Found an answer, but I would have thought it would have done this automatically

 

Our new 2689LMT Garmin, suddenly, when we use it on the way up our 1.5 lane mountain roads, where we just moved, and the garmin displays no roads...

Only having background with a Nuvi 660, I tried to find the setting where I could add more detail... no such setting on the 2689.....

In my playing around, I found that If I did a route to our new home, it Would show the roads, but if I stop the route to our home, the roads disappear: screen goes blank (Shows no roads) again... Solid White....

Further information.... The Icon for our house IS SEEN, as is the SUV Icon, And, the Icon does move around on the all white screen as it would if there had been roads displayed so it is seeing the route, just not displaying it!

Finally, I hit the "+" Button on left side of the screen, and the roads then displayed!!! Apparently at one time or another, It had zoomed out, and the narrow mountain roads were outside of the range of the garmin to display.......

All this testing and examinations took place over a timeframe of 2-3 weeks.... and during this time we had used it for trips up to 800 miles from this location, and multiple power cycles.... but, when we arrived back in the mountains, as we went up the mountain roads, the roads disappeared, leaving us with a White screen and the "Our NC House" Icon floating closer and closer to us, as we approached it!!!
All roads display except the narrow ones leading to the house up the mountain...

So my question is: I've seen the Garmin Zoom In and Out as it goes through the map.... WHY IS IT that it 'forgot' to zoom in when it got to the narrow mountain roads, and in order for it to display, I had to hit the "+" button?

Is there a "More Detail" setting that I missed?

Thanks!

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

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I feel like we are missing the question.

So my question is: I've seen

So my question is: I've seen the Garmin Zoom In and Out as it goes through the map.... WHY IS IT that it 'forgot' to zoom in when it got to the narrow mountain roads, and in order for it to display, I had to hit the "+" button?

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Only time...

…only time my Garmin zooms in or out is when I have a route going and there's an upcoming turn to be made (intersection or exit). Haven't seen automatic zooming otherwise. There's a "Map Detail" setting in the "Map & Detail" settings on my Garmin 3490. Choices are "More", Normal", and "Less".

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Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav

Only time...

Sorry.I hit the Post button twice.

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Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav

The 2689

JanJ wrote:

So my question is: I've seen the Garmin Zoom In and Out as it goes through the map.... WHY IS IT that it 'forgot' to zoom in when it got to the narrow mountain roads, and in order for it to display, I had to hit the "+" button?

You may well be right but I'd like to rule out some other causes:

1) From page 14 of the owners manual

http://static.garmin.com/pumac/nuvi_25x9_26x9_OM_EN.pdf

it appears that you can set map detail. Unlike your old 660, the location of the map detail setting is different, and for me with my 3597, harder to find than with my old 855. Can you tap Settings/Map&Vehicle and see if you have a Map Detail option to click to More?

2) Are your mountain roads unpaved? Is your last mountain road quite long and ends at your driveway - or are there mountain turns? I might guess that unpaved roads and a long road ending at your driveway would more likely lead to the non-zoom in which could cause your missing roads.

The normal zoom level, when

The normal zoom level, when not navigating a route is .2 miles. As long as there is no route, it will stay there. You have to manually zoom in to see more detail. As far as during a route, the zoom level will stay at .2 until your speed reaches 59 1/2 mph, then it should zoom out to 1.2 miles. You can change this by using the manual zoom in or out. The unit will remember this while routing.

When you slow to 45 mph or lower it will zoom in to .2 again. As noted above, as you approach a turn or significant navigation point the unit will zoom in as close as 80 feet, but after you pass this point, it will zoom back the level your speed dictates.

I too, lament the loss of option features such as More or Less detail. I'm assuming it's not because Garmin thinks it knows better what we want to see, but rather removing features to cut costs.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Interesting

phranc wrote:

The normal zoom level, when not navigating a route is .2 miles. As long as there is no route, it will stay there. You have to manually zoom in to see more detail. As far as during a route, the zoom level will stay at .2 until your speed reaches 59 1/2 mph, then it should zoom out to 1.2 miles. You can change this by using the manual zoom in or out. The unit will remember this while routing.

