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I wonder what other drivers thinking about the fact that
to drive save is impossible when almost every car around moves over the speed limits, pushing drivers with peaceful mind to follow the stream in order to eliminate complications like:
1) changing lanes,
2) impossibility to get out of highway (because the right lane is occupied by drivers who pass you, even you drive with the maximum allowed speed!).
3) being stopped by police, blaming that one drives to slow exclaim
Truck drivers are provoking others to compete for the right most lane as they are them-self stimulated to drive as fast as possible ( and in most cases over the speed this truck is physically should maintain due to their tires are not rated for this speed at all ). Why don't authorities implement the gradually increasing speed occupancy lanes rule (rightmost for 80km/h, middle for 100km/h and leftmost for 130 km/h) ? This rule should be accompanied with mandatory passing only on the left rule as well. Then everybody would be happy, by my oppinion.

What an interesting idea!

What an interesting idea!

I am wondering

Would this work in Seattle?

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If your

An 80KM lane on an expressway in Toronto (or any other major city), your kidding, right?

If your being passed on the right and getting stopped for driving to slow IMO you may well hold the solution in your own hands (and foot) rolleyes .

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Those speeds are results but

Those speeds are results but not limits! Highway itself has as you noticed 130Km/h restriction. But as a matter of fact, some cars forced to drive over their physical limits, which causes this speed limits downgraded to 100km/h, even so it is not physically necessary as in your case. And if car joins from the leftmost lane - how is it possible to move to the right lane passed by such foot solving racers?
I see in many cases people think that driving faster equals getting earlier, which is not true. Driving faster and than waiting for hours in jam (caused by somebody who used to solve problems by only one pedal ) does not make one get's earlier it just increases chaos. Driving with steady speed from my experience makes to drive further. Just this speed should be dependant on current vehicles physical situation: load, tires, towing etc.

The rule would work

The rule would work everywhere. It already works in Germany.

Thank you!

Thank you!

driving

you need to be able to drive at a speed which is comforrtable for you and not worry about what the other guys are doing. You can't drive over the limit just because others are.

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question about #2

perepely wrote:

I wonder what other drivers thinking about the fact that
to drive save is impossible when almost every car around moves over the speed limits, pushing drivers with peaceful mind to follow the stream in order to eliminate complications like:
1) changing lanes,
2) impossibility to get out of highway (because the right lane is occupied by drivers who pass you, even you drive with the maximum allowed speed!).
3) being stopped by police, blaming that one drives to slow exclaim
Truck drivers are provoking others to compete for the right most lane as they are them-self stimulated to drive as fast as possible ( and in most cases over the speed this truck is physically should maintain due to their tires are not rated for this speed at all ). Why don't authorities implement the gradually increasing speed occupancy lanes rule (rightmost for 80km/h, middle for 100km/h and leftmost for 130 km/h) ? This rule should be accompanied with mandatory passing only on the left rule as well. Then everybody would be happy, by my oppinion.

I have a question about #2, why would you drive in the left lane? I always drive in the right (unless i am passing) and never experienced this problem.

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Ever been to New York?

The left lane is the "entitlement" lane. If you're behind the wheel, you're entitled to be in the left lane, no matter what speed you're doing or how long a line there is behind you. (Not my belief, but sarcasm. Please don't flame me!) It's not uncommon to see people merge onto the LIE (i.e. I495) and then slam into the left lane as though the sun's gravity has pulled them toward that center divider. They aren't even up to the posted (albeit slow and not recognized) speed limit.

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If you want a real thrill...

try driving down I-35 in Texas. In a couple of years it will be three lanes in each direction from border to border, and the speed limit will be 75 -- maybe higher! So, if a truck doesn't blow you completely off the road or you don't get behind someone out for leisurely drive in the left lane, you can make pretty good time. That is, unless it's before/after a holiday, or a weekend, or a big sports event...

I stay in

right hand lane travelling I-35 going from Austin to Ft.Worth. In the left lane you can get run over. I make pretty good time because I catch up with people passing me because of traffic congesting.

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Right Lane for me

As a professional driver I'll stick with the right lane unless passing. And that's in my car as well.. I drive the speed limit. If you don't like that.. Go around. (Used to have a bumper sticker that said Push Pass or get off my A**..)

All the trucks I've driven are governed to 65 or less. Granted they were company trucks, but governed none the less.

Would a law like this help? In our society? No, there will always be someone that wants to go faster than you...

Keep right except to pass

In washington state they have a law and signs posted on the freeway that say keep right except to pass. They don't seem to enforce the rule but it is in place. If everybody did this it would make things much simpler.

WA state

robert5733 wrote:

In washington state they have a law and signs posted on the freeway that say keep right except to pass. They don't seem to enforce the rule but it is in place. If everybody did this it would make things much simpler.

