Built-in Auto GPS Systems

 

2014 Toyota Sienna with the factory built-in navigation system. Not only is the info often vague, but 15% of the time totally erroneous! It is deficient enough that it will play a part in my decision to stay with Toyota in the future. Is anyone aware of any built in systems using Garmin data? I always found the hand held Garmin units to be spot on! Garmin usually will take you right to the mailbox and this Toyota system will throw you into the back yard of the next street over!

After 1.5 years with the Toyota Sienna built in NAV system, it has led me astray way too many frustrating times to keep me as a customer for my vehicle.

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nuvi' 2450
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Built in GPS not even a consideration for me

I never considered the built in GPS when I bought my last two cars after having used a Garmin for over the past 10 years. There's no reason why the auto manufacturers try to package the navigation with other high tech toys like reverse cameras and then charge two thousand dollars for it. Then when it comes to needing a map upgrade, they want another couple of hundred dollars.

I prefer the portability of my Garmin and free lifetime traffic and maps. IMHO

too expensive, inflexible

I also have never been willing to consider a 1-2k navigation device that is built into the car. It is completely inadequate and inflexible for my needs. I have yet to see one that I could update maps myself like a Garmin, add custom POIs, manage routes, etc. I plan trips ahead while sitting at my computer looking information up, and building my route on my Garmin. Cannot do this with a car GPS. Cannot move it to a rental car or a friend's car either.

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___________________ Garmin 2455, 855, Oregon 550t

Navtech before here.com

cellmerch wrote:

Is anyone aware of any built in systems using Garmin data?

Possibly something has changed, but as of a few years ago I believe the great majority of auto built-in systems used Navtech mapping data. So did Garmin (you do know that Garmin is not itself a primary mapping data source?).

The name has changed to here.com, but I suspect this is still the case. It is hugely expensive to build up full street-level mapping over wide areas, so there are very few suppliers, and the relationships tend to be sticky.

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personal GPS user since 1992

Same Issue

My father in law has a 2012 Toyota Tundra with the built-in nav system. After experiencing some of the same issues you mentioned, he took the vehicle back to the dealer. They told him he needed a map update and quoted him a price of $400 ! Instead, he bought a Nuvi with lifetime maps and traffic for roughly half that price.

IMO, the only advantage to built-in nav systems is they get around some state laws concerning windshield vision obstruction caused by dashboard mounted electronic devices.

Highlander

I just bought a 2014 Highlander. I wanted to get it WITHOUT navigation, but since we got the Limited, it came as standard. It uses the Entune Navigation system. I do not like as well as my Garmin, but it is easy to use. Map updates are on a SD card that plugs into the front, and the updated maps are not free. When we travel, we will take our Garmin 3500 and stick it on the dash like we always have. So far, my playing with the built in nav, it has been as accurate as my Garmin. I like my Garmin very much, mostly because of all the POIs I can add, voices, graphics, and its overall user friendliness. Is it possible you have been to address on new roads. Like I said, my Entune system has been really accurate, but we have only had our Highlander and only looked up a couple specific addresses. It also has voice command.

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Unless you are the lead sled dog, the view never changes. I is retard... every day is Saturday! I still own the StreetPilot c340, and the Garmin Nuvi 765t, but upgraded to the NO "recalculating", 3590 LMT.

How about drawbacks of not getting one

There is another price to be considered when NOT getting built in navigation. In many cases this means no display for other functions a driver may find useful. It is an entirely different setup if you buy the same vehicle without gps.

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Nuvi 760 Nuvi 2598 LMT Nuvi 3597 LMT Garmin Streetpilot Onboard for iPhone

No drawback for me

I have the 1490 gps and my 2010 Prius has the built in unit. I just finished a trip to LA and Phoenix and used both units. Updating the Prius GPS cost me $129 a year so I guess the dealer sets the price.
I did enjoy the two units trying to tell the next turn. Usually the built in unit won but I like the ability to preplan a route for if I let both units set my trip, they would take the longer route. My way back from Phoenix saved me 2 hours of travel. I guess the new Toyota GPS units today can be programmed better.