When you slow to 45 mph or lower it will zoom in to .2 again. As noted above, as you approach a turn or significant navigation point the unit will zoom in as close as 80 feet, but after you pass this point, it will zoom back the level your speed dictates.

I too, lament the loss of option features such as More or Less detail. I'm assuming it's not because Garmin thinks it knows better what we want to see, but rather removing features to cut costs.

Learned something about the zooming I did not know, thx.

As for the more or less detail settings, my old 855 has it, Im sure my 3790 had it too. It's in the car but I'm sure that my 2797 has these settings too. It's something I always set to highest detail.

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

@phranc

phranc wrote:

The normal zoom level, when not navigating a route is .2 miles. As long as there is no route, it will stay there. You have to manually zoom in to see more detail. As far as during a route, the zoom level will stay at .2 until your speed reaches 59 1/2 mph, then it should zoom out to 1.2 miles. You can change this by using the manual zoom in or out. The unit will remember this while routing.

When you slow to 45 mph or lower it will zoom in to .2 again. As noted above, as you approach a turn or significant navigation point the unit will zoom in as close as 80 feet, but after you pass this point, it will zoom back the level your speed dictates.

I too, lament the loss of option features such as More or Less detail. I'm assuming it's not because Garmin thinks it knows better what we want to see, but rather removing features to cut costs.

This would be a good FAQ to submit.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

'Normal' zoom level varies with use...

My experience on my Nuvi is a bit different when not navigating. It has 2 zoom levels as described above: zoomed in until speed goes over 59-60 mph then it zooms out. Slow to less than about 45 mph and it zooms back in. But on my unit, those two zoom levels are the last zoom levels that I’ve set while driving in those ranges. For example, I begin driving at 30 mph and the zoom is .25. I change the zoom from .25 to 1 mile. Then I go over 60 mph and it zooms out to the other setting, say 3 miles. When I slow to 40 mph, it’ll go back to 1 mile zoom, not .25.

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NUVI 350

Track Up?

MikeSid wrote:

My experience on my Nuvi is a bit different when not navigating. It has 2 zoom levels as described above: zoomed in until speed goes over 59-60 mph then it zooms out. Slow to less than about 45 mph and it zooms back in. But on my unit, those two zoom levels are the last zoom levels that I’ve set while driving in those ranges. For example, I begin driving at 30 mph and the zoom is .25. I change the zoom from .25 to 1 mile. Then I go over 60 mph and it zooms out to the other setting, say 3 miles. When I slow to 40 mph, it’ll go back to 1 mile zoom, not .25.

It sounds like you use North Up or Track Up, both 2D maps. I wonder if there's a difference in auto-zoom between the 2D and 3D map displays.

Hmm, I wonder if the level of detail and the OP's disappearing roads could also be affected by 2D vs. 3D. I use 3D. What do you use, JanJ? I'm also very interested to see if you found the Map Detail Less/Normal/More setting and if More solves your problem.

I would, but in's not

I would, but in's not complete. For instance, if you are running over 60, navigating and go to the menu page, the screen will zoom back to .2 and will not zoom in or out no matter what your speed.

One way to fix this is to press - four times while moving more than 60 and routing. The other way is to do a hard reset. Sometimes forcing Off by holding the Off button until it asks to shut down. Sometimes that doesn't work.

If you ARE NOT routing, there is no way to reliably force zoom in and out with speed as did my old 360 or 760. You can zoom out manually at speed above 60 and it will zoom in when you slow down, but it's not a given that it will zoom back out when you speed up. It certainly won't if you put it to sleep and awaken.

Garmin never would admit that they had changed the software on this feature. They actually gave me 2 brand new 2555s when I complained about it.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

My settings

Just checked: Under Settings/Map&Vehicle, I am set for 3D map, and yes, there is Map Detail there, and it is set for: MORE (The most detail).

Ever since I zoomed in and saw the roads (paved, but mountain roads). Ever since I zoomed in, the problem with the blank screen has gone away, and not returned.... So Yes, there does seem to be different operation on the 2689LMT compared to the Nuvi 660,which never did this.

(Do a search of: 440 Crystal Tree Drive, Waynesville, NC)

Hemphill and Neds Cove roads displayed, Crystal Tree didn't, until I
manually zoomed in....

