New map editing tool for Navteq

 

For those of you who make updates to Navteq's map or once did in the past, a new website has been launched for this purpose that will be of interest to you. Since Nokia has taken over Navteq, a new site, here.com, is now the place to submit map changes. Map Reporter is no longer in use. Once on here.com, click on "Map Creator", create an account, and start editing. The Map Creator tool on Here is actually much easier to use than Map Reporter was, and you have the ability to edit more information, like number of lanes, whether the street is well lit, ect. You will be able to immediately see the changes you make in the community layer of Map Creator and eventually there will be voting and moderation performed by other registered users as one form of validation checking. This means that our changes we make should be implemented a bit faster than we've seen in the past. It's actually very similar in style and function to Google's Map Maker tool that has recently launched with the new Google Maps. As of this moment, the US maps on Map Creator are still not available to edit, but a Nokia representative said we should be able to do so within a week. Hope you guys can help improve the maps the our Garmin's use!

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

Cool

Thanks for the tip... I wonder if that kind of functionality will be/is included in the Here app for smartphones... I tried it when it first came out for iPhone... found it lacking and deleted it. May look into it again and see if anything has changed.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

Maps

rame1012 wrote:

For those of you who make updates to Navteq's map or once did in the past, a new website has been launched for this purpose that will be of interest to you. Since Nokia has taken over Navteq, a new site, here.com, is now the place to submit map changes. Map Reporter is no longer in use. Once on here.com, click on "Map Creator", create an account, and start editing. The Map Creator tool on Here is actually much easier to use than Map Reporter was, and you have the ability to edit more information, like number of lanes, whether the street is well lit, ect. You will be able to immediately see the changes you make in the community layer of Map Creator and eventually there will be voting and moderation performed by other registered users as one form of validation checking. This means that our changes we make should be implemented a bit faster than we've seen in the past. It's actually very similar in style and function to Google's Map Maker tool that has recently launched with the new Google Maps. As of this moment, the US maps on Map Creator are still not available to edit, but a Nokia representative said we should be able to do so within a week. Hope you guys can help improve the maps the our Garmin's use!

Thanks for the info.Updated on the FAQ.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

Here iPhone app

kch50428 wrote:

Thanks for the tip... I wonder if that kind of functionality will be/is included in the Here app for smartphones... I tried it when it first came out for iPhone... found it lacking and deleted it. May look into it again and see if anything has changed.

Yeah, the Here app is sort of useless at this point in time. And I'm not sure when you'll be able to edit the maps using the iphone app. Google hasn't even made their Map Maker feature available in their iOS app, so I highly doubt Nokia will do the same for Here.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

This could be nice

Do you think we'll be able to see/make updates to speed limits on certain parts of roads also using this site? There are a few smaller roads by my house that don't show speed limits on the Garmin, and I think when it uses them in calculations of directions, it doesn't get the estimated time correct because of this.

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nuvi 3597

Yes!

Now we'll get a chance to fix those little pesky problems on there.

Currently

Currently pretty useless as a map editing tool for North America, but hopefully that will be fixed soon.

On the other hand, as a trip/direction creation tool IMHO it's at least as good, and probably better, than Mapquest or Google. This is especially true if your looking for directions to addresses in 'private' communities. We live in a gated community in Canada and one in Arizona and Google's street view is only available up to the gate. With Here.com I was able to get directions to and view our Arizona house.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

Manual Speed corrections

FunkyBoss wrote:

Do you think we'll be able to see/make updates to speed limits on certain parts of roads also using this site? There are a few smaller roads by my house that don't show speed limits on the Garmin, and I think when it uses them in calculations of directions, it doesn't get the estimated time correct because of this.

I didn't see this with a quick scan in your owners manual, so maybe it's been removed. It's worth looking for in any event.

At least for some recent nuvi models, owners can correct speed limits: either tap the incorrect speed limit sign or tap the + sign if there is no speed limit for your road. Are you then taken to a nuvi page and given the ability to change and save the correct speed limit? I can do this on my 2460.

If so, besides adding better data to your nuvi, it may be one of the items Garmin gets from your nuvi when connected to the internet assuming you gave Garmin permission to collect data from your nuvi or computer.

Short

CraigW wrote:

Are you then taken to a nuvi page and given the ability to change and save the correct speed limit? I can do this on my 2460.