The deal is...

archae86 wrote:
cellmerch wrote:

Is anyone aware of any built in systems using Garmin data?

Possibly something has changed, but as of a few years ago I believe the great majority of auto built-in systems used Navtech mapping data. So did Garmin (you do know that Garmin is not itself a primary mapping data source?).

The name has changed to here.com, but I suspect this is still the case. It is hugely expensive to build up full street-level mapping over wide areas, so there are very few suppliers, and the relationships tend to be sticky.

Naveteq was a stand alone company... Nokia bought Navteq... Nokia sold it's hardware business to Microsoft and kept software/services and rebranded Naveteq and bundled associated software& services as "Here".

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

I consider current (2014) infotainment/GPS/Social Media ...

1... in dash systems a negative, and it has certainly contributed to my decision to delay an order for a 4Runner Trail-Premium (which would have been custom built at the factory).

2. I believe Garmin has just announced a partnership w/GM for NAV systems for the Cadillac line.

3. My own preference: a Nissan/BOSE indash 6 CD/MP3 changer, bluetooth integrated, a 5" (KISS) Nuvi on the side, below windshield level (thus en route, custom POI, hotel room programmable).
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A more lively question might be whether these OEM systems are really front end Trojans and not simply TV marketing ploys?

I actually prefer the GM built in navigation

I actually prefer the GM built in navigation in my car for 3 main reasons:

1. The 7" touch screen is far more sophisticated than any of the high end Garmin's I have owned, it is not as simple to learn as a Garmin but it has many useful and nice features that are not available on my Garmin.

2. It is always ready to go and do not have to mount and unmount every time I park the car outside of the garage.

3. The most important of the three is that the navigation next turn info, direction and distance to turn is displayed in the Heads Up windshield Display which becomes a huge safety feature when not having to take your eyes off of the road when traveling in very busy cities like Phoenix or LA.

I use my Garmin 3790 LMT as a backup, on foot or in a vehicle that doesn't have Navigation built in.

The only features my Garmin has that the built in GM unit doesn't have is the ability to add custom POI's.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Try

cellmerch wrote:

Is anyone aware of any built in systems using Garmin data? I always found the hand held Garmin units to be spot on!

Try Chrysler. They have used the Garmin system for a number of years but I haven't checked lately to see if they still do.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD and TomTom XXL540s, HereWeGo for Android.

I think the one (only) main

I think the one (only) main advantage to the built-in on my Ford is that it is tied in to the vehicle audio system. When it speaks directions, the main program audio volume is reduced so there's no problem hearing the Nav voice. There's a few other things I like about it, (big screen, very realistic voice) but they are negated by the prohibitively expensive map updates: I think they (vendor) wanted $175 the last time I checked. (Thus I have never updated the map on this 2007 model-year vehicle.)

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"Primum Non Nocere" 2595LMT Clear Channel and Navteq Traffic

Garmin & Chrysler

I just bought a new 2014 Chrysler Town & Country 30 Year Anniversary Special. It has a Garmin built-in. I've had it 2 days now and use it every time I drive it. It seems to work well. I also have a 750, 850 and 2555 Nuvi's. It routes just like my 2555. I bought it 79 miles from home and the first thing I did was to program "Home" in it. It then routed me back home exactly in reverse of my 2555 which took me there.
PS. I drive it any chance I get. I am trying to discover how to set up all "10,000" options, and test them out.

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"Those that stop and smell the roses, must realize that once in awhile you may get a whiff of fertilizer."..copyright:HDHannah1986 -Mercedes GPS - UCONNECT 430N Chrysler T&C - Nuvi 2598- Nuni2555 - Nuvi855 - Nuvi295W - Nuvi 750 - Ique 3600

... and I'm sure when it comes time to trade your vehicle

... your Garmin/Chrysler system will add value to your trade, not detract like those soon to be obsolete 1.0 competitor front ends.

