they're been doing. So if you like Garmin and are not having any issues, no need to do anything differently. But if you are having issues, maybe time to try something new.

Goofy routing

Chalk me up as another one who's had some goofy routing with the recent maps including the latest on my 2598. At first I thought it was due to the traffic receiver/smartlink live traffic but with not using the traffic the routing if goofy at times. Sometimes I just ignore the route and go my own way until it begins to route as I want it to to the destination.

SD install

How was the upgrade done? Did you use the SD card method or upgrade the maps in onboard memory? When I do the SD upgrade method I have to make sure that only the new map is selected in the settings. Not sure what would happen if both maps were selected.

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nuvi 350 nuvi 1450LMT

My 2689 routing is also ridiculous since the update

Tried cancelling routes multiple times and starting over, but that didn't work. Checked to see if I'd selected avoidances accidentally, nope, not that either. Routes just make no sense at all.

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nuvi 350, nuvi 765T, nuvi 2689LMT

Try ...

... a master reset.

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Well Dang...

The last time that mine started that, it was doing the same thing. Exit the freeway, wait through the red light, enter back on the freeway, exit the freeway.... you get the idea. I finally found that somehow my avoidance setting for dodging heavy traffic had gotten turned on so it was telling me to dodge the traffic on the freeway by moving to the service road where the traffic was even worse. But I see that you checked that one.

Does it happen on more than one route?

I drive through downtown Seattle frequently on I-5. For whatever reason when I am traveling northbound (even when my exit is on the left)Garmin wants to route me to the right onto collector/distributor lanes and exits that make no sense as they would take me as if I wanted to go east off the freeway when I am needing to go west. You can take this exit and re-enter the freeway too. This is the only instance I've found in the last map update so I have done nothing. It may have something to do with traffic in the area but based on flow it still makes no sense (to me) to follow the routing so I just write it off as a fluke. I've only noticed it on this route.

broken road?

Is this problem occurring when you get directions in BaseCamp too? You may try and zoom in to highest level on problematic part of the road. Than move map between points where GPS tells you to leave and reenter main road.

I had this sort of problem once, and after checking it showed, that in one points road was "broken". That means there was no connection between two pieces of this road. As result gps can't navigate through this gap and found road around (only 200 miles longer in my case). Maybe this is source of problem with yours detour as well.

Useful and Informative Topic

Thanks..!!!!

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rvOutrider

the reset helped

Well, the ride home was better after I did the reset. There were none of the "stupid" routing directions, although it still wanted me to take a couple of Parkways. I just ignored the Parkway suggestions and stayed on the interstate.

As for routing onto the parkways, I think the software update must have changed the weighting for your "type of road" preferences. On my old 855 nuvi, you could weight it for highways preferred vs. smaller roads preferred; however, this nuvi has no controls for that. It must be adjustable on one of the hidden screens somewhere?

connecticut parkways

In Connecticut, parkways are limited-access highways for cars and pickups, but no trailers. Parkways are the same as the interstate for Garmin routing. Speeds could be lower but you must be using the "faster time" setting and many times the parkway is just that.

There are no Garmin settings that would weight the interstate over the parkway.

If you are pulling a trailer, there are no Garmin settings on a Nuvi 58 for a trailer. A trucker's GPS would do that.

Sounds good that the reset helped.

dobs108 smile

Bad Update for Routing

Did you try reverting to an older firmware version?

I don't; know the actual procedure, but one of our super smart forum members may be able to help you do that.