Short lived feature. I could change the speed limit on my 2460 (since given to my son) but the new 2013 model 3597 no longer has this ability.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

Nope--speed limits are separate from the data used for estimates

FunkyBoss wrote:

There are a few smaller roads by my house that don't show speed limits on the Garmin, and I think when it uses them in calculations of directions, it doesn't get the estimated time correct because of this.

Erm, no, the categorization of segments of road as to average rate of advance is separate from the speed limit data base.

Hint: turn on the simulation mode and watch the speeds you see. Not only are you not travelling at the speed limit, but there is not a simple one-to-one relationship either.

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personal GPS user since 1992

You're actually right about them being separate databases...

archae86 wrote:
FunkyBoss wrote:

There are a few smaller roads by my house that don't show speed limits on the Garmin, and I think when it uses them in calculations of directions, it doesn't get the estimated time correct because of this.

Erm, no, the categorization of segments of road as to average rate of advance is separate from the speed limit data base.

Hint: turn on the simulation mode and watch the speeds you see. Not only are you not travelling at the speed limit, but there is not a simple one-to-one relationship either.

Since I could not edit any roads in North America on Map Creator, I went somewhere else just to see what it would be like to try and edit attributes about a road segment on Map Creator. Instead of asking you to report that speed limit for that segment of road, Map Creator simply asks what is the average speed that people normally travel on that road. I like that we're given this option in Map Creator, because this information is a lot more useful. Nokia(Navteq) will most likely still provide real speed limit data for Garmin PND'S I'm sure, but we just won't be able to actually change this anymore. So this would confirm that you are in fact correct, archae36, and this is news to me. I always thought that Garmin's routing algorithm used reported speed limits to select the fastest route, not average speed traveled.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

North America is now available to edit

Everyone can now edit US and Canada maps on here.com's Map Creator tool as of this morning. You must create an account first though.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

Can't Yet

I've already registered in the past and logged in, but it still doesn't give me an option. On the list of maps available to edit, the U.S. and Canada are still not on the list. I'll try again later today.

Interesting note about averages

archae86 wrote:
FunkyBoss wrote:

There are a few smaller roads by my house that don't show speed limits on the Garmin, and I think when it uses them in calculations of directions, it doesn't get the estimated time correct because of this.

Erm, no, the categorization of segments of road as to average rate of advance is separate from the speed limit data base.

Hint: turn on the simulation mode and watch the speeds you see. Not only are you not travelling at the speed limit, but there is not a simple one-to-one relationship either.

Hmmmm, you seem to be onto something. One of the smaller roads by my house that doesn't have a speed limit in the Garmin would always go like 25MPH in simulation mode when I first got it. Now, it goes around 45MPH, even though the speed limit is actually 40MPH. It's as if it is keeping track of the average speed that we travel on that road and storing it for usage later. Is this how it works?

And I also can't edit any maps when logged into the site yet.

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nuvi 3597

If you care to search back a

If you care to search back a while here, it's been known since the 760 came out, (others are included), that the units "learn" your habits and adapt routing to fit your driving habits. In other words, it learns the average speeds you drive different roads and adjusts the routing accordingly. Including arrival times, etc.

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Frank DriveSmart55 37.322760, -79.511267

Map Creator

I guess the only reason I have the ability to edit the US maps ahead of everyone else is I was part of Navteq's Community Reporter program (which is now called Nokia's Community Collaborator program). Didn't know this was the case when I posted yesterday. Sorry for the false alarm. I'm sure everyone will be able to start editing the US maps within the next month or so.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

If you have a major change in your area...

let me know the details and I can report it for you in my spare time for the time being.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

thanks

Thanks rame1012, for this offer and much previous useful information. I'll keep watching this thread, as I'd really like to be able to try submitting reports on the new site. I submitted well over a dozen on mapreporter, and never had any of mine progress past their waiting for review queue. I hope the new site will work better for all.

Meanwhile--a question for those who can use the site: Could you elaborate a little on just what parts of the data are exposed to update suggestions?
POI details
existence of a POI
speed limit?
permitted turns at intersections?
actual path of a road?
geographical features (river, political boundary...)
and so on

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personal GPS user since 1992

What you can edit on Map Creator

archae86 wrote:

Thanks rame1012, for this offer and much previous useful information. I'll keep watching this thread, as I'd really like to be able to try submitting reports on the site. I submitted well over a dozen on mapreporter, and never had any of mine progress past their waiting for review queue. I hope the site will work better for all.

