Folders not working

 

OK so ive setup my files and folders as follows

POI_Load (where I point poi loader to)
then a folder called friends
in which i have a gpx file already setup with my friends address'
I used poi loader and put it to my SD card, express, says POI loaded

But when i go to extras, its not categorized they are all my friends address just listed

what did I do wrong ?

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Nevermind I resolved. Didnt see it documented anywhere but apparently you have to have at least one file in the main folder for it to seperate.

One more folder

I have a folder named POI
Then I have folders under it with my files
POI (folder)
Business (folder)with files in it
People (folder)with files in it
etc...

I then take the loader to POI folder and run it. I then have a master file called POI and all my folders are under that.

Try:
POI_Load (folder)as the master folder with your files in folders inside the POI_Load folder.

POI_Load (Folder)
Friends (files in this folder)

Have POI Loader start with POI_Load as you master folder.
Hope this works

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Also, you will need to have more than one subfolder in order for the categories to show up on the GPS unit.

If you just have

POI folder
>>> Friends folder

then you will not see at "Category" because there is nothing to separate.

That is

That is good to know.

I take the folders 1 step furthur

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Also, you will need to have more than one subfolder in order for the categories to show up on the GPS unit.

If you just have

POI folder
>>> Friends folder

then you will not see at "Category" because there is nothing to separate.

My folder structure looks like this:
Pois Alerts
>>>>Alerts
>>>>>>My Home.csv
>>>>>>My Home.wav
>>>>>>RLC.csv
>>>>>>RLC.wav
Pois Motels
>>>>Motels
>>>>>>Super eight.csv
>>>>>>Wyndam.csv
Pois Food
>>>>Food
>>>>>>Brueggers.csv
>>>>>>Brueggers.bmp
>>>>>>Taco Bell.csv
>>>>>>Taco Bell.bmp

The reason being that if there are changes to Motels all I have to do is load motels. I can load (update) the RLC file bu just loading "Poi Alerts". This gives me the categories I need.

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Upload only one category

pwohlrab wrote:
Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Also, you will need to have more than one subfolder in order for the categories to show up on the GPS unit.

If you just have

POI folder
>>> Friends folder

then you will not see at "Category" because there is nothing to separate.

My folder structure looks like this:
Pois Alerts
>>>>Alerts
>>>>>>My Home.csv
>>>>>>My Home.wav
>>>>>>RLC.csv
>>>>>>RLC.wav
Pois Motels
>>>>Motels
>>>>>>Super eight.csv
>>>>>>Wyndam.csv
Pois Food
>>>>Food
>>>>>>Brueggers.csv
>>>>>>Brueggers.bmp
>>>>>>Taco Bell.csv
>>>>>>Taco Bell.bmp

The reason being that if there are changes to Motels all I have to do is load motels. I can load (update) the RLC file bu just loading "Poi Alerts". This gives me the categories I need.

I have always uploaded all of my POIs for fear if I just uploaded one it would over write the others.
So I need to make a master folder for each category and not have to upload all my files each time and as long as it is a different name it will not over write my other files?
Am I reading this correct...

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@mgarledge

That is correct.
If you change a file within say "food", then point poi loader towards "Pois food" and you are good. Just make sure that you watch your naming convention. If the name is the same it will tell you it exists and want to overwrite that folder/file.

I have never had a problem.

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Thanks

pwohlrab wrote:

That is correct.
If you change a file within say "food", then point poi loader towards "Pois food" and you are good. Just make sure that you watch your naming convention. If the name is the same it will tell you it exists and want to overwrite that folder/file.

I have never had a problem.

Fix-in to try it...
Thanks

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test this at the same time

mgarledge wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

That is correct.
If you change a file within say "food", then point poi loader towards "Pois food" and you are good. Just make sure that you watch your naming convention. If the name is the same it will tell you it exists and want to overwrite that folder/file.

I have never had a problem.

Fix-in to try it...
Thanks

Here's another way of looking at the one versus many different folders.

Run a test with no changes to your current set up measuring the amount of time it takes from when you start Poi Loader till it reports it has successfully loaded your files to the device.

Now, create your new structure with master folders for each category and do the same measurement. Each time you run POI Loader to update one category should be about the same as updating them all. If you need to update two or three categories, you will have spent more time waiting on POI Loader than it took to update them all. I now fail to see any advantage over having multiple master folders.

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Excellent point.

Excellent point Box Car. I knew there was a reason I had gone back to a single .gpi file instead of multiple folders/files. I just hadn't thought it through and verbalized it as well as you just did.

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Depends

Box Car wrote:

I now fail to see any advantage over having multiple master folders.

In one folder I have a few TourGuide files with unique wav files and unique proximity distance for each location. These take a while to load. Plus the fact that the files will never be altered.
RLC & Speed are in a folder that I update every week.
Another folder is for everything else. I sometimes wait a month before updating that one

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1490LMT 1450LMT 295w

There are always

spokybob wrote:
Box Car wrote:

I now fail to see any advantage over having multiple master folders.

