Nuvi 2595 - Routes do not show the next leg!

 

I lead a motorcycle group on a ride last weekend and loaded a route that one of the guys put together. When I was leading a smaller group on the ride I came to the first waypoint at an intersection and the magenta route just stopped right there at the little flag. I didn't know which way to turn! So I looked at my map and guessed from the big picture that I needed to turn right and as soon as moved in that direction it plotted the magenta route to the next waypoint.

On a subsequent leg I guessed wrong and it told me to do a u-turn. How frustrating is that for a bunch of motorcycles!

Verification. Just yesterday I wanted to go from the north side of my city to the south side (Houston), but I didn't want to go thru the middle of the city, I wanted to take the beltway around the east side. So I added a waypoint to drive the routing to the east beltway and when I was approaching that waypoint the 2595 did not show the route beyond that waypoint until I passed it. Terrible!

That really seems like a flaw in the routing engine. Or the display engine. Or something. That basically makes routes unusable! I may sell the damn thing and get something else if I can't figure out a way to make it display the next leg of the route while I am riding.

Easy fix

Choose the end of the route, instead of the next waypoint. Voila.

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Unlike the Zumo or other older Nuvis, the 2595 does not support routes. Instead, you have Trips, which work exactly as you have described. However, by touching the top of the screen, you can scroll down through the turn by turn directions to find out the turn direction for the turn right after the next via point.

Juggernaut wrote:

Choose the end of the route, instead of the next waypoint. Voila.

This will bypass all waypoints and take you directly to the end of the route from your current location.

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It still goes waypoint to waypoint.

It is a continuous route, and uninterrupted. Hit the waypoint, and it guides you to the next one seamlessly just like the old routes would do.

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I will test it out on

I will test it out on another bike trip tomorrow (Tuesday). I hope that is the case, but how completely counter-intuitive! Really.

Jerry

Depends

JerryinKC wrote:

I will test it out on another bike trip tomorrow (Tuesday). I hope that is the case, but how completely counter-intuitive! Really.

Jerry

My thinking on a waypoint goes like this. I would use a waypoint either to force the device to choose a certain route (say scenic) or I would be setting up a trip that took me to the waypoint where I would stop and spend some time.

In the first instance, I will be just passing through the waypoint - not navigating "to" the waypoint. So, I would choose the end-point of the route.

In the second instance, I would probably still choose the end-point but would stop at the upcoming waypoint. In choosing the end-point in each instance I would not have as much work to do but would accomplish what I wanted to do.

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JerryinKC wrote:

I will test it out on another bike trip tomorrow (Tuesday). I hope that is the case, but how completely counter-intuitive! Really.

Jerry

You can make it seem more "intuitive" by not placing the waypoints at intersections.

By placing them on a straight section of roadway, you will minimize the lag and reduce the "decision process". The new segment will come up and you will be able to continue on.

Took me a little while to get use to trips..........

Took me a little while to get use to trips instead of routes when I got my 3790LMT but now it works fine for me. I do not know which is better but both work, just differently.

Kind of like going from Mapsource to Basecamp. Took a little while to get use to Basecamp but soon learned it was far more sophisticated and capable of doing more things and now I like it better.

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Not selecting next destination has its problems

If you are talking about "select next destination" in the trip planner and select the "end point" instead of the next stop then I find the program will ignore your way points (destinations) that you chose to force it to a certain route. Instead it will route you any way it wants to get to the end point (final destination). That was a surprising lesson for me when I first got my 2460.

In an equally frustrating problem with Trip Planner is its less than predictable response to a waypoint within a trip. My last trip to Monterey CA I chose to stop at Casa de Fruita both going down and coming back. As it turns out I parked in the same spot both times. Going down the 2460 recognized I had stopped close enough to the spot and it continued my route to Monterey after the stop. Coming back however it did not feel I had gone to Casa de Fruita and for miles tried to take me back to it ( I am not sure if it would have ever given up if I hadn't stopped and fixed it).

The first time that happened to me I had the way point (destination) on a highway to force a route. I was pulling a 12000 lb RV trailer and it somehow missed the spot and began to try to take me back at a critical part of the trip. It was fun!

Trip Planner has major flaws in it as far as I'm concerned. Enough so that I am looking at other brands as a replacement.

jgermann wrote:
JerryinKC wrote:

I will test it out on another bike trip tomorrow (Tuesday). I hope that is the case, but how completely counter-intuitive! Really.

