Strange Handling of Custom POI's on 2460LMT

 

OK, I know this is going to sound strange, but I have had my Garmin 2460LMT for several years now, and have been loading my own POI's to it since I first bought it. I noticed today when I loaded a custom POI for an upcoming trip that when I was checking the POI load, there were a few POI's that were not showing up in the loaded POI, but if I went to the actual POI on the PC, they were all there. That got me curious, so I counted the number of POI's that actually loaded and it was 50 of the 78 points that I had built. Then I went back and checked several other of the POI's that were loaded on the 2460, some I built and some that was downloaded from this site, and guess what. All were cut off at 50 POI's. I can find nothing in the manual saying that 50 is the max per POI file, so I am at a loss as to why it only loads 50 per file, regardless of how many are actually in the file. Has anyone seen this before and is the a fix for it. I really don't want to have to subdivide all my large POI files. TIA

It's normal

when you check your Custom POI's on your GPS only the 50 closest will show up !

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Never Noticed It Before.

Thanks, I have never noticed it before, nor does it say anything about it in the manual. If that is the case, and you are trying to build a trip route that needs these points, how are you supposed to get to them to build the route? The 2460 does not allow you to build the route in mapsource or basecamp and downloaded it. It must be built in the unit. I did a work around by coping to POI's that I needed to a new POI file with just the points that I needed.

Not sure that is true

newjade wrote:

... If that is the case, and you are trying to build a trip route that needs these points, how are you supposed to get to them to build the route? The 2460 does not allow you to build the route in mapsource or basecamp and downloaded it. It must be built in the unit....

I do not have a 2460 but I think the 2460 has Trip Planner.

I also think you ought to be able to transfer a route from Mapsource.

You can only build them on the unit.

I have tried to build routes on mapsource and basecamp and then load them to the 2460. When this did not work, I contacted Garmin, and I was told that the 2460 did have trip route functionality, but the routes had to be built on the unit, as there was no support for accepting routes from a PC. I tried several times and actually did get a couple of route to load, but they were pure garbage and did not reflect the routes that were built. If I build them on the unit, they work great every time. So again I ask. if it only lets you see the closest 50 points, how are you supposed to build a route that needs access to these points? Other than how I did the work around, I don't see any other method.

Garmin Knowledge Base says

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Which devices that feature Trip Planner support routes that are created and transferred from MapSource?
Answer:
Of the devices that feature Trip Planner, only the following support routes created and transferred from MapSource:

dezl 560
nuvi 2450
nuvi 2460
nuvi 3700 series1
Upon the completion of being transferred to the device, the custom route(s) will be calculated prior to displaying in Trip Planner. If you are sending over multiple routes it may take several minutes before they will appear under Unscheduled Trips in Trip Planner.

Routes in Trip Planner cannot be sent back to MapSource. They can only be sent from MapSource to a compatible device.

For a list of automotive devices that have the ability to receive routes created and transferred from the computer, please see the following article:

https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={f2cf7300-77af-11e2-65d0-000000000000}

1A software update is required for the nuvi 3700 series to support this functionality. Step-by-step instructions on updating your device's software can be found at the following article: https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={8576ba20-e948-11dc-d6fc-000000000000}

Last modified on: 04/16/2013

and then following the link

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Which automotive Garmin devices have the ability to receive routes transferred from a computer?
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12/09/2013
The automotive devices listed below have the ability to receive routes transferred from a computer using BaseCamp or MapQuest. Please note that when routes are imported to your Garmin device, the route may change due to navigation settings within your device.

nuvi

nuvi 295W
nuvi 465
nuvi 500 series
nuvi 700 series
nuvi 705 series
nuvi 800 series
nuvi 805 series
nuvi 1400 series
nuvi 1690
nuvi 2400 series
nuvi 2405 series
nuvi 2407 series
nuvi 2408 series
nuvi 2505 series
nuvi 2507 series
nuvi 2508 series
nuvi 2707 series
nuvi 2708 series
nuvi 3400 series
nuvi 3500 series
nuvi 3700 series
nuvi 3507 series
nuvi 3508 series
nuvi 5000
zumo

zumo 220
zumo 350
zumo 390
zumo 400 series1
zumo 500 series1
zumo 6601
zumo 6651
StreetPilot

StreetPilot 2000 series
StreetPilot 7000 series
RV/Camper

RV/Camper 760
Quest

Quest
Quest 2
1Not compatible with BaseCamp

So it looks like we need to get to the bottom of why some are saying "No it won't".

Just Attempted Again - Once Again Garbage.

The Garmin knowledge database may say that the 2460 can accept route loads from a PC, but I can tell you that my 2460LMT has never from day one till my latest attempt 5 minutes ago, been able to correctly load a route created from Mapsource or Basecamp. For the 600 plus mile trip with waypoints, I would be running around all over the southern US and traveling in circles if I used the information loaded from a valid mapsource route that I created (and it looks great in Mapsource). Thanks, but no thanks. I will continue to create the routes in the unit from the points that I choose. That works the way it is supposed to work. My only problem is the 50 points that it limits me to.

routes

Was looking at this on Garmin support.

How many waypoints can I have on a route on my Camper, nuvi, LIVE, zumo, RV, or dezl device?

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10/15/2013 Many of Garmin's automotive products allow you to create a multiple-point route. This function allows you to route from point to point without having to enter a new destination after each stop.

All compatible Camper, nuvi, LIVE, zumo, RV, and dezl devices have a limit on the number of waypoints you can enter within each route.

