Apple Maps

 

I'm sure this has been beaten into the ground by now but I thought I'd share a funny story about my iPhone Maps using the new IOS.

I'm very happy with my Garmin so I've always used it instead of the iPhone for navigation. But one day I decided to run both and see what happened. Having heard how bad the new Apple maps are, I wanted to check it out for myself.

I was headed to a shop across town and there are a couple of different ways to get there via different freeways here. I don't go the same way every time. It just depends on my mood as to which way I go.

A couple of miles from my house, both Garmin and the iPhone directed me to take the next ramp and take the freeway headed north.

To this point, both units were keeping pace with each other and I was pretty impressed with the iPhone navigation.

But then it all unraveled.

I decided to keep heading west and take the other route.

Garmin quickly said that infamous phrase, "Recalculating". The iPhone kept telling me to turn north.

A few second later, Garmin was providing the revised instructions. The iPhone was starting to tell me to take the next off ramp and go back the other way so that I could take the North freeway.

Okay, I thought. A difference of opinion here but the iPhone will get the message that I'm not turning around and will surely "recalculate" in a minute or two.

She never did.

For the next ten miles, the iPhone insisted I take each offramp and turn around to go back to the northbound freeway.

In fact, when I got to the shop and was sitting in their parking lot, Garmin was happy and displaying the checkered flag. The iPhone was still telling me over and over to turn around and go back to the northbound freeway!

Sheez. Insistent little thing!

Eventually Apple will fix this and everything else in their maps, but that was pretty entertaining that day.

This is similar to the way some PNDs worked...

Sixeye wrote:

For the next ten miles, the iPhone insisted I take each offramp and turn around to go back to the northbound freeway.

This seems similar to the way some PNDs worked... about 8 years ago! Back then, a lot of them took forever to re-calculate a new route, and would keep trying to get you back to the original route far longer than they should have.

That's why having a "recalculating" annunciation (although a chime might be better) is actually not such a bad thing (because it lets you know that you can stop ignoring the directions that are trying to get you back to the original route), even though most Garmin owners seemed to dislike it intensely. Most newer PNDs and nav apps (except Apple, obviously) recalculate so quickly that it isn't really necessary anymore though.

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For the next ten miles, the iPhone insisted I take each offramp and turn around to go back to the northbound freeway.

I had the exact opposite experience with a side by side trip... went a different way than both suggested - the iPhone rerouted to the way I was heading, and the Nuvi insisted I turn around at every exit for 30 miles...

Eventually Garmin will fix this, and everything else in their maps... smile

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

So far so good with my Apple

So far so good with my Apple maps. I've had apple maps and my 3490 side by side and I tend to like the Apple maps more. No wrong routes yet.

I love that I can tell SIRI where i want to go and away I go.

POIs

Garmin POIs are often quite out-of-date compared to Apple although Garmin's suggested routes are better so far...

NO NO NO

No flaco don't say it...

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Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

Which iPhone and OS?

Which model of iPhone are you using and which operating system? The new iPhone and/or IOS6?

I'm holding off on getting an iPhone until Apple gets the bugs fixed. In the meantime, my Nuvi 255W will be my gps of choice.

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OK.....so where the heck am I?

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I'm using iOS6 on an iPhone4S and iPad3 - the stock iOS6 Maps app is no worse than my Nuvi765t.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

what is it?

Some people here are reporting no problems with iOS6 in fact they love it, in the mean time Apple is apologizing to them for the crappy map, I'm confused. confused

http://www.apple.com/letter-from-tim-cook-on-maps/

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Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

Don't Wait

pkdmslf wrote:

Which model of iPhone are you using and which operating system? The new iPhone and/or IOS6?

I'm holding off on getting an iPhone until Apple gets the bugs fixed. In the meantime, my Nuvi 255W will be my gps of choice.

I'm using iOS6 on an iPhone 4S and iPad2. Don't wait, Apple Maps works as well as any other GPS. I have been using Apple maps and have not had issues. I like it better than Google Maps.

Also, you can use a Garmin Nav App that has all the maps you will ever need and it "feels" like a Garmin GPS. I've been using Garmin North America on the iPhone 4S and it's pretty good.

Don't wait, the app will get updated, no reason to hold off getting the iPhone.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone XR w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

Old News

flaco wrote:

Some people here are reporting no problems with iOS6 in fact they love it, in the mean time Apple is apologizing to them for the crappy map, I'm confused. confused

http://www.apple.com/letter-from-tim-cook-on-maps/

A lot has been fixed, fixes are ongoing. Much was and still is being made of the issues by people who never use them, and Apple-hating bloggers trolling for hits.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

old news?

If as you say it is ”old news” why doesn’t Tim Cook Apple’s CEO publish another letter saying, everything now is hunky-dory?

I love when people call me names!

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Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

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flaco wrote:

If as you say it is ”old news” why doesn’t Tim Cook Apple’s CEO publish another letter saying, everything now is hunky-dory?