Jerry

My thinking on a waypoint goes like this. I would use a waypoint either to force the device to choose a certain route (say scenic) or I would be setting up a trip that took me to the waypoint where I would stop and spend some time.

In the first instance, I will be just passing through the waypoint - not navigating "to" the waypoint. So, I would choose the end-point of the route.

In the second instance, I would probably still choose the end-point but would stop at the upcoming waypoint. In choosing the end-point in each instance I would not have as much work to do but would accomplish what I wanted to do.

Route?

I had a Nuvi 350 which of course had no routing capability.

My way around it was to select a final destination and then select and create via points along the way which effectively gave me a route. This also let me chose the route to follow instead of just from A to B.

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Actually

Juggernaut wrote:

It still goes waypoint to waypoint.

It is a continuous route, and uninterrupted. Hit the waypoint, and it guides you to the next one seamlessly just like the old routes would do.

Actually it doesn't work like that with the Trip Planner. When you first select the trip and press GO, it requires that you "Select Next Destination" from a list containing the start, end and all waypoints in your Trip. If you select anything other than the first waypoint listed, the Nuvi will calculate the route from your current location directly to the waypoint selected. It completely ignores all the waypoints in your trip between your current location and the location of the waypoint you actually selected.

I assume that once you reach the waypoint you selected the Trip Planner will then give you instructions to the next point and so on until you reach your final destination.

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Are you sure?

I'll have to retry it, as it's been a while since using Trip Planner. I'll report back.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

It does re route you

Juggernaut wrote:

Are you sure?

I'll have to retry it, as it's been a while since using Trip Planner. I'll report back.

My 2450 trip planner reroutes me if I chose the last stop. So many times I have wanted to see the start to finish route but could only see to the next way point. The purpose of the route is to have the nuvi take you the way you want and the only way I have found that to be is selecting the next waypoint when it asked where do you want to go. Can't remember if it keeps going on to the next one of if I have to restart it and chose the next way point.
BUT, I do so love my Nuvi 2450...

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Trip Planner is not a good route planner.

There are two ways to see the complete route after it is set up in Trip Planner (in the 2460 at least). One is to select "Map" in the option after you select the "trip" you want. If you select GO you will only see the route to the way point you selected after you hit Go. The other method is to select GPS Simulator in tools and then check the Trip Planner.

If you select Go and select any way point besides the first one then it ignores your route plans and takes you the way it wants to that selected point. Further if you select the first way point you cannot see the route beyond that first way point. A Catch 22 if I ever saw one.

If you select any point other than the first one it discards all your way points in between. I use way point instead of destination to describe points I select to force the route I want. In reality Trip Planner sees all points as destinations and if you skip over one or all of them the route is recalculated and way points are ignored.

I have seen another quirk in Trip Planner. If I create a route from the "Where To" (say using Points of Interest) I have the program show me options for the route (fastest, shortest etc.). I then selected the route option I liked. I then wanted to save that route so I went to Trip Planner which shows the newly created route and saved it. Woot... I'm ready to go... right?. Well no... once you save it in Trip Planner it only knows your start and finish and it recalculates the route which may well be different than the route you selected to start with. What fun!

No need

Juggernaut wrote:

Are you sure?

I'll have to retry it, as it's been a while since using Trip Planner. I'll report back.

No need, I checked before I posted. wink

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There's always a need to verify info. wink

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I alway look

at the map after I use Trip Planner to plan a route to make sure all my points is where they should be.

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Found it today

I had trip planner with two via points today.
I said GO then went to map.
The map only showed to the 1st via point.
I pressed in the upper right corner of the unit.
This brought up the turn by turn.
In the upper left corner of this screen there is a box to press.
When this is pressed there is another box. This box gives the option MAP. I pressed the Map option and there was the map from the start all the way to the end via point.

I sure am glad to find this. Have needed it seveal times.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

I forgot

I forgot to say I have the Nuvi 2450
This is what the above worked on.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Nice find mgarledge

I have a 2460 and did not realize this was an option. Nice find on the ability to display the entire map!

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It was

cbwatts wrote:

I have a 2460 and did not realize this was an option. Nice find on the ability to display the entire map!

It was a nice find for me. Glad it helped you too.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Good thread

Interesting information

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Finally checked it today.

t923347 wrote:

It completely ignores all the waypoints in your trip between your current location and the location of the waypoint you actually selected.

On the 3790, it followed the waypoints, and did not take an alternate route. There was no announcement of the intermediate waypoints.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK