went right through a rlc on red, without stopping, and total confidence

 

Well, ok, maybe 95% confidence. The remaining 5% acknowledges that anything is possible.

It was an intersection in a state other than my own, where the right turn lane gets diverted. Again, I saw a flash, but let's think this one through--pics are taken, video is captured, and it will show my vehicle making a right turn without stopping,using a right turn lane, exactly as the lane was designed. If I am issued a ticket, pretty sure that's a faulty system and the town/city will get bupkis. A video can neither lie nor make things up, it shows what took place.

Really...

Keep us updated with the scenario.

all kidding aside

allbizz wrote:

Keep us updated with the scenario.

I feel the video shows exactly what happened...without video, I admit, it could get dicey. But then again, every single car who decided and decides to make a right turn faces the same outcome as mine....so it has to be logical. RLCs don't fine undeserving motorists barring equipment failure....

Even though the land is for right turn

I thought you still have to stop before you turn on red even if the lane is designed for right turns.
Doesn't the law say "Right turn on Red after Stop"?

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The results will be

The results will be interesting.

Do you realize?

johnnatash4 wrote:

but let's think this one through ...

Do you realize that you are expecting government to act in a rational manner? While you actions may be correct, I don't see where your conclusion is based on good evidence.

haha

zeaflal wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

but let's think this one through ...

Do you realize that you are expecting government to act in a rational manner? While you actions may be correct, I don't see where your conclusion is based on good evidence.

I google earthed the intersection to see what it looked like exactly, because I was going with the flow on that right turn. The lane clearly veers off to the right and there is no stop line. On the google earth there are multiple cars seeming to turn while traffic is stopped that is proceeding straight and turning left.

Again, everything is 1080p today, cameras cannot lie unless the vids are edited. What municipality would go that far? That would be a society run amok. We're not there, yet.

Is it

Is it one of the right hand lanes that has an island between the straight lanes? Here they usually have a yield sign and you can turn right without stopping.
I just assumed it was a right turn beside the straight lanes.

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will follow with interest

I have always wondered what would happen so looking forward to the updates!

kinda

mgarledge wrote:

Is it one of the right hand lanes that has an island between the straight lanes? Here they usually have a yield sign and you can turn right without stopping.
I just assumed it was a right turn beside the straight lanes.

What you describe, but no island. From google earth, I see there is no stop line nor is there a yield, and I did follow other cars whom I assume were local yocals. 9 days later no ticket, but it could take 14. Again, with everything being recorded, it would be bizarre to be afraid of a 1080p video showing that you did not break the law....

johnnatash4 wrote: Well, ok,

johnnatash4 wrote:

Well, ok, maybe 95% confidence. The remaining 5% acknowledges that anything is possible.

It was an intersection in a state other than my own, where the right turn lane gets diverted. Again, I saw a flash, but let's think this one through--pics are taken, video is captured, and it will show my vehicle making a right turn without stopping,using a right turn lane, exactly as the lane was designed. If I am issued a ticket, pretty sure that's a faulty system and the town/city will get bupkis. A video can neither lie nor make things up, it shows what took place.

I think if you'd identify the intersection, you could find members with knowledge of how things work there. Being out of state puts you a a disadvantage as traffic laws may differ from you home state.

Have seen those diverted

Have seen those diverted right lanes before / constant green arrow - with the silly sign about other traffic - however, they rarely have the large bolder bumps to keep people in the lane (on the road they turned into) - talk about an accident waiting to happen.

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Keep in mind I pass through 6 per day on my daily commute, 7 if I go an alternate route, almost 5 years now and never a ticket.

Ok, no ticket from the locale where we went on this thread.

Anyway, on Thu., I had to come to a complete stop on green at a RLC intersection, while wanting to turn left, due to a homeless person jaywalking. The person behind me had no issue stopping, but I saw him shaking his head as was I.

I think the yellow light rear-ended scenario is hogwash. Having to stop unexpectedly on green should be far worse, yet the person had no issue whatsoever, not even close.

I get that people would rather not be watched, would rather not be fined, and would rather be free to do whatever they want. Just come out and say it. But to claim RLCs cause accidents is really a stretch.

I don't want to get a fine either, but after 5 years, what's the likelihood?

Usually you need two flashes.

At least on the New York cameras I have seen (and have received tickets from). The first shows where you were when the light turned red, the second shows where you were on the far side of the line, and how many tenths of a second later. As far as what you describe, usually they adjust the target area to skip camera areas where there is no traffic enforcement, like the area you describe with no traffic markings and a semi divided right turn area. Your mileage may vary though.

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yep

camerabob wrote:

At least on the New York cameras I have seen (and have received tickets from). The first shows where you were when the light turned red, the second shows where you were on the far side of the line, and how many tenths of a second later. As far as what you describe, usually they adjust the target area to skip camera areas where there is no traffic enforcement, like the area you describe with no traffic markings and a semi divided right turn area. Your mileage may vary though.

This totally supports the video that my buddy emailed me a link to from FLA.

The video shows an Audi, then his Lincoln, both running the light (keep in mind, the light turned from yellow to red, once, and only once). However, it flashed twice on him, none on the Audi in front of him. That supports the notion that the system arms a split second AFTER red.

Short of all out manipulation or photochopping, there is absolutely positively nobody who gets a ticket who doesn't deserve one. All the technology in the world cannot make a person run a red light when in fact they did not. As a matter of fact, one person each cycle gets a pass.