Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
at the bottom of page 3... or will it start page 4??
-- Garmin Nuvi 760, Drivesmart 55; Retired Nuvi 765T ><> Dave <>< "He is no fool, who gives up what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose."
- Jim Elliot
on Sat., and although it's somewhat painless with express, I hate how one loses 5 gb of hard drive space for a map update, and one has to go looking through hidden directories to delete it.
With many/most of us having SSD drives, space is now at a premium, not cheap like it was, so inefficient programming is costly...my .02....
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
-- "Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
-- "Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
right now, assuming it's 10:30 EST, and traffic is light, google maps from the web says 6.6 miles, and 14 min. This is the exact trip I made leaving around 16:30 EST, where I needed to arrive by 17:00 because the place was closing. My time wavered between 16:57 and 16:58. Point was, getting stuck in traffic did not cause the number to go beyond the time at which the place would close, even though I was stuck at multiple red lights backed up. The point is not that google can predict the future (say a trip from NYC to LA, I highly doubt it can get the arrival time correctly, too many variables), rather, our mindsets are changing. When it says we can get there by 16:58, it has already taken into account traffic, lights, etc. Sure, an accident can change that, but all the ordinary factors have been considered. Google maps always turns red or amber where traffic is backing up, i.e. it already knows about these areas...my .02...
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
right now, assuming it's 10:30 EST, and traffic is light, google maps from the web says 6.6 miles, and 14 min. This is the exact trip I made leaving around 16:30 EST, where I needed to arrive by 17:00 because the place was closing. My time wavered between 16:57 and 16:58. Point was, getting stuck in traffic did not cause the number to go beyond the time at which the place would close, even though I was stuck at multiple red lights backed up. The point is not that google can predict the future (say a trip from NYC to LA, I highly doubt it can get the arrival time correctly, too many variables), rather, our mindsets are changing. When it says we can get there by 16:58, it has already taken into account traffic, lights, etc. Sure, an accident can change that, but all the ordinary factors have been considered. Google maps always turns red or amber where traffic is backing up, i.e. it already knows about these areas...my .02...
...I tried it today on two different trips and by jingo, I think you have something there. The time did vary but it was only by a minute or two. I was amazed that the traffic lights didn't alter the time given when I first pulled up the route. Learned something new. However, I don't think I would use it on a long trip given the data that it would probably use along with the smaller screen on my iphone 5s. But, I must say, I was surprised that it was that accurate.
-- "Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
...I tried it today on two different trips and by jingo, I think you have something there. The time did vary but it was only by a minute or two. I was amazed that the traffic lights didn't alter the time given when I first pulled up the route. Learned something new. However, I don't think I would use it on a long trip given the data that it would probably use along with the smaller screen on my iphone 5s. But, I must say, I was surprised that it was that accurate.
Google uses massive servers that can process all sorts of stuff, your Garmin has its on board processor and that's it. Course it will work in the absence of a phone signal ...
-- Where there's a will ... there's a way ...
DriveSmart51LMT-S, DriveSmart50LMT-D, Nuvi 2508LMT-D, 1490LMT, 1310, Montana 650T, Etrex 20
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
right now, assuming it's 10:30 EST, and traffic is light, google maps from the web says 6.6 miles, and 14 min. This is the exact trip I made leaving around 16:30 EST, where I needed to arrive by 17:00 because the place was closing. My time wavered between 16:57 and 16:58. Point was, getting stuck in traffic did not cause the number to go beyond the time at which the place would close, even though I was stuck at multiple red lights backed up. The point is not that google can predict the future (say a trip from NYC to LA, I highly doubt it can get the arrival time correctly, too many variables), rather, our mindsets are changing. When it says we can get there by 16:58, it has already taken into account traffic, lights, etc. Sure, an accident can change that, but all the ordinary factors have been considered. Google maps always turns red or amber where traffic is backing up, i.e. it already knows about these areas...my .02...
...I tried it today on two different trips and by jingo, I think you have something there. The time did vary but it was only by a minute or two. I was amazed that the traffic lights didn't alter the time given when I first pulled up the route. Learned something new. However, I don't think I would use it on a long trip given the data that it would probably use along with the smaller screen on my iphone 5s. But, I must say, I was surprised that it was that accurate.
it was useful because if it had said my arrival were 5:05 pm...I would not have attempted and waited until the next evening...but 4:58 was a go to me....maybe even next time I would have relaxed more and not attempted as it was too close for comfort ...
Well
Yes ... made it to Page 3 ... Now we're ready!
If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem quickly resembles a nail. (Maslow's Hammer)
Yes page 3 might be it
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
oh yea
page 3.
