Interesting Speed Cam Statistics

 
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deep pockets

My guess is that someone else is paying their fines,and with Maryland being so close to DC, I would not be surprised if it wasn't our own government paying these fines,how's that for deep pockets.

Now, Now

You know our Gov Officials are honest, law abiding folks, they file honest Tax returns and promptly pay their taxes. They would of coarse pay any fines for tickets out of their own pockets.

Maybe

pol555 wrote:

My guess is that someone else is paying their fines,and with Maryland being so close to DC, I would not be surprised if it wasn't our own government paying these fines,how's that for deep pockets.

They could also be rental cars with different drivers who are not familiar enough with the area to avoid these things.

However

Just cause a ticket was issued does not mean it was paid.

Not So Fast

pol555 wrote:

My guess is that someone else is paying their fines, and with Maryland being so close to DC, I would not be surprised if it wasn't our own government paying these fines, how's that for deep pockets.

I'm not sure how it works in DC but in Alberta the provincial, and most municipal, agencies would NOT simply pay up for a camera ticket.

Tickets might be sent to a central Fleet Maintenance, but then the fine would be tracked back to the person the vehicle was assigned to. When assigned a provincial vehicle, part of the written agreement is the designate is personally responsible for all traffic tickets. The agency might pay the fine initially, but the employee would have to reimburse the agency. And I know of several fellow employees that had to pay up for camera tickets. It might take a few months, but the agency got their money back.

Maryland .......

...... What's in YOUR wallet?

Would be an Interesting Statistic

Panache wrote:

Just cause a ticket was issued does not mean it was paid.

to see just how many fines for these tickets are actually collected.

system works

windwalker wrote:

You know our Gov Officials are honest, law abiding folks, they file honest Tax returns and promptly pay their taxes. They would of coarse pay any fines for tickets out of their own pockets.

I missed a tax credit thanks to Turbo Tax (go figure).

Filed an amended return.

Amended returns take longer and must be done by paper.

I got a check in the mail 7 weeks later, and the IRS paid 2% APY on the refunded amount.

That's a pretty fair system--it was my error (or Turbo Tax's), and the IRS paid interest on the refund, at 2% APY.

this is getting to be

tomturtle wrote:
pol555 wrote:

My guess is that someone else is paying their fines,and with Maryland being so close to DC, I would not be surprised if it wasn't our own government paying these fines,how's that for deep pockets.

They could also be rental cars with different drivers who are not familiar enough with the area to avoid these things.

an issue with electronic tolling. Toll is $2.25 no cash accepted. Rental car co. gets the toll, adds a $35 admin fee, and charges the renter $37.25, for multiple times.

This is how they sell the variants of "plate pass" or whatever they want to call it, i.e. a toll buffet. Just pay $235 for your 7 day rental, and all the tolls are included.

I seriously wonder if anyone has ever rented a car at EWR, and then made 20 trips to Brooklyn in a week to spite the rental car co....

I bet folks did it to Ally Bank, who used to offer unlimited ATM fee reimbursement.

edit: I have a long term loaner provided by one of the mfgs under the Takata airbag recall, I may have it for another 3 mos., 9 mos., or 2 years--nobody knows. I tried to add the plate to my EZPass account, and it kicked-back this plate is already in the system...well, at minimum, there would be no violation, I would have to dispute any admin fees. But the car mfg is covering the CDW so I would think they would cover toll misreads.

Must be nice

Must be nice to be able to fork out $40.00 44 times.

having spent the last half week

in MD and DC, what I find interesting about MD in particular, is that folks do not use the 12 mph leeway. They seem to keep under or at the speed limit where there are speed cams. The program seems to be doing exactly what it was designed to do. Nobody can complain about $40, in 2016, while being given 11.999999999999 mph over. As a matter of fact, from what I could find, that 12 mph was in fact designed to allow for a full 10+ starting in 2009. Meaning, you're doing 35 in a 25, you're good. < 2009, 35 in a 25, you're busted. imho most people in their analog minds would do things in 5 mph increments. So 15 would be a little too soft (40 in a 25).

Even That Leeway

johnnatash4 wrote:

in MD and DC, what I find interesting about MD in particular, is that folks do not use the 12 mph leeway. They seem to keep under or at the speed limit where there are speed cams. The program seems to be doing exactly what it was designed to do. Nobody can complain about $40, in 2016, while being given 11.999999999999 mph over. As a matter of fact, from what I could find, that 12 mph was in fact designed to allow for a full 10+ starting in 2009. Meaning, you're doing 35 in a 25, you're good. < 2009, 35 in a 25, you're busted. imho most people in their analog minds would do things in 5 mph increments. So 15 would be a little too soft (40 in a 25).

Is more than I will use. 3-5 mph over is about my limit, but that is about it. I am not a very trusting soul when it comes to things like this.
And yes, 3 mph is speeding, but let us not be pedantic about this.