For older devices that use the standard Routes tool, the limit is 200 waypoints.

For newer devices that use the Trip Planner tool or app, the limit is 30 waypoints.

To determine whether your device uses Routes or Trip Planner, touch the Tools, Settings, or Apps button from the main menu. The tool your devices uses should be listed here.

If the number of waypoints you want on your route exceeds that device's limitation, it is recommended that you create a separate route or trip for each leg. For example, if you are traveling across the country over several days, it is recommended that you create a separate route for each day.

In regards to the 50 pois showing that limits your route search. All custom pois are in the unit that you loaded. Doing routes with trip planner does not limit you on the search.
Once you select the custom poi or internal to find a route point .You have a search near to expand beyond the 50 pois that are near you,

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Routes

I don't know if this is what you mean, but I make a route in Google maps and then select send to device (Garmin) works for me.

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nuvi 2597LMT

My 2450

I use Base camp to make and load trips all the time. In Base camp it is called trip planner. It works great after the learning curve. The 2450 is like the 2460 bot without some stuff.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Build routes on the nuvi

I build all my routes on the nuvi. I scroll the route and select locations to be via points and make them Favorites. I select the Custom POIs I want on the route and make them Favorites also. This avoids having to go back and forth from Favorites to Custom POIs.

I use the Select Location function while scrolling the map. That way the Favorites list is arranged for the area to be viewed for easy use. (the Custom POIs list would be also) Once the route is saved it doesn't matter whether its points are in the first 50.

My nuvi 760 can use routes imported from Basecamp but I prefer not to. The roads in my area are complicated and there can be unintended consequences usually with the location of via points. I feel building the route on the nuvi makes it as bullet-proof as possible.

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Build On NUVI

I also build my trip route on the NUVI. In all cases, when I create a route for a trip I do one for going and one for returning.

Each Waypoint is numbered sequentially in order, and includes the name of the city that the waypoint refers to. e.g. 1 Ambassador Bridge, 2 Cincinnati Bypass, 3 Atlanta etc.

The waypoints were optimized using max satellite zoom on EPE and the total route tested in Basecamp.

On my 2555 I add each point sequentially in Trip Planner. This makes it easy to insert or remove a point.

On my old 350, I would have my wife insert the next via point as soon as we cleared the previous one. That way, I didn't have to take my eyes off the road.

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DIrect From Garmin Support

Here is a page that shows all of the Garmin units that allow the loading of routes from a PC to the unit.

https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={65814150-50b3-11dc-4ec8-000000000000}

nuvi 465, 500, 700, 705, 800, 805, 1400, 1690, 5000 series or a zumo 220, 400, 500, 600, or 605 series
nuvi 295W

Camper 760, nuvi 2400, 2405, 2407, 2408, 2505, 2507, 2508, 2707, 2708, 3400, 3500, 3507, 3508, 3700 series, dezl 560, dezl 760, RV 760, zumo 350, and 390 devices

The NUVI 2460 is not included in the list, therefore it is not meant to be able to receive routes built in basecamp or mapsource.

I can confirm that the nuvi 2460 that I have has never been able to use this functionality, and trips must be built on the unit itself.

2460 is included in 2400 series

The list you cited contains generic model series numbers and not specific model numbers. So your 2460 is included in the 2400 series. You should be able to transfer routes to your 2460 and they should be imported as trips.

Here is the Mapquest Route Transfer procedure. Try to send a simple route to your 2460 and see if it shows up as a trip.

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I just checked my 2460, I'm

I just checked my 2460, I'm running Software version 3.50 and Firmware 2.89 and had 80 routes all created in Mapsource v6.13.7, yes the older version because it runs faster on my old slow computer than the newer versions and transferred all of them to the 2460 using Mapsource.

When you create a route in Mapsource and send it to the 2460 you can immediately see the transfer using "My Computer" on your PC. The file will be in your GPS's drive letter:\Garmin\Temp.gpx file. After you disconnect from your PC and turn on your 2460 then the file is copied from the Temp.gpx location to the drive:\Garmin\.System\Trips folder and saved as a 9 digit.trip file, ex. "756235802.trip". The number of .trip files is the total number of routes you saved in the GPS.

Creating a route in Mapsource and having it route you your preferred way on your GPS is an entirely different problematic issue. First, no route where you use via points or insert waypoints/pois to force the route a specific course of travel works well when reversed (more turns, bigger the problem), best just to create a new route for the return trip if your wanting to travel along a specific course. When you stop and think about it it makes good sense why reversed routes don't work well. When you create a via point, waypoint, poi, etc. in Mapsource to travel through in your route the GPS wants to to take you very close to that point and will do whatever it needs to to get you to travel through that point/location. This is why you think your GPS is routing you in circles, when in fact you told it to take you to a specific point and it is just doing what you asked of it. This occurs when we create a poi/waypoint in Mapsource that might be on a 4 lane hwy. but the created point may actually be on the North bound lane when your wanting to travel South, so the GPS will tell you to turn around (exit), go through that point, and then have you turn around again, now going in your correct direction of travel. When creating via points, waypoints/pois that are going to be used to force the GPS to use a specific route of travel you have to make sure you have them located on the correct side of 4-lane hwys. and it is also best not to locate them at interchanges or at intersections of 2-lane hwys. but to locate them on the far side of the intersection you will be traveling through.

eaparks - Thanks for all the good info

Absolutely right! Another route for the return trip is always needed, and the location of VIA points is critical whether you use Mapsource, Basecamp, or build the route on the nuvi.

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