Here's what 2.0 will probably look like:

https://www.apple.com/pr/library/2014/03/03Apple-Rolls-Out-C...
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/google-introduces-android-aut...
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/apple-vs-google-the-battle-to...

Won't surprise me if 5/10 yrs from now non-tracking, non subscription, no wireless data fee, classic off grid capable MP3 auto-audio systems will be valued much higher then these 2014 front ends.

wink

No Built-in for Me

So far I've avoided having to buy a built-in navigation system in my autos. I much prefer my Garmin Nuvi. Can be moved from car to car, excellent maps and very good routing, free lifetime upgrades, and traffic.
The current non-navigation, built-in rear view camera monitor is pretty small in my Toyota, but useable. Probably some day all cars will be required to have built-in nav systems, like they're soon-to-be required to have back-up cameras.

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Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav

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And are map updates free?

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Michael (Nuvi 2639LMT)

Cost me less than $25 a year for the update map DVD's

Cyberian75 wrote:

And are map updates free?

The net cost to me for the last three yearly map updates for my GM factory built in nav unit ran less than $25 each after selling the prior year on eBay.

The convenience factor along with the added capabilities of my factory nav like the additional safety factor having the nav info displayed in the Heads Up Windshield Display is easily worth the $25 a year.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Built in GPS's

cellmerch wrote:

I have a 2014 Toyota Sienna with the built-in navigation system. Not only is the info vague, but 15% of the time totally erroneous! It is deficient enough that it will play a part in any decision to stay with Toyota in the future. Is anyone aware of any built in systems using Garmin data? I always found the hand held Garmin units to be spot on! Garmin usually will take you right to the mailbox and this Toyota system will throw you into the back yard of the next street over! LOL

Thanks everyone for the very informative responses!

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nuvi' 2450

Chrysler cars with built-in Garmin NAV systems

I just bought a 2014 Chrysler T&C with a built-in navigation system. It is powered by Garmin software and maps. It is very close to my nuvi2555 in screen layout.
I have tried most features on it ans it does route pretty good.
You can also load your own customs POIs.
All the Chrysler Corp. cars ( Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep ) use Garmin. The 430N entertainment center incorporates the NAV system along with VIDEO,RADIO,SIRIUSXM (radio and travel). The travel part lets the Nav system route to nearby gas stations you select by gas prices.
I,ve only had it 5 days but like it real well. I wont have to carry my 2555 any more except for my Amtrak excursions.

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"Those that stop and smell the roses, must realize that once in awhile you may get a whiff of fertilizer."..copyright:HDHannah1986 -Mercedes GPS - UCONNECT 430N Chrysler T&C - Nuvi 2598- Nuni2555 - Nuvi855 - Nuvi295W - Nuvi 750 - Ique 3600

Built-ins -- Jeep Grand Cherokee

Friend bought a new Jeep Grand Cherokee (Diesel) -- the package included built-in nav whether she wanted it or not.

It (and other computers) are giving her fits -- the nav system won't let you change anything while the car is in motion (not even the front seat passenger can change things).

At least the Garmin lets you tell it "I know what I'm doing" and get on with things!

(anybody know how to do that to the new Grand Cherokee nav system?)

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Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows

Built in s. jeep

k6rtm wrote:

Friend bought a new Jeep Grand Cherokee (Diesel) -- the package included built-in nav whether she wanted it or not.

It (and other computers) are giving her fits -- the nav system won't let you change anything while the car is in motion (not even the front seat passenger can change things).

At least the Garmin lets you tell it "I know what I'm doing" and get on with things!

(anybody know how to do that to the new Grand Cherokee nav system?)

Look at this site. Www.coastaletech.com

Go to home page and look at the Lockpick freedom in motation it works for all systems

Someone I know has one and they can do everything they want

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

2014 Harley Davidson

Just an FYI ...,

I talked to a friend that bought the new Ultra Classic with the 7" screen Nav system built in. Yes, it costs dearly, $159 for every map update.