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I do notice

RedRevrnd wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

in MD and DC, what I find interesting about MD in particular, is that folks do not use the 12 mph leeway. They seem to keep under or at the speed limit where there are speed cams. The program seems to be doing exactly what it was designed to do. Nobody can complain about $40, in 2016, while being given 11.999999999999 mph over. As a matter of fact, from what I could find, that 12 mph was in fact designed to allow for a full 10+ starting in 2009. Meaning, you're doing 35 in a 25, you're good. < 2009, 35 in a 25, you're busted. imho most people in their analog minds would do things in 5 mph increments. So 15 would be a little too soft (40 in a 25).

Is more than I will use. 3-5 mph over is about my limit, but that is about it. I am not a very trusting soul when it comes to things like this.
And yes, 3 mph is speeding, but let us not be pedantic about this.

That from my observation, people are similar to you, and I feel they are the "locals," that is, they know not only is there a speed cam, but where it is on the block.

It gets old, with "PHOTO ENFORCED" everywhere, one simply adjusts to following the rules.

In my own surrounds, I know exactly when to proceed on yellow, even with a RLC. But in DC/MD, I do not.

I conservatively braked on yellow and stopped just before red in DC. The Camry behind me easily stopped, and it seemed very normal. Up here, that person would have thrown their hands up in the air and shouted lol

Special Situation

I try to be faithful to the speed limits in work zones, especially when there's actually work going on. I'm surprised that the annual death rate for highway workers in Maryland is 7.2, as stated in the article. Seems high.

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They don't stop in CT.

johnnatash4 wrote:
RedRevrnd wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

in MD and DC, what I find interesting about MD in particular, is that folks do not use the 12 mph leeway. They seem to keep under or at the speed limit where there are speed cams. The program seems to be doing exactly what it was designed to do. Nobody can complain about $40, in 2016, while being given 11.999999999999 mph over. As a matter of fact, from what I could find, that 12 mph was in fact designed to allow for a full 10+ starting in 2009. Meaning, you're doing 35 in a 25, you're good. < 2009, 35 in a 25, you're busted. imho most people in their analog minds would do things in 5 mph increments. So 15 would be a little too soft (40 in a 25).

Is more than I will use. 3-5 mph over is about my limit, but that is about it. I am not a very trusting soul when it comes to things like this.
And yes, 3 mph is speeding, but let us not be pedantic about this.

That from my observation, people are similar to you, and I feel they are the "locals," that is, they know not only is there a speed cam, but where it is on the block.

It gets old, with "PHOTO ENFORCED" everywhere, one simply adjusts to following the rules.

In my own surrounds, I know exactly when to proceed on yellow, even with a RLC. But in DC/MD, I do not.

I conservatively braked on yellow and stopped just before red in DC. The Camry behind me easily stopped, and it seemed very normal. Up here, that person would have thrown their hands up in the air and shouted lol

I have been living and working in CT for the past 10 months, and it amazes me how many people blow through red lights and stop signs. the other day a lady was on my ass when I was coming to a stop sign. Made a stop and she honked at me because I stopped at a stop sign. Almost got out and asked what was wrong with my truck to see if that was why she was honking at me. Oh well, all I can say is "slow down", you'll live longer.

Be safe out there and watch in front, and behind. Since nobody gets pulled over anymore for doing stupid stuff, it just escalates...

i Don't Care

What state I'm in, I do my best to be within the speed limit.

I couldn't care less if the state has a "Prima Facia" speed limit.

I've been in Md., and understand they are somewhat more leinient than say the Tx. DPS which tends to cite at +4 above the posted speed limit (in a 65 MPH area that's a 10% Grace and certainly allows for speedometer variances).

In Nc., their laws clearly state, should you be cited AND CONVICTED OF DRIVING ABOVE 75 MPH YOU CAN LOOSE YOUR LICENSE. Yet, I've been on I-40, I-95 and I-85 in Nc., and have witnessed drivers pass HWP officers In excess of 75 and more like 80 with impunity.

I'm convinced people in Nc., view every thoroughfare as a NASCAR speedway where they only know how to go fast, turn left, don't signal, not use breaks and receive 10 bonus points for cutting off others and or mowing down pedestrians!! YOWZER!!

But places that don't bother to cite until ewe are +12 or more above only encourage people to speed and otherwise be reckless.

I personally would welcome an aggressive national enforcement of anything of 10% above the posted limit and 100% citing when driving at an unsafe speed for conditions regardless of the posted speed limit.

The day is conning where one or more folks with dash cams are going to capture someone exceeding the limit and an officer not do anything to enforce the law be civially and it criminally charged in a traffic incident because they didn't enforce the laws they swore to uphold and enforce without regard what a judge might impose as a punishment or even discharge.

So there! I've said my two cents worth.

I still don't like or support RLC's, Speed Cams, Stop Sign Cams, Seatbelt Cams, Right Turn On Red Cams or Cams that give citations for flatuance in public! mrgreen

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