CN NA 2014.40 map details

 

Did anyone else notice that shopping centers are now outlined with "railroad markings" where the buildings are and the POIs are centered in the outlines?

On MapSource they do

wp3gi wrote:

Did anyone else notice that shopping centers are now outlined with "railroad markings" where the buildings are and the POIs are centered in the outlines?

They do indeed show up as you indicated on MapSource. On the 3597, they display normally, i.e, with the buildings shaded and tall buildings in 3D. We do no not have many tall ones in this neighborhood though. Mostly I see only shaded buildings with a slight hint of height.

Edit: Tested it on the 2595. Same behavior as the 3597 (sans the 3D feature). So far, I observed the railroad looking boarder only on MapSouce. MapSource even identifies the boarders as "railroad".

railroad tracks

I have not notice any railroad tracks,I see a lot of icon of store and shopping center,and much more ,but the only things I have not see are no railroad tracks. Does anyone know why?

I also was reading on the GPS REVIEW FORUM web site that in May 28 2014, the New Map 2015.10 should be released.

Yes RR in BaseCamp also

wp3gi wrote:

"railroad markings" where the buildings are

I was just now setting up waypoints for a trip which includes something on the Stanford campus. I used BaseCamp, which seems to be where Garmin is pushing us. And yes, it showed funny outlines for Stanford buildings, which BaseCamp's own tooltip called "railroad".

It actually disoriented me quite a bit at first. The campus also shows a lot of "trails" which may be pretty legit footpaths, or maybe not.

Stepping back through map versions installed on my PC, it appears that the "trails" in the little bit of the Stanford campus I'm looking at have been shown with only minor changes since a big change to version 2013.a, but the building outlines that look like tracks are new there in 2014.4--were not there at all in 2014.3.

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Not all there yet

I was looking in my area and only the biggest and most popular stores are highlighted with tracks right now. I'm sure as time (and map updates) goes on they will include more and more. Example - The Walmart is there while the Home Depot across the street isn't.

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The "railroad tracks" can be

The "railroad tracks" can be seen in MapSource or RoadTrip, the PNDs display the building shadow instead. The POIs are now located inside the buildings more or less where they should be instead of the POI being on the nearest road.

The 2014.40 is now doing this for shopping centers, universities, airports, etc. It seems like it would be more accurate this way.

no railtracks in my map

no railtracks in my map either.

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No tracks in either of my

No tracks in either of my Nuvis

Look at the Dolphin Mall in

Look at the Dolphin Mall in Florida: N25.78613 W80.37906

You have to look at it in the computer. If you look at it in the GPS Device you will see the shadowed outline of the building.

This is a new feature of the map.

Inside you will see all the POIs in their proper location, through the computer, not the device.

Basecamp

As you said, I can see the RR tracks in Basecamp, but not on the unit.

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Here are

Here are the differences between how Mapsource displays the Arizona Mills mall in Tempe AZ:

In 2014.30

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r783/nanaimorick/201430_...

In 2014.40

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r783/nanaimorick/201440_...

Can't say I like the extra detail, at least at this zoom level.

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2014.40 Map Details

I had not noticed, but I'll pay close attention to see what I have on mine now that I D/L 2014.40.

I have to wonder if anyone

I have to wonder if anyone ever checks this stuff before it's implemented. I can't imagine any SW engineer seeing the before and after here and then actually allowing it into the release.

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We now have a huge number of

We now have a huge number of repeated POIs for the same spot.

New (old) road!

This update adds a section of road that's been open for about seven or eight months in Morgan Hill (Northern California). Now it shows me driving on an actual road!

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wp3gi wrote:

The "railroad tracks" can be seen in MapSource or RoadTrip, the PNDs display the building shadow instead. The POIs are now located inside the buildings more or less where they should be instead of the POI being on the nearest road.

The 2014.40 is now doing this for shopping centers, universities, airports, etc. It seems like it would be more accurate this way.

wp3gi wrote:

We now have a huge number of repeated POIs for the same spot.

@wp3gi, what was the purpose of your comment about POIs being located inside the buildings? It implied to me that you were saying that built-in POIs from previous maps were located on the nearest road. Now, I have not tried to check that but I would have assumed that all built in POIs were at the actual coordinates.

Conversely, when members build POIs for the factory, they usually try to put the "location" within 30 meters of the "road" so that members who would like an "alert" when traveling will get one.

Tell me more about the "repeated POIs", please.

Faster adds

k6rtm wrote:

This update adds a section of road that's been open for about seven or eight months in Morgan Hill (Northern California). Now it shows me driving on an actual road!

It use to take a few years before we would see new roads in an update but it seems now the new roads are showing up in the new maps 1 or 2 updates after the roads are completed.

