New Speed Cameras in NYC
Wed, 02/26/2014 - 4:19pm
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Just heard on NY news that a politician finally came up with a constructive idea concerning red light cameras. He want to have an alert sign to warn of an approaching red light camera. His thinking is that the idea is not to just collect revenue, but to actually discourage drivers from going thru red lights.
He's actually planning to introduce a bill. We'll see how much support he gets. Of course it's logical. No one is gonna drive thru a red light camera if he knows it's there.
But maybe it's really all about the money.
In NY the ticket is still $50.00. The minimum price for an expired meter is $65.00. The ratio on a daily basis of expired meter tickets to red light tickets, is probably at least 300 to 1.
Already in place on LI
In both Nassau and Suffolk Counties, when their RLC programs went into effect, the law requires the intersections to be marked - there is a warning sign approximately 500 feet before each RLC intersection.
And even with the warning signs, plenty of people still blow through red lights.
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we have to be
a first world country to argue that we have the privilege of breaking the law...a $50 fine for running a red light clearly is not to generate revenue. $490 in San Francisco, and now you're cooking with gas.
Pennsylvania too
In both Nassau and Suffolk Counties, when their RLC programs went into effect, the law requires the intersections to be marked - there is a warning sign approximately 500 feet before each RLC intersection.
And even with the warning signs, plenty of people still blow through red lights.
PA has the law on the books as well, must be notice of the upcoming RLC within the block the camera is in.
From April 2012 to March 2013 there were 167,824 citations issued and 6,111 warning notices sent.
Guess they must have missed the signs.
For the fiscal year ending March 2013 total revenue for the year, $17,763,697. Program expenses were $8,191,172, leaving a net income of $9,572,525.
As of March 2013 there was $11,427,631,12 in unpaid violations since the program first started in 2005.
More on this report is here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_78t-v7DPVOMGJ6OGs2eHd3dnc/...
If your interested you can find all the reports since the program was first initiated here: http://www.philapark.org/redlights/
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it is funny
RLC all started with putting them at some of the most dangerous intersections to help and try and eliminate serious and or fatal accidents!... now it seems like they are becoming standard issue at all new intersections and slowly converting all of them to RLC is it still about safety or is about revenue? hmmmm.....
No signs
In both Nassau and Suffolk Counties, when their RLC programs went into effect, the law requires the intersections to be marked - there is a warning sign approximately 500 feet before each RLC intersection.
And even with the warning signs, plenty of people still blow through red lights.
When the red light cameras were first put up, there were signs. But I don't see any signs now. Do you have the number of the law. I would like know it when I report the lack of signs.
Not The Law
In both Nassau and Suffolk Counties, when their RLC programs went into effect, the law requires the intersections to be marked - there is a warning sign approximately 500 feet before each RLC intersection.
And even with the warning signs, plenty of people still blow through red lights.
When the red light cameras were first put up, there were signs. But I don't see any signs now. Do you have the number of the law. I would like know it when I report the lack of signs.
Apparently IT IS NOT the law in New York State that RLC intersections be marked. Nassau County pointed this out when they failed to put up signs at intersections installed in round 2 of the RLC rollout. They did state that they would sign them but they were not required to.
That being said, all RLC intersections I travel through in Nassau and Suffolk ARE signed. Suffolk is using two different types of signage. At older RLC's that were part of the original 50 rolled out, such as New Highway and NY-109, they are using the W3-3 traffic light sign with an W16-10aP "PHOTO ENFORCED" sign. At new RLC's, such as Straight Path and NY-109, they are using the R10-18a single white "PHOTO ENFORCED" sign with a traffic light symbol.
I saw an article about the politician who is proposing that signage be required and there is opposition to it. Government officials and community leaders are afraid people will obey the law at those intersections and still break the law at others. They feel it is better that nobody knows where the RLC's are (good luck with that). I think they should be signed since SAFETY is the reason for them isn't it?
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I really don't think it matters
People are on sign overload when driving. There's signs for everything nowadays. I know where the cameras are and I still miss seeing the signs at least 50% of the time...
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wonder why
People are on sign overload when driving. There's signs for everything nowadays. I know where the cameras are and I still miss seeing the signs at least 50% of the time...
people miss the yellow light
missing may be the wrong word
People are on sign overload when driving. There's signs for everything nowadays. I know where the cameras are and I still miss seeing the signs at least 50% of the time...
people miss the yellow light
Missing the light may be the wrong word here. It's more like "beating" as in guessing if you can get into the intersection just a thousandth of a second before the yellow goes out. Spending days in the hospital and months in recovery from an accident is acceptable in lieu of waiting for the next cycle.
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I phrase it
wrong should have been dilemma zone.
definition
wrong should have been dilemma zone.
The definition of "dilemma zone" is that area a driver may be in when the light changes from green to yellow and is uncertain if it would be safe to stop or should they continue on. The situation I described is that of the driver who deliberately speeds up to make it to the intersection guessing they can get there before the yellow goes out. We've all been in the dilemma zone but then we didn't push our luck and tried to "beat the light" as a normal practice either. That's one reason why the accepted practice of timing the light's duration by the posted speed creates different lengths of time for a yellow. What's not acceptable is the driver that operates on the pattern "That light is going to be yellow for 3 1/2 seconds and I can get there before it turns red."
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