I spoke with a WSP trooper about this. He said he pulls people over for this, but never has issued a citation for it. He will issue a ticket for something else, like seatbelt, insurance, registration, equipment violation or drivers license. If everything is OK, he gives a verbal warning.

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PA has same law

robert5733 wrote:

In washington state they have a law and signs posted on the freeway that say keep right except to pass. They don't seem to enforce the rule but it is in place. If everybody did this it would make things much simpler.

But I haven't ever seen it enforced. Right lane except for passing for me too!

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Last Friday Actually

camerabob wrote:

The left lane is the "entitlement" lane. If you're behind the wheel, you're entitled to be in the left lane, no matter what speed you're doing or how long a line there is behind you. (Not my belief, but sarcasm. Please don't flame me!) It's not uncommon to see people merge onto the LIE (i.e. I495) and then slam into the left lane as though the sun's gravity has pulled them toward that center divider. They aren't even up to the posted (albeit slow and not recognized) speed limit.

I drove up to Long Island last Thursday for work, came home on Friday. I didn't spend too much time on the LIE this time around, but I used to drive up weekly last year. It is a nuisance, but I can never figure out why anyone would be in the left lane if they need an exit which is almost always on the right...

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A few years ago

robert5733 wrote:

In washington state they have a law and signs posted on the freeway that say keep right except to pass. They don't seem to enforce the rule but it is in place. If everybody did this it would make things much simpler.

A few years ago I was driving from BC to Seattle, and saw someone driving in the left lane. I got behind them and flashed my high beams a few times for them to move over, and he turned on his flashing red/blue lights. I guess this was his way of saying he wasn't going to move out of the left lane...

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Increasing Speed Limits is Not the Answer

I was recently driving on the I-15 and 215 between Los Anegeles and San Diego. In many areas these roads are four and six lanes wide. I was almost always in the first two lanes on the right-hand side and be doing 70 MPH.

But I would regularly see people fly by in the left-most lanes and then they would swerve across three or four lanes of traffic to get to their exit, invariably cutting other cars off.

So I don't think increasing speed limits for multi-lane highways is the answer. Because these types of drivers would simply be going faster than that limit in those lanes anyway - and still cutting people off when they want to get to an exit.

It is simpler. Just always

It is simpler. Just always observing left side, when you want to pass. I did not even care about my right side when I want to get back or get out. Just show right turn signal and I am sure everybody wait till I move back while ready to pass me from the left if I am to slow works like magic.

You are lucky. They could

You are lucky. They could tell you about not proper use of high beams. Usually they come from behind and look into your car, maybe wanted to adjust their radars to the leader's speedometer smile

2 seconds distance and safely changing line rules

DanielT wrote:

I was recently driving on the I-15 and 215 between Los Anegeles and San Diego. In many areas these roads are four and six lanes wide. I was almost always in the first two lanes on the right-hand side and be doing 70 MPH.

But I would regularly see people fly by in the left-most lanes and then they would swerve across three or four lanes of traffic to get to their exit, invariably cutting other cars off.

So I don't think increasing speed limits for multi-lane highways is the answer. Because these types of drivers would simply be going faster than that limit in those lanes anyway - and still cutting people off when they want to get to an exit.

Oh I forgot another important rule. Car have to keep 2 seconds distance from each other. So if somebody intruding in your lane to close it is definitely not polite and could be enforced by "not safely changing lane rule". So it is their fault if they want to exit and don't slow down to adjust your speed and go out behind.

LIE

shrifty wrote:
camerabob wrote:

The left lane is the "entitlement" lane. If you're behind the wheel, you're entitled to be in the left lane, no matter what speed you're doing or how long a line there is behind you. (Not my belief, but sarcasm. Please don't flame me!) It's not uncommon to see people merge onto the LIE (i.e. I495) and then slam into the left lane as though the sun's gravity has pulled them toward that center divider. They aren't even up to the posted (albeit slow and not recognized) speed limit.

I drove up to Long Island last Thursday for work, came home on Friday. I didn't spend too much time on the LIE this time around, but I used to drive up weekly last year. It is a nuisance, but I can never figure out why anyone would be in the left lane if they need an exit which is almost always on the right...

What is LIE?

What is a lie?

1. The size of the fish I caught Saturday.
2. Long Island Expressway

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Visibilty

n9mxq wrote:

As a professional driver I'll stick with the right lane unless passing. And that's in my car as well.. I drive the speed limit. If you don't like that.. Go around. (Used to have a bumper sticker that said Push Pass or get off my A**..)

All the trucks I've driven are governed to 65 or less. Granted they were company trucks, but governed none the less.

Would a law like this help? In our society? No, there will always be someone that wants to go faster than you...