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Harley BOOM, Zumo 665, (2) Nuvi 765Ts & 1450LMT | 2005 Harley Road King, 2015 Harley Ultra Limited

Built in, nyet, nada!

A couple of years ago I took a bus trip to Mexico City (I was in Mexico) and took my 3790 along and set my hotel as a waypoint. Mexico City is HUGE !!!!!

That let me walk and go all over the place and always find my way HOME.

Try to do that with a built in GPS!

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Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT Retired now, Nuvi 2797LMT, SmartDrive 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

This is what I do

Melaqueman wrote:

A couple of years ago I took a bus trip to Mexico City (I was in Mexico) and took my 3790 along and set my hotel as a waypoint. Mexico City is HUGE !!!!!

That let me walk and go all over the place and always find my way HOME.

Try to do that with a built in GPS!

I never kept my Nuvi in the car so when we were going local I would forget to take the Nuvi with us. I would use the tablet but before the Garmin Viago was released It wasn't the same.

I now use our new built in for local. I keep the tablet in my purse so when we are moving and locked out of the built in unit I use the Garmin Viago to see anything I need.

I take Nuvi 2450 when we rent a car or when we are going to walk and on long road trips, as I like to have everywhere we are going on vacation in routes. Haven't tried it and don't know if the built in does routes. The hand held unit is still very important for these reasons.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Ford

My wife purchased a 2011 Ford Taurus (when it was brand new) and it included the stupid onboard GPS system. I vastly prefer my old nüvi 760. We actually have used the built-in system a few times when we were somewhere without the nüvi and decided to seek guidance. I find the thing works fine but isn't nearly as intuitive to use as my Garmin. I've never done a map update as they want around $200 for the thing. Yeah, right.

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GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

dual nav systems

my built-in in-dash unit becomes situation awareness display showing me where I am, and what (curve, interaction, ... is ahead), while I have my Garmin Nuvi does all guidance work through voice of Jill. smile

cellmerch wrote: I have a

cellmerch wrote:

I have a 2014 Toyota Sienna with the built-in navigation system. Not only is the info vague, but 15% of the time totally erroneous! It is deficient enough that it will play a part in any decision to stay with Toyota in the future. Is anyone aware of any built in systems using Garmin data? I always found the hand held Garmin units to be spot on! Garmin usually will take you right to the mailbox and this Toyota system will throw you into the back yard of the next street over! LOL

I would never consider to buy a Built-In Auto GPS. It costs more, not so efficient as a portable GPS and they are frequently outdated if compared to portables

Are you driving a "most easily hacked car?"

Thanks!

johnm405 wrote:

Look at this site. Www.coastaletech.com

Go to home page and look at the Lockpick freedom in motation it works for all systems

Someone I know has one and they can do everything they want

Thanks for the pointer!

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Nuvi 2460, 680, DATUM Tymserve 2100, Trimble Thunderbolt, Ham radio, Macintosh, Linux, Windows

Not one for the Honda

k6rtm wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Look at this site. Www.coastaletech.com

Go to home page and look at the Lockpick freedom in motation it works for all systems

Someone I know has one and they can do everything they want

Thanks for the pointer!

They don't have one for the Honda.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

a package

You are right. My Toyota has the "Entune" package, which encompasses navigation, radio, fuel mileage, etc. The built in GPS is ok, and useful, but a Garmin would be so much better.

Oops, forgot the quote.

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Unless you are the lead sled dog, the view never changes. I is retard... every day is Saturday! I still own the StreetPilot c340, and the Garmin Nuvi 765t, but upgraded to the NO "recalculating", 3590 LMT.

Package

cagpsfan wrote:

There is another price to be considered when NOT getting built in navigation. In many cases this means no display for other functions a driver may find useful. It is an entirely different setup if you buy the same vehicle without gps.

You are right. My Toyota Higlander has the "Entune" package, which encompasses navigation, radio, fuel mileage, etc. The built in GPS is ok, and useful, but a Garmin would be so much better.

