Speed Camera Question

Probably state and/or local laws set the conditions for triggering violations. And there'd be no randomness to it: If they CAN get your money they WOULD get your money.

Phil

Per a database on this site, Calif does not have any state laws regarding speed enforcement.

And local authorities enforcing this would be unlikely. Unlike RLC, no posted signs warning about the speed cameras.

Arizona, when it had them, Tucson and Pima County would not ticket Mexican Plates and any that would be a pain to run down. There are still a few towns, Phoenix for one that still have them here, but the voters are getting fed up!!!

Chandler AZ has installed a bunch of new camera and is restarting the enforcement big time!

You might not have been fined because you get alarms for cameras that measure the cross traffic or the traffic in the other direction. The GPS POI files can's make the difference.

I don't know what the rules in Calif. are these days, but the speed laws in Ca. used to be "Prima Facia" meaning, you were free to drive at whatever speed was safe up to the speed limit.

So if the speed limit was say 65 MPH and the road was covered with ice, the Prima Facia speed limit would likely be 0 (zero) or close to it. But those were some 50 years ago.. I dunno what the laws are these days...

But then again you really need to think seriously about Frima-Facia laws especially in a state that would elect a Governor named "Moon Beam" on two different occasions...

Why does Garmin show the speed limit an Primary road and not on secondary road? as soon I enter a Primary road it show up again.

Incomplete data supplied by the locality.

Just a few years ago there wasn't any speed limits throughout all of Canada.

They started introducing it slowly on highways and main roads & today the majority of roads display the speed limit.

I believe that the secondary roads that aren't displayed is because "Here" hasn't included them yet in their map set.

In my neighborhood some secondary roads do not display the speed limit whereas the main roads do therefore I do not believe it's a locality issue.

When I come back from work, driving down a certain street will not display the speed limit for two blocks but then will appear for all the upcoming blocks.

Knowing this, I believe it's just a question of time before the speed limits are introduced onto the secondary roads

In the People's Republic of Maryland, you have to be going more than 12 mph over the limit for the camera to trigger.

And I may not, I thought the more than 12 MPH thing was true except in construction zones where it was greater than 7 And in school areas where it was more than 4.

There have always been speed limits displayed, or do you mean on the Garmin itself. Which is what I think you mean.

Good discussion..

Sure it would be nice to have speed limits for all roads, but its already getting tough to update maps. All that info takes up disk space, is that more important then Junction views or other info?

They aren't in charge of the traffic light violations but California definitely has laws regarding speed. If you don't believe me, zoom past a Highway Patrol officer at high speed. My son is a CHP officer and he has given plenty of speeding tickets.

Note: While they are called the California Highway Patrol they are also the official state police. Their jurisdiction is NOT limited to the highways. They can most definitely ticket you in town. Also, having retired from state service I can tell you for certain that any issue on state property is handled by the CHP - not the local police.

On the Garmin

It is just using the information in the data base. There may be no speed info for secondary roads.

Is there any chance it could be an RLC alert?

Interesting. Thanks

I think you may be misinterpreting the original poster's statement. I believe he is referring to a database that was referenced in another thread at http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/auto_enforce.htm

This listed the States that have specific laws governing the administration and use of cameras as traffic enforcement tools. For California, the table states "Speed: No state law or programs".

So, California has all kinds of laws governing speeds limits, and both municipalities and the State enforce those laws. But there is no specific legislation that controls or restricts the use of cameras, or the process for issuance of camera tickets.

I remember as a kid enjoying the TV show CHiPs.

Prior to 1995 there was a "State Police" agency in Cali. They merged with CHP.

https://www.chp.ca.gov/home/about-us/the-history-of-the-cali...

Start a campaign to get rid of RLCs and speed cameras. Don't run red lights and don't speed over 7-8 mph maybe slower in school zones and construction areas. Ahh and lest us not forget safety areas on the interstate in NM. Cameras cost money to operate, take away the source, the cameras go away.

In Ohio, the company (I think RedFlex) reviews the image and sends the ticket to the local police.
A policeman looks at it, and if he thinks it is an infraction, allows the ticket to be mailed to the owner of the vehicle.

The person either pays it, fights it or ignores it. It is a civil fine, not a criminal or moving violation.

hmmm....if we don't run red lights, are you saying that we won't have to care whether an intersection has a rlc or not?

I have to admit it steams me when I'm sitting at a rlc intersection, and to avoid waiting and avoid a ticket, a vehicle crosses the double yellow and proceeds to make a left turn. That's probably what's missing, we have to somehow let go of the fact that there will always be those who beat the system...