It is different from driver to driver, but professionals as I know get paid according how much mileage they made per some period. Here the equation - the faster the more $$. But it casts so much safety. Just today I was observing situation when one rusty truck going from the first to third lane all the time and it was not a problem, but unfortunately it was very heavy rain and even without it there were almost impossible to see anything around. And when two trucks in front of you causing waterfall like Niagara it feels very scary to stay around.

Lie

spokybob wrote:

1. The size of the fish I caught Saturday.
2. Long Island Expressway

I see - it is from French.
I usually measure fish in inches... Last time I caught the very small one.. it has only 3" eyes.

I thought it is something like High Velocity Lane here in Canada, which allowed only for 2 or more passengers inside

Or as I like to call it

spokybob wrote:

1. The size of the fish I caught Saturday.
2. Long Island Expressway

The Long Island Distressway...

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Join from left

shrifty wrote:
perepely wrote:

I wonder what other drivers thinking about the fact that
to drive save is impossible when almost every car around moves over the speed limits, pushing drivers with peaceful mind to follow the stream in order to eliminate complications like:
1) changing lanes,
2) impossibility to get out of highway (because the right lane is occupied by drivers who pass you, even you drive with the maximum allowed speed!).
3) being stopped by police, blaming that one drives to slow exclaim
Truck drivers are provoking others to compete for the right most lane as they are them-self stimulated to drive as fast as possible ( and in most cases over the speed this truck is physically should maintain due to their tires are not rated for this speed at all ). Why don't authorities implement the gradually increasing speed occupancy lanes rule (rightmost for 80km/h, middle for 100km/h and leftmost for 130 km/h) ? This rule should be accompanied with mandatory passing only on the left rule as well. Then everybody would be happy, by my oppinion.

I have a question about #2, why would you drive in the left lane? I always drive in the right (unless i am passing) and never experienced this problem.

It is simply only situation when one come from the left when two express-ways joining to the third one. Otherwise I always start from the right lane. If I reach some slow vehicle, I go to the left to pass. But the the bad thigh start happening. Some other car joining from the right and try to sneak, blocking from returning back... You see it would not happen if such rule was in charge.

LOL

Ok, going into the city, the Holland tunnel has 9 lanes merging into 2, and it is continuous. No stopping, no confusion as to whose turn it is. The Lincoln Tunnel is 12 lanes into 3.

How is it that those two situations seem to act as they should? Because 19 mil. people are so nice to one another? LOL

Around DC

In Maryland, there is no law for 'keep right except to pass'. There are many left exits and entrances, which means slower drivers using them often stay on the left. There are also a lot of 2-3 lane roads that are not limited-access and thus have left hand turns which perpetuates the issue. Combine the 'any lane for any speed' concept with everyone tailgating and going 5-10 over the limit, driving is horrible around DC. If you want to change lanes, you MUST cut someone off, turn signal or not. Oh yeah, using your turn signal to change lanes isn't required in MD either.

holland tunnel

johnnatash4 wrote:

Ok, going into the city, the Holland tunnel has 9 lanes merging into 2, and it is continuous. No stopping, no confusion as to whose turn it is. The Lincoln Tunnel is 12 lanes into 3.

How is it that those two situations seem to act as they should? Because 19 mil. people are so nice to one another? LOL

I take the Holland tunnel, and would have to agree. People really seem to understand the concept of merging and taking their turn here.

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Around DC

Maryland would be an exception. Actually this rules should be applied to Express-ways only. If road has left exit it should be considered regular city road which has no right except pass rule, but has limits 80Km/H or 50Ml/H in US. What I am saying, is that to drive safe the road should have appropriate conditions like: exits on the right, physically divided centre, flat, dry, clean surface. The rules to drive such roads could be simplified and make drivers to drive with desired/afforded speed and has less impact to each other by following those rules. I still think it is possible. After all, they follow rules in tunnels, why could not they do it on open roads?

Unated nations, internet and Earth wide solutions

shrifty wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

Ok, going into the city, the Holland tunnel has 9 lanes merging into 2, and it is continuous. No stopping, no confusion as to whose turn it is. The Lincoln Tunnel is 12 lanes into 3.

How is it that those two situations seem to act as they should? Because 19 mil. people are so nice to one another? LOL

I take the Holland tunnel, and would have to agree. People really seem to understand the concept of merging and taking their turn here.

19 mil. people have 19 mil. opinions, but they just voluntarily give up to something that satisfies opinion of very few ones, because they don't even know that there are better then those corrupted/lazy/greedy/etc ones. That's why I want to make this discussion as much open as possible to whole world. Why wouldn't it be the topic of next NAFTA/Unesco/Unitated Nations session?
Nowadays almost everybody has internet access. Why don't try to use it to select best rules for any region in the world and then follow it to everybody's advantage?
I have another questions regarding another space of people's interconnections, like this, but I would better create another topic dedicated to them.

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