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Unless you are the lead sled dog, the view never changes. I is retard... every day is Saturday! I still own the StreetPilot c340, and the Garmin Nuvi 765t, but upgraded to the NO "recalculating", 3590 LMT.

Built Ins

Both the factory and the portable GPS units have their pros and cons.... I have a Lexus with a NAV system and my Garmin 2450 is nowhere as sophisticated as the factory unit...The factory unit for one thing is twice as fast at everything. No battery and cord issues either.. I use the Garmin in my second car and it works fine. I like them both.... My next new car will definitely have a factory unit... Personal preference I guess. Simple solution is if you don't like the factory units don't buy a car with one...

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

Not worth it...

Quote:

Look at this site. Www.coastaletech.com

Go to home page and look at the Lockpick freedom in motation it works for all systems

Someone I know has one and they can do everything they want

So for $300 I can fart around with the onboard system? I don't see how that is possibly worth the money to me.

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GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

Built in GPS's

thrak wrote:
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Look at this site. Www.coastaletech.com

Go to home page and look at the Lockpick freedom in motation it works for all systems

Someone I know has one and they can do everything they want

So for $300 I can fart around with the onboard system? I don't see how that is possibly worth the money to me.

It can be used for more than just using the gps. I didn't say get one just showed a site that has what it takes to get around the in motion lock. smile

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

I can't see myself

I can't see myself purchasing a factory unit until the prices come down. In most cases they seem to be bundled with other items and the cost is easily over $1000. I would rather spend a few hundred (at most) on a portable unit.

Auto Units

Unlike the portable Garmin Units, you cannot purchase "Lifetime Map Updates" for your car Nav system.

It runs $150 to do an update for a built-in car Nav System.

I only update the ones in our family cars every other year.

Built In Auto GPS...

Don't have one. Don't want one.

Nuvi1300WTGPS

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I'm not really lost.... just temporarily misplaced!

I average $25 a year for map updates on my GM factory nav

pratzert wrote:

Unlike the portable Garmin Units, you cannot purchase "Lifetime Map Updates" for your car Nav system.

It runs $150 to do an update for a built-in car Nav System.

I only update the ones in our family cars every other year.

For the factory built in GM unit in my Corvette the map update DVD is not tied to any one vehicle and actually can be used in other GM cars and fits multiple years of multiple GM vehicles. You can sell the prior year DVD on eBay to recover most of the $150 new map DVD expense. I do it every year and have averaged less than $25 per year for the last 3 updates,

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Cracked screen

In today's Auto Doctor column (no link since it is a pay site) the owner of a leased 2014 Nissan Altima reports that the screen cracked on the built-in GPS. It is a dealer part at $3,599- plus labor to install.

dobs108 smile

Built-in Auto GPS Systems

My biggest issue was really only physical with the Garmin portables. Always had to bring it inside to avoid theft and NEVER really found an ideal or particularly stable mounting place even across different vehicles. Always a great device but a nuisance to own. The battery though well charged was very short term usage, fine as long as it was plugged in. Can't imagine life without a GPS device or a cellphone for that matter. We are creatures of habit!

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nuvi' 2450

2014 jeep grand Cherokee

I finally found a GPS device that works as well as the Garmin

Jeep Wrangler Uconnect 430N

When I was looking to buy my 2013 Jeep Wrangler I specifically wanted the in dash GPS.

Jeep offered two flavors, the less expensive was a Garmin based GPS. I went with the Garmin based GPS not only because of cost, but because I am used to how Garmin's work.

You can add POI files to this unit. Map updates are costly, but honestly, with my stand alone Garmin's (2460 LMT) I have yet to see/notice any real "updates" in my extremely built up area.

I wanted the in dash for a few reasons.

No glare on the windshield at night.

Harder to steal.

If I'm in an area I know my way through and run into a detour/traffic with the push of a button I can use the GPS to get around it. Normally in an area I am somewhat familiar with the stand alone GPS would not be "at the ready".