Page 4...
here we come...
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Like last time
The map update will probably follow today's update of GE to 5.1.0!
If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem quickly resembles a nail. (Maslow's Hammer)
Maybe Garmin...
...is waiting for the DOW to break 20,000. Then again, probably not.
Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav
No more comments since 3
No more comments since 3 days, what is happening?
We will not reach page 4 ......
Ginpi
No more comments since 3
No more comments since 3 days, what is happening?
We will not reach page 4 ......
Ginpi
Gotta have faith
No more comments since 3 days, what is happening?
We will not reach page 4 ......
I say we will make it to page 4 and maybe even to page 5.
"Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
We think we can we think we
We think we can we think we can we think we can make it to page 4
We can We Can
If the train keeps moving we can make it.

Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
i know we can
chug chug chug I know we can
I know we can
Apparently it is not...
Apparently it is not 'about time for the new update to 2017.40'!
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Maybe Soon
We'll see if it's this month or the next.
Anytime
Anytime would be great.
Next
Next month.
Next Page
Once we get to the next page, it will be time.
Next Page
Once we get to the next page, it will be time.
Working to get
to page 4 and beyond!
Garmin Nuvi 765T, Garmin Drive 60LM
I'll help
We got to get that page count up. I hate their numbering scheme.
Hanging another shingle
at the bottom of page 3... or will it start page 4??
Garmin Nuvi 760, Drivesmart 55; Retired Nuvi 765T ><> Dave <>< "He is no fool, who gives up what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
Page 4 yet???
Page 4 yet???
A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love...
Bumpski
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
Page 4 right around the
Page 4 right around the corner
NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT
2017.4 out date
I stand by my original prediction.
garry
jes'
waitin' 2 c...
So...
So are we playing again?
GPS Update Again
Sitting forward and looking back while waiting.
romanviking
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Anticipation . . .
I just updated
on Sat., and although it's somewhat painless with express, I hate how one loses 5 gb of hard drive space for a map update, and one has to go looking through hidden directories to delete it.
With many/most of us having SSD drives, space is now at a premium, not cheap like it was, so inefficient programming is costly...my .02....
I totally use
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
I really can't see how Google ...
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
"Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
Agree. Garmin looks better
Agree. Garmin looks better on the time and the red light cams.
seeing
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
I'll give it a try tomorrow
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
"Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
some more info
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
right now, assuming it's 10:30 EST, and traffic is light, google maps from the web says 6.6 miles, and 14 min. This is the exact trip I made leaving around 16:30 EST, where I needed to arrive by 17:00 because the place was closing. My time wavered between 16:57 and 16:58. Point was, getting stuck in traffic did not cause the number to go beyond the time at which the place would close, even though I was stuck at multiple red lights backed up. The point is not that google can predict the future (say a trip from NYC to LA, I highly doubt it can get the arrival time correctly, too many variables), rather, our mindsets are changing. When it says we can get there by 16:58, it has already taken into account traffic, lights, etc. Sure, an accident can change that, but all the ordinary factors have been considered. Google maps always turns red or amber where traffic is backing up, i.e. it already knows about these areas...my .02...
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Should be in the next few weeks..
I have to say...
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
right now, assuming it's 10:30 EST, and traffic is light, google maps from the web says 6.6 miles, and 14 min. This is the exact trip I made leaving around 16:30 EST, where I needed to arrive by 17:00 because the place was closing. My time wavered between 16:57 and 16:58. Point was, getting stuck in traffic did not cause the number to go beyond the time at which the place would close, even though I was stuck at multiple red lights backed up. The point is not that google can predict the future (say a trip from NYC to LA, I highly doubt it can get the arrival time correctly, too many variables), rather, our mindsets are changing. When it says we can get there by 16:58, it has already taken into account traffic, lights, etc. Sure, an accident can change that, but all the ordinary factors have been considered. Google maps always turns red or amber where traffic is backing up, i.e. it already knows about these areas...my .02...
...I tried it today on two different trips and by jingo, I think you have something there. The time did vary but it was only by a minute or two. I was amazed that the traffic lights didn't alter the time given when I first pulled up the route. Learned something new. However, I don't think I would use it on a long trip given the data that it would probably use along with the smaller screen on my iphone 5s. But, I must say, I was surprised that it was that accurate.
"Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
Might as well
do my part in reaching page four today (and increasing my post count) and bump the thread.
Nuvi 2598 | Nuvi 350 | eTrex Vista | eTrex 30x
About time for the new update to 2017.4
Did someone say it's coming next week ?