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Example of a repeated POI:

Example of a repeated POI: N25.62808 W80.38653

Home Depot in the same spot twice and that happens everywhere, just do a search

repeated poi

I Notice that too on my 1450. I also like to know why,when I drive and my GPS is on and I just drive with out enter a destination all the POI are there and clear visible,but when I enter a destination the poi icon like store and shopping center ect are covered by the road and you only see partial ,the one that a little far away you can still see them clear,but the one on the same main road of traveling they are hidden under the blue driving line. I like to know if they is a way to go aroud,I was just wonder if it is my Gps or is normal? That they show this way when traveling on a destination mode

POI display

As far as I know, there is no way to change this behavior.

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wp3gi wrote:

Example of a repeated POI: N25.62808 W80.38653

Home Depot in the same spot twice and that happens everywhere, just do a search

@wp3gi, sorry to be so dense, but I am not understanding what you mean by a "search".

If I am looking at Mapsource what should I see?

No problem... I was in a

No problem... I was in a hurry so I didn't explain my idea in detail. This is the way I do it.

Using Mapsource, go to the south part of Florida (N25.40146 W80.45232) and center it on your screen, zoom into it to 800 ft. so all the "Home Depot" stores will be north of you.

Search "Home Depot"

Home Depot 4.3 mi
Home Depot 7.2 mi
Home Depot 7.2 mi <- repeated POI
Home Depot 14.0 mi
Home Depot 16.1 mi
Home Depot 16.3 mi <- repeated POI
Home Depot 18.3 mi
Home Depot 19.5 mi
Home Depot 19.6 mi <- repeated POI

You can do this with other POIs as well, check any POI that is exactly the same distance from the other POI from a set point to see if it is a repeat POI.

2014.40

It finally shows a toll road (Mex-80D) which opened 2 years ago in Mexico south of the city of San Luis Potosi.

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Mouse is acting up and duplicates posts!

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quit feeding it

Melaqueman wrote:

Mouse is acting up and duplicates posts!

Frijoles made from jumping beans

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@wp3gi, thanks

wp3gi wrote:

No problem... I was in a hurry so I didn't explain my idea in detail. This is the way I do it.

Using Mapsource, go to the south part of Florida (N25.40146 W80.45232) and center it on your screen, zoom into it to 800 ft. so all the "Home Depot" stores will be north of you.

Search "Home Depot"

Home Depot 4.3 mi
Home Depot 7.2 mi
Home Depot 7.2 mi <- repeated POI
Home Depot 14.0 mi
Home Depot 16.1 mi
Home Depot 16.3 mi <- repeated POI
Home Depot 18.3 mi
Home Depot 19.5 mi
Home Depot 19.6 mi <- repeated POI

You can do this with other POIs as well, check any POI that is exactly the same distance from the other POI from a set point to see if it is a repeat POI.

What I was doing was "simulating" being at the Dolphin Mall and then doing a search for Home Depot.

I was finding
Home Depot (8.5) 3030 SW 8th St phone 1 3056433777
Home Depot (8.5) 3030 SW 8th St phone 1 305-643-3777
Home Depot (9.0) 2999 SW 32nd Ave phone 1 305-443-3534
Home Depot (9.1) 2999 SW 32nd Ave phone 1 3054433534
Home Depot (16) 1245 NE 163rd St phone 1 305-940-6503
Home Depot (16) 1245 NE 163rd St phone 1 3059406503

As far as the unit is concerned these are not "duplicate" because in each case on my 2595, they map to slightly different locations (in addition to the difference in phone numbers).

I fooled around with Home Depots around me and what I was finding was "Home Depot Fuel" near a "Home Depot" - looking like Duplicates but because of their titling clearly intended to be different.

We have to question how these got into the 10 million built in POIs this way but it may be that the establishments have some input.

Map update disappeared

I wonder if these problems are why the update has disappeared--at least for me it has. I've got a dezl560LMT
I fired up GarminExprs once I got my virtual windows up and running and it showed and it showed the 2014.40 map update. I didn't update at the time since I was on my mobile phone data plan. Two or three days later I attempted to do the update and it no longer shows as an update. Only a firmware update and traffic repeaters. No map at all.

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Odd

marinegundoctor wrote:

I wonder if these problems are why the update has disappeared--at least for me it has. I've got a dezl560LMT
I fired up GarminExprs once I got my virtual windows up and running and it showed and it showed the 2014.40 map update. I didn't update at the time since I was on my mobile phone data plan. Two or three days later I attempted to do the update and it no longer shows as an update. Only a firmware update and traffic repeaters. No map at all.

That's odd and I have no answer for you. But I will suggest you try GarminMapUpdater rather than Garmin Express and see if you can download and install the new map:

PC:

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe

Mac:

http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg

If Garmin thinks for some reason that you already have the latest map, look for the Reinstall Map option.

You also can use something other than Garmin Express for software updates. Garmin's WebUpdater will do the trick:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=999-99...