So count my as a vote for getting one, if you're buying a new car and financing it, the cost spread out of the life of the loan is minimal.

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

In dash

2013 VW Golf R came with it. Also have Garmin stand alone unit. Bought the car for the performance, not the GPS.

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non-native nutmegger

Bad position to be in

dobs108 wrote:

In today's Auto Doctor column (no link since it is a pay site) the owner of a leased 2014 Nissan Altima reports that the screen cracked on the built-in GPS. It is a dealer part at $3,599- plus labor to install.

dobs108 smile

Yikes, he's screwed. Since it's a leased car, his choices are to pay the dealer the four grand to fix it, turn the car in and be assessed for unrepaired damage (he still pays), or accept the buyout price for a vehicle he may not want.

My takeaways:
Don't lease.
Don't get factory built-in GPS.

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JMoo On

cracked screen

dagarmin wrote:
dobs108 wrote:

In today's Auto Doctor column (no link since it is a pay site) the owner of a leased 2014 Nissan Altima reports that the screen cracked on the built-in GPS. It is a dealer part at $3,599- plus labor to install.

dobs108 smile

Yikes, he's screwed. Since it's a leased car, his choices are to pay the dealer the four grand to fix it, turn the car in and be assessed for unrepaired damage (he still pays), or accept the buyout price for a vehicle he may not want.

My takeaways:
Don't lease.
Don't get factory built-in GPS.

On a leased, 2014, wouldn't this cracked screen (if through no fault of his) be covered under a factory warranty?

Sorry

dobs108 wrote:

In today's Auto Doctor column (no link since it is a pay site) the owner of a leased 2014 Nissan Altima reports that the screen cracked on the built-in GPS. It is a dealer part at $3,599- plus labor to install.

dobs108 smile

I have a hard time believing it would cost $3600 plus installation.. Doesn't make any sense... Need proof to change my mind.

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

Built-in Car GPS units

One of the biggest draw-backs of the built-in units is the cost to update the maps.

It's $150 for an update. Sometimes they may run a special for $100, but it's still a far cry from being able to buy "Lifetime" maps from Garmin for under $100.

Plus, you can't add the POI file from here to the built-in units.

The audio from them is very nice though... but not worth the $2000 it costs for the factory GPS.

I average $25 a year for map updates on my GM factory nav

pratzert wrote:

One of the biggest draw-backs of the built-in units is the cost to update the maps.

It's $150 for an update. Sometimes they may run a special for $100, but it's still a far cry from being able to buy "Lifetime" maps from Garmin for under $100.

I average $25 a year for map updates on my GM factory nav. The factory built in GM unit in my Corvette map update DVD's are not tied to any one vehicle and actually can be used in other GM cars and fit multiple years of multiple GM vehicles. You can sell the prior year DVD on eBay to recover most of the $150 new map DVD expense. I do it every year and have averaged less than $25 per year for the last 3 updates, I find that the benefits of the built in unit far outweigh the negatives. The map info displayed in the HUD windshield display is priceless when in heavy freeway traffic. The convenience of not having to dismount and remount the unit every time you park the car is also a major upside.

The additional cost to add nav has come down and usually adds many other audio and convenience features to the cars entertainment system in addition to the nav functions.

The added cost to add nav to the new C7 corvette is now $795 so is coming down quickly and in some vehicles is now standard equipment.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Uconnect 430N

pratzert wrote:

One of the biggest draw-backs of the built-in units is the cost to update the maps.

It's $150 for an update. Sometimes they may run a special for $100, but it's still a far cry from being able to buy "Lifetime" maps from Garmin for under $100.

Plus, you can't add the POI file from here to the built-in units.

The audio from them is very nice though... but not worth the $2000 it costs for the factory GPS.

I can load POI files from here into the built in GPS in my 2013 Jeep Wrangler. The main difference is in order to load and POI's all the existing (self loaded) POIs have to be deleted.

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .
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