What
not even to page 4 yet?
Garmin Nuvi 765T, Garmin Drive 60LM
Someone may have said it...
Did someone say it's coming next week ?
...but no one knows for sure (except for maybe the map release dude or dudette at Garmin).
"Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
Well ...
...I tried it today on two different trips and by jingo, I think you have something there. The time did vary but it was only by a minute or two. I was amazed that the traffic lights didn't alter the time given when I first pulled up the route. Learned something new. However, I don't think I would use it on a long trip given the data that it would probably use along with the smaller screen on my iphone 5s. But, I must say, I was surprised that it was that accurate.
Google uses massive servers that can process all sorts of stuff, your Garmin has its on board processor and that's it. Course it will work in the absence of a phone signal ...
Where there's a will ... there's a way ... DriveSmart51LMT-S, DriveSmart50LMT-D, Nuvi 2508LMT-D, 1490LMT, 1310, Montana 650T, Etrex 20
in my case
Not going anywhere for a while so don't need the update but it is always nice to have a reason to get Jill Map out and test her out. She hides in the closet too much these days. She needs to see some sun.
google maps. The only reason I use the garmin is when in Canada and red light cams.
What's interesting is the mindset. Last Thu., I had someplace I had to be by 17:00 EST. google said 16:58 was my arrival, and I stressed out everytime traffic stopped, or I was at a light. At least with me, I forget that google already factored everything in real time. Meaning, the 16:58 arrival never changed at all, and that is when I arrived. With Garmin, it's a sick feeling seeing the time change...
..would be more accurate than a Garmin. There are too many factors that goes into the equation for the time not to change. For example, there is an intersection near me that if you hit the red light on the north-south direction, you will sit there for approx. 2 minutes and 45 seconds. I have timed this thing repeatedly. Therefore, if I am using Google and I drive through this intersection, and I hit the red, my time is going to be off by 2 minutes 45 seconds. Conversely, if I hit the green, I am going to be 2 minutes 45 seconds earlier. There is no way for Google to know if that light is going to be red or green when I get to the intersection. Also, on that section of road, if you hit one light, you are likely going to hit two or three more that are going to be red, even though the lights are controlled by cross-traffic. So, with the lights being controlled by cross-traffic, there is no way to know if you are going to hit a red.
is believing. As long as you don't try it for yourself, I suppose you would still believe that Garmin is the only way to fly.
and see what happens.
right now, assuming it's 10:30 EST, and traffic is light, google maps from the web says 6.6 miles, and 14 min. This is the exact trip I made leaving around 16:30 EST, where I needed to arrive by 17:00 because the place was closing. My time wavered between 16:57 and 16:58. Point was, getting stuck in traffic did not cause the number to go beyond the time at which the place would close, even though I was stuck at multiple red lights backed up. The point is not that google can predict the future (say a trip from NYC to LA, I highly doubt it can get the arrival time correctly, too many variables), rather, our mindsets are changing. When it says we can get there by 16:58, it has already taken into account traffic, lights, etc. Sure, an accident can change that, but all the ordinary factors have been considered. Google maps always turns red or amber where traffic is backing up, i.e. it already knows about these areas...my .02...
...I tried it today on two different trips and by jingo, I think you have something there. The time did vary but it was only by a minute or two. I was amazed that the traffic lights didn't alter the time given when I first pulled up the route. Learned something new. However, I don't think I would use it on a long trip given the data that it would probably use along with the smaller screen on my iphone 5s. But, I must say, I was surprised that it was that accurate.
it was useful because if it had said my arrival were 5:05 pm...I would not have attempted and waited until the next evening...but 4:58 was a go to me....maybe even next time I would have relaxed more and not attempted as it was too close for comfort ...
Will It Be?
Is this the week?
I dunno ....
Seems to me that there's too much activity with GE. In the past, that's been a precursor ....

If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem quickly resembles a nail. (Maslow's Hammer)
Dudette!
Did someone say it's coming next week ?
...but no one knows for sure (except for maybe the map release dude or dudette at Garmin).
Dudette!
Politicians and Diapers must be changed often for the exact same reason...
Is it here yet
Still looking.
Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)
Female dude
Did someone say it's coming next week ?
...but no one knows for sure (except for maybe the map release dude or dudette at Garmin).
Dudette!
This is what I call my granddaughters.

(Feel free to use this term if you so desire.)
"Everything I need can be found in the presence of God. Every. Single. Thing." Charley Hartmann 2/11/1956-6/11/2022
page 4
Time for page 4 and I'm still sticking by my orignal prediction.
garry