Once you see the roads, you will understand that I was going WAY under 59MPH!!! smile!
Still, it's interesting that I had to zoom in, in order to see any roads....

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

A neat area

JanJ wrote:

Just checked: Under Settings/Map&Vehicle, I am set for 3D map, and yes, there is Map Detail there, and it is set for: MORE (The most detail).

Ever since I zoomed in and saw the roads (paved, but mountain roads). Ever since I zoomed in, the problem with the blank screen has gone away, and not returned.... So Yes, there does seem to be different operation on the 2689LMT compared to the Nuvi 660,which never did this.

(Do a search of: 440 Crystal Tree Drive, Waynesville, NC)

Hemphill and Neds Cove roads displayed, Crystal Tree didn't, until I
manually zoomed in....

Once you see the roads, you will understand that I was going WAY under 59MPH!!! smile!
Still, it's interesting that I had to zoom in, in order to see any roads....

Very nice area. I hope you don't get a lot of snow. You're just off I-40, just like me. Does that make us neighbors? wink I see that Google Maps doesn't offer StreetView of the windey streets yet. It wouldn't surprise me that in a future Garmin map update, you may be able to continue to see your streets even when zoomed out.

It sounds like things are worked out for you now. It is always a surprise with a new nuvi, especially if the older one was quite old, to see that the new one handles some things differently from what you would have expected based on knowledge of the older nuvi.

Well, we are newly retired.

Well, we are newly retired. If we encounter too much snow, we'll just stay inside until it melts! That's why we designed in a walk in pantry.
If you saw the ariel view, the bulldozer isn't there any more.... That pix was taken in Feb 2013 the day they finished bulldozing the foundation.

We're off exit 20... On Purchase Knob , GRIN!!! OK!! You're at the other end of the pool! grin!

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A 2689LMT in both our cars that we love... and a Nuvi 660 with Lifetime Maps that we have had literally forever.... And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that is totally ignored!

Good catch

Yes, I always use Track Up. I don't like the distortion of distances with the 3D. I like to be able to look at the map and estimate how far away features are.

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NUVI 350

No Zoom memory on new nuvis?

I don't like that my new nuvi doesn't remember my zoom settings. All my previous models did. They remembered my preferred fast and slow zoom levels. Now, every time I slow down it zooms back in to 0.2 mi and I have to zoom back out while driving at highway speed. That's a safety hazard for sure.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

I think it is normal

I think it is normal behavior. Even my old model 750 will zoom in and out automatically at times.

yes, but the new ones

don't seem to zoom back out when you speed up.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

What phranc....

phranc wrote:

The normal zoom level, when not navigating a route is .2 miles. As long as there is no route, it will stay there. You have to manually zoom in to see more detail. As far as during a route, the zoom level will stay at .2 until your speed reaches 59 1/2 mph, then it should zoom out to 1.2 miles. You can change this by using the manual zoom in or out. The unit will remember this while routing.

When you slow to 45 mph or lower it will zoom in to .2 again. As noted above, as you approach a turn or significant navigation point the unit will zoom in as close as 80 feet, but after you pass this point, it will zoom back the level your speed dictates.

I too, lament the loss of option features such as More or Less detail. I'm assuming it's not because Garmin thinks it knows better what we want to see, but rather removing features to cut costs.

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gdfaini wrote:

I don't like that my new nuvi doesn't remember my zoom settings. All my previous models did. They remembered my preferred fast and slow zoom levels. Now, every time I slow down it zooms back in to 0.2 mi and I have to zoom back out while driving at highway speed. That's a safety hazard for sure.

gdfaini wrote:

don't seem to zoom back out when you speed up.

I observed a similar behavior with my 3597.

It zooms in and out automatically from a cold boot until it exits from the very first navigation mode then it will only zoom in as you have described. It is a pain in the behind and, I agree with you, it could be a safity hazard.

Work around (painful): Turn off the 3597 every time after a navigation run. It will then zoom in and out automatically while cruising around and remember the slow/fast zoom levels until it is turned off. Waking up from sleep mode does not recover the auto-zoom.

Hope this work-around works for you.