Perhaps they'll talk about Maps at Apple's event tomorrow... The stock Maps app has always been hunky-dory for me... every bit as hunky-dory as my Nuvi, and the Navigon app as well. No one of them is worse, or better than the rest in my use of all of them.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

then why

kch50428 wrote:
flaco wrote:

If as you say it is ”old news” why doesn’t Tim Cook Apple’s CEO publish another letter saying, everything now is hunky-dory?

Perhaps they'll talk about Maps at Apple's event tomorrow... The stock Maps app has always been hunky-dory for me... every bit as hunky-dory as my Nuvi, and the Navigon app as well. No one of them is worse, or better than the rest in my use of all of them.

Then why did you have to play fanboi and blast Garmin with this?

kch50428 wrote:

Eventually Garmin will fix this, and everything else in their maps.

? It appears as if you are not willing to let someone relay a report against an Apple product without quickly denouncing the writer as being an {insert product} fan boy while quickly denouncing anything else. The news is what it is. We may not like what is reported, but we shouldn't tear down someone else's house without making certain ours is in order. There are a great many people here on this board that use and like Apple products and they aren't always tearing another's down because they didn't like the published report about an Apple product.

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Eventually Garmin will fix their issues

just like Apple will/is... it was sarcasm, playing off the end of the original post, which I quoted another part of to comment directly to. Sorry if that was above your ability to grasp.

And all I did was relate an experience I had... it happens to be opposite of the original poster's experience. And you are calling me out as a bad guy for having a different experience, and sharing it. SMH.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

You Can't Win

flaco wrote:

Some people here are reporting no problems with iOS6 in fact they love it, in the mean time Apple is apologizing to them for the crappy map, I'm confused. confused

http://www.apple.com/letter-from-tim-cook-on-maps/

You would have complained if Apple didn't say anything about the imperfections with the new Apple maps.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone XR w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

not complaining

Just confused why some here say there is no problem and the CEO of the company say there is a problem, even suggesting using the competition products.

Since I don't have a product with iOS6 don't know who to believe, my iPhone and iPod will not be able to run iOS6 but the Mini iPad I'm considering buying will have that OS

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Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

Mountains and Molehills

kch50428 wrote:

A lot has been fixed, fixes are ongoing. Much was and still is being made of the issues by people who never use them, and Apple-hating bloggers trolling for hits.

As an Android guy this will sound odd coming from me, but I seriously do not think this is as big a deal as the pundits want you to think. I found a site that displays many so-called incidents of the Apple Maps app "screwing up". Out of the nearly 400 pictures on that site, few of them were truly the maps. The rest were satellite photos.

The inconvenient truth regarding the satellite photos is this: even Google has issues with melting streets. I could go onto Google Maps right now, access the satellite imagery, and find a highway right near my house that looks like it melted.

Not much you can do about that except to use a different picture, which may also be melted.

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"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams

No Reason to be Confused

flaco wrote:

Just confused why some here say there is no problem and the CEO of the company say there is a problem, even suggesting using the competition products.

Since I don't have a product with iOS6 don't know who to believe, my iPhone and iPod will not be able to run iOS6 but the Mini iPad I'm considering buying will have that OS

I guess it shows there is more that is right. Nobody says much about what is right. It is quite possible that there are indeed some people that are not experiencing any issues.

And the suggestion to use the competition's products is interesting, since Apple will be selling the competing products from the Apple App Store.

Also, it does appear that the "issues" are mostly to do with the satellite imagery. I'm not concerned with that at all since I rarely use it. The maps and mapping appears to work just fine.

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GPSMAP64s, iPhone XR w/Garmin North America, Yaesu VX-8R w/GPS.

Agree with you

cool cool I've been using the ios6 and maps and so far they aren't too bad. There are things that I don't use but all in all pretty good.

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Which iPhone and OS?

pkdmslf wrote:

Which model of iPhone are you using and which operating system? The new iPhone and/or IOS6?

I'm holding off on getting an iPhone until Apple gets the bugs fixed. In the meantime, my Nuvi 255W will be my gps of choice.

I'm using IOS6 on an iPhone 4S. I'm an Apple lover, not a hater. I was only sharing my experience with Apple maps. I'm sure Apple will fix it before long, but it was pretty hilarious to be sitting in the parking lot of the destination and having the iPhone telling me to turn around and go back to the other freeway.

To those not having problems, GREAT! Try going a slightly different route than instructed by your iPhone and let us know whether you have the same experience I had or Apple Maps "recalculates" like Garmin does.

correction

flaco wrote:

Since I don't have a product with iOS6 don't know who to believe, my iPhone and iPod will not be able to run iOS6 but the Mini iPad I'm considering buying will have that OS

Correcting my own statement the WiFi Mini iPad I was considering buying (no more) doesn't have a built in GPS so it will not suffer navigation issues.

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Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

GPS via Bluetooth

...is entirely possible for the iPad mini wifi models. Garmin and BadElf are two makers of such devices.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*