Confused GE

marinegundoctor wrote:

I wonder if these problems are why the update has disappeared--at least for me it has. I've got a dezl560LMT
I fired up GarminExprs once I got my virtual windows up and running and it showed and it showed the 2014.40 map update. I didn't update at the time since I was on my mobile phone data plan. Two or three days later I attempted to do the update and it no longer shows as an update. Only a firmware update and traffic repeaters. No map at all.

You may consider deleting the dezl from GE and then adding it again and the need for the update should reappear. GE does get very confused.

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Map Updater

Map Updater did the trick. Thanks!

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And now we know why we see

And now we know why we see the building outlines...

Yahoo Maps adds indoor navigation powered by Nokia Here

http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/06/yahoo-maps-adds-indoor-na...

"Google Maps has offered indoor floor plans for quite some time, and now Yahoo is doing the same. Thanks to Nokia Here, Yahoo Maps now packs building layouts, directories and contact info for places like shopping malls, train stations and airports. This means you'll be able to locate restrooms and ATMs across multiple levels of football stadiums and other places in advance. The Finnish company introduced venue mapping back in 2012, and has since amassed info on over 75,000 venues. The Here integration should come as no surprise, though, as Yahoo and Nokia have been collaborating on cartography since 2010."

maybe in 2113?

wp3gi wrote:

The Here integration should come as no surprise, though, as Yahoo and Nokia have been collaborating on cartography since 2010."

This comment caused me to make one of my periodic checks of the here.com map creator website. I keep hoping that they will enable user editing in my area. However as of today their list of North America countries for which full editing is supported stretches from Aruba to the Virgin Islands, but includes none of Canada, United States, nor Mexico.

I shall resume waiting.

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Still no USA or Canada in Map creator

archae86 wrote:

I keep hoping that they will enable user editing in my area. However as of today their list of North American countries for which full editing is supported stretches from Aruba to the Virgin Islands, but includes none of Canada, United States, nor Mexico

I checked again today, and here.com's mapcreater section still does not indicate that USA, Canada, or Mexico has been enabled for user edits.

I notice that a note on using this mapcreator function to notify map errors has been added in May 2014 to the Garmin FAQ here. Sadly the note makes no mention that the majority of people posting here will not be able to use this function in their home area until Nokia extends things. I comment here, as I don't spot a means to comment or reply to an FAQ entry.

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error reporting in areas without editing

archae86 wrote:

I notice that a note on using this mapcreator function to notify map errors has been added in May 2014 to the Garmin FAQ here. Sadly the note makes no mention that the majority of people posting here will not be able to use this function in their home area until Nokia extends things. I comment here, as I don't spot a means to comment or reply to an FAQ entry.

After I posted this comment yesterday, I got a private communication advising me that one can report map errors using the mapcreator page even for countries for which map editing is not supported.

I attempted to check this out, as I had previously tried using mapcreator for error reports near Albuquerque, and was highly unsure that my report had propagated anywhere, let alone gone into a queue for potential fixing of future map distributions.

My searching took me to this page of the here.com help:

http://here.com/help/map-creator#report-a-problem

The key content reads

here.com help wrote:

Go to Map Creator and navigate to the place where you’d like to report a problem. Then right-click and choose “Report map changes” from the menu. Choose the type of problem or change you’d like to make, giving as much detail as you can.

As this text appears specifically in answer the the FAQ-style question "How can I report a problem with the map of a country that’s not yet available for editing?", one may hope this is supposed to be supported functionality for those of us in the USA and other countries not on the list of editable countries.

It would probably be helpful if people who have submitted corrections this way who have actually seen some evidence that a correction was heard and/or acted on would post their experience.

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This

archae86 wrote:

My searching took me to this page of the here.com help:

http://here.com/help/map-creator#report-a-problem

The key content reads

here.com help wrote:

Go to Map Creator and navigate to the place where you’d like to report a problem. Then right-click and choose “Report map changes” from the menu. Choose the type of problem or change you’d like to make, giving as much detail as you can.

This sounds like the old function that was available through Navteq.com. Many of those submissions eventually made it to a map update.

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Well, Navteq is part of

Well, Navteq is part of "Here", so it's no wonder the help item sounds so familiar.

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My

My point exactly. I was just saying that if people had results using Navteq's reporting feature they would probably have the same success using the facility available for NA folks using Here.com

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I shouldn't reply when

I shouldn't reply when tired. That point was lost on me when I read it. redface

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Garmin reporting option

While the here.com site is presumably the way to report errors directly to the organization that compiles the primary map data, Garmin provides a web presence for error reporting as well at this location:

https://my.garmin.com/mapErrors/report.faces

I think I shall try this for reporting speed limit error in my neighborhood as the here.com choices provided for speed limits do not even include the correct speed limit for the piece of road in question. (35 mph).

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