In one folder I have a few TourGuide files with unique wav files and unique proximity distance for each location. These take a while to load. Plus the fact that the files will never be altered.
RLC & Speed are in a folder that I update every week.
Another folder is for everything else. I sometimes wait a month before updating that one

There are always exceptions that go against the basic premise. As you state though, once the file is done, you don't change it, so, for the purposes of this discussion those would make sense being in a separate GPI file but the exception doesn't negate the original premise if you have to update two or more categories with separate runs of POI Loader is it more efficient than having one file with one load?

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it's one reason

Box Car wrote:
spokybob wrote:
Box Car wrote:

I now fail to see any advantage over having multiple master folders.

In one folder I have a few TourGuide files with unique wav files and unique proximity distance for each location. These take a while to load. Plus the fact that the files will never be altered.
RLC & Speed are in a folder that I update every week.
Another folder is for everything else. I sometimes wait a month before updating that one

There are always exceptions that go against the basic premise. As you state though, once the file is done, you don't change it, so, for the purposes of this discussion those would make sense being in a separate GPI file but the exception doesn't negate the original premise if you have to update two or more categories with separate runs of POI Loader is it more efficient than having one file with one load?

Multiple runs of POI Loader was the main reason I quit doing separate GPI files back in the days of POILoader 2.3. It took 4 or 5 minutes to do a separate run of POI Loader back then with only 80K+ of locations and updating multiple categories just didn't seem to be that efficient.

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Another thought

Sometimes alerts are loaded using the manual mode. I would not want the prompt in all the files not using alerts.

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I haven't used manual

spokybob wrote:

Sometimes alerts are loaded using the manual mode. I would not want the prompt in all the files not using alerts.

I haven't used manual mode in a couple of years. Most of the files I use are converted to GPX which lets me set a proximity and/or speed for either the POI file or locations in each file.

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However

Manual loading is covered in an FAQ, so it is still relevant.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1278

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Thanks

Box Car wrote:
mgarledge wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

That is correct.
If you change a file within say "food", then point poi loader towards "Pois food" and you are good. Just make sure that you watch your naming convention. If the name is the same it will tell you it exists and want to overwrite that folder/file.

I have never had a problem.

Fix-in to try it...
Thanks

Here's another way of looking at the one versus many different folders.

Run a test with no changes to your current set up measuring the amount of time it takes from when you start Poi Loader till it reports it has successfully loaded your files to the device.

Now, create your new structure with master folders for each category and do the same measurement. Each time you run POI Loader to update one category should be about the same as updating them all. If you need to update two or three categories, you will have spent more time waiting on POI Loader than it took to update them all. I now fail to see any advantage over having multiple master folders.

I have no reason to time them because it was so much trouble to load each one. They look no different in the GPS. It is not worth the extra effort to me. After I loaded all of them, one at a time, I did work on some and had to write down what one I had work on to be sure if I loaded the new one.....
Will go back to the way I was doing it. I do not use the manual alert so the old way was better for me. Less time, less effort, and most of all less brain work. smile

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^Thanks. Good info. to know.

^Thanks. Good info. to know.

Results of Testing

In MyPOIExpress, I have 4 folders
#food_lodging
%Stores
@Auto Stuff
-Other

In these 4 folders are my individual POI files, like
Arbys thru Wendys
BatteriesPlus thru Walmart
Chevy thru Subaru
AAA thru speed-cameras
for a total of 107,913 points.

If I use POI Loader to load them to the 2455 directly, I takes 20 seconds from the "Next" to the Congratulations. If I load them to my computer, it took 15 seconds from the "Next" to the Congratulations and 5 seconds to copy the .gpi file to the 2455. Based on these timings, I cannot see any reason why one would not reload all of their POI files every time.

I have a Win 7 machine with an AMD 3.20 GHz chip - so it is fast. BUT, I can't believe that the POI Loader time on almost any computer would be so long as to be a problem with loading one file or batches of files or in reloading those batches of files.

I do the loads to my computer because that seems to me to make more sense when I am working in manual mode of POI Loader. Rather than do a number of different files in one run of manual mode, I run each separately so that can pay more attention the proximity distances - and then after testing, if I decide that some other distance would be preferable, I can rerun that one file only.

It takes minimal time to transfer the .gpi files from the computer to the Nuvi.

By the way, what I see on the Nuvi under Categories > down arrows > Custom POIs is
All Categories
#food_lodging
%stores
-Other
@Auto Stuff

so the Nuvi and the computer do not sort the folder categories the same.

PS - remember that on a lot of Nuvis, a .gpi file anywhere on the Nuvi gets read as a Custom POI. As best I can tell the order under Custom POIs is based on the order in which the files are retrieved from the Nuvi folders in alphabetic order - then sorted alphabetically if there are multiple files in a Nuvi folder.

At the same time, I discovered that a .gpx file in the Tutorials folder would be read as a Favorite/Saved Places on the 2455