Meanwhile--a question for those who can use the site: Could you elaborate a little on just what parts of the data are exposed to update suggestions?
POI details
existence of a POI
speed limit?
permitted turns at intersections?
actual path of a road?
geographical features (river, political boundary...)
and so on

As far as editing current road segments goes, here is a screenshot of what the interface looks like for : http://imgur.com/RjbM2av

-Notice how it asks you for avg speed traveled as opposed to posted speed limit.

For adding new roads, you first classify the road as a Motorway (interstate), Main road, Local Access Road, Residential Road, or a trail. When you add a road, you get to edit all of it's attributes and can draw the road exactly to your liking. You can also reshape current roads (refer to this screen shot: http://imgur.com/tDOiBEW)

Here's the options you have for editing and adding POI's: http://imgur.com/ap1QfNA

As far as reporting cartography and landscape changes, there are no specific options available for , but you can right click anywhere on the map at any time and you always have the following options: http://imgur.com/KTxb90c

I'm not sure which one you would choose to report cartography changes, but you are given the option to write out and explanation of what has changed as shown here: http://imgur.com/BXIJamM

Yesterday, I made well over a hundred changes in my area in about maybe 2 hours. This tool is far better than map reporter in my opinion, and the way Nokia has it set up, I think changes made in Map Creator will be added to the official map more quickly and efficiently, but only time will tell.

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Garmin Nuvi 3490lmt, 765t with Lifetime maps and Clear Channel traffic

Thanks

Thank you for the clarification. I will be thrilled when I can edit the maps in my area! I hope they will allow all users access soon. I guess they know as soon as they allow editing in the U.S., Canada, and Europe, the floodgates will open and they will have MANY new submissions.

Thanks for info

Thanks for info

I wonder when

I wonder when it will allow editing of NA on these maps? I've been really looking forward to this and it's in the middle of August and I still can't update anything. Has anyone heard anything? I can't find any sort of ETA for this functionality.

On a side note, if you go into the map editor in NA, you will see road updates that are not on the "official map" as of yet. I wonder if this is a preview for 2014.20?

It's

It's possible that updates you see on the Navteq website maps will be in 2014.20 but remember that Garmin has had those maps on "their" server for at least 2 weeks so it really depends on when the map change was made on the Navteq site.

If a change is showing on the Navteq website then I think you can be assured that if it isn't reflected in 2014.20 it will be in 2014.30.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Drive 52, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

what happens if you try?

I've been checking here.com every now and again, hoping to see that the lack of editing for my location (Albuquerque, NM--but presumably all of the USA) has been lifted.

Today, for some reason, I zoomed in tight, and noticed that if I right-clicked on a bit of road, I got a popup, which after a few more selections appeared to allow me to report a correction to road name, road type, speed limit, structure type, one-wayness.

However the resolution of the speed limits on offer seemed "continental". (130, 100, 90, 70, 50, 30, 11 km/h)

Has anyone tried actually submitting a change from this part of the interface in the current "map editing isn't available here yet" condition?

In places where they do allow editing, do they have a broader selection of speed limits--or allow you to type in actual numbers?

on a separate point, I was thrilled to see that right-clicking on my street appears to generate quite accurate addresses. This would be a big change from the Navteq maps as issued until very recently, as my little loop is oddly arranged, with addresses from about 988 to 999 going up one side, then abruptly changing to 9100 adjacent to 999, and continuing on to 9116 or so. They actually get the breakpoint almost right, and start up from 9100 correctly as well, but they end the street with 9199--so most the addresses get clustered in an awkward clump up to a third of a mile from their correct location. So if this one case represents a more general trend of trying harder to get residential addresses accurately by fine-tuning the starting and stopping numbers for segments it would be welcome news.

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personal GPS user since 1992

I tried

I tried to do a submission that I had previously made through Navteq's Map Reporter over a year ago (still "in process" for the record). It seemed like everything went through, but none of this shows on any history or record so I think it may just look like we are making a change, but nothing's actually happening.