More Map Info .... fact or fiction?

 

I called Garmin this morning about another issue, so thought while I had him on the phone I'd ask about the new maps.

I asked what's the latest on V9 maps? He said they're not v9 ..... they're called v2008. The new maps versions go by the year.

I asked when are they going to be available. He said they already are on some new units; so August or September time frame would be a guesstimate.

Then I asked him what the update procedure is. His answer was 'no free updates because their map producer was complaining that they weren't receiving enough $$ when the maps were given away'.

Just another tidbit of information. Fact or Fiction? Who knows??

RT

Updated 6/13/2007 .... may be fact??
I got the same info this morning when inquiring about the changed North American NT Map Update Page. I was told it will be version 2008 (not v9) and will be available end of July or first part of August.

I was also told again you'll have two choices ... don't update or fork out the cash for the new version! No freebies. (although I can't help thinking this may change if enough people complain.)

RT

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"Internet: As Yogi Berra would say, "Don't believe 90% of what you read, and verify the other half."

v2008

I wonder why 2008 if they are/going to be available in 2007? I like the year idea in the name, makes sense, but if it is data from 2007, it should be so named.

deborah
DJKM
Houston, TX

Guessing

I don't know, but that's what he said. I'm guessing it's a lot like car models, they come out the year before the model year. There's so much conflicting map info coming out of the Garmin camp, who knows what's correct.
RT

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"Internet: As Yogi Berra would say, "Don't believe 90% of what you read, and verify the other half."

c'mon Mr Garmin...

I haven't seen maybe people complain about paying for the update, we just want the updates!! Someone from Garmin must read this, is it really such a big secret??

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Texan Brit

Original post update

See update on original post.

RT

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"Internet: As Yogi Berra would say, "Don't believe 90% of what you read, and verify the other half."

Data is older than you think

In most cases, the data is actually 2 - 3 years old on new streets and roads. I don't know if they data is more recent if it is a result of an individual submitting a comment or correction, however.

So this v2008 will most likely include information from 2005 - 2006. We'll see.

Joe

exactly

marinerjoe wrote:

In most cases, the data is actually 2 - 3 years old on new streets and roads. I don't know if they data is more recent if it is a result of an individual submitting a comment or correction, however.

So this v2008 will most likely include information from 2005 - 2006. We'll see.

Joe

This is part of an email response I got after submitting a map error to garmin and not navteq directly as I usually do.

"...When Garmin publishes a product, it uses the latest detail available from vendors at the time it starts putting the product together. We don't digitize the detail, though...any imperfections or omissions in the source detail get included in the final product, along with the positives...

...It is a running database that is kept, and not every piece of data will be the same "age" from it. In most large metro areas of North America, the NavTeq detail is premium and is usually quite good (though about any map of this kind of scale will have some errors). NavTeq drives those roads and field verifies them. NavTeq is commonly regarded as making the best routable North American detail in the business, which is why we use them..."

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........Garmin StreetPilot c550 / Nüvi 765...........

I would think Garmin pays a

I would think Garmin pays a fee, or buys these maps, so why would the map producer complain about Garmin giving anything away? It would be costing Garmin, not the map company. It sounds to me like the map company gets a little payola for each map put on a GPS.

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Garmin 660

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The typical way that software licenses work is that the company purchasing the license does so for a specific number of "seats". The software can only be used for that number of "seats" and if the company wants/needs more, they have to pay for it.

I have no actual idea how Garmin's deal works with NAVTEQ, but I would imagine that they pay a fee for every unit sold with the mapping data. And if that fee is supposed to cover one unit and Garmin has been allowing two unit, I would definitely see why NAVTEQ would have a problem with it.

Apparently new maps shipping on new retail units

Here, http://gpsmagazine.com/forum /viewtopic.php?t=310 somoene says they just got a new unit with the NT2008 version maps on it. If it's out in production now, upgrades should be available in the not to distant future. And I will gladly pay the $75 for it.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

v2008 is shipping it seems

agree with the above, other forums say nuvi 200's and 660's from Sears, Costco & Amazon shipped with v2008 maps. Note it doesn't seem widespread though.

One post for a 200 dated 5/12/07 says he got his from Amazon with v2008 on it.

C'mon Garmin you have the software, give it to us!!!!@!!!!!

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Texan Brit

How often

But really, how often do you really need the update. Unless there's major omissions on 2 to 3 year old roads in you area you really don't need to upgrade but maybe every 2 years or so. I lived in my house in a new tract for 7 years, the street just started showing up 2 years ago in the mapping programs.

New 660 came with NT 2008

I just got my 660 last week. I purchased it from Costco, and it came with City Navigator North America NT 2008 pre-installed already.

Ditto idiotto. I ordered a

Ditto idiotto.

I ordered a nuvi 360 from buydig.com on 6/13 and it came with NT 2008 as well, so the maps are available.

City Navigator North America NT 2008

Picked up a replacement Nuvi 350 at Fry's this afternoon and it came loaded with City Navigator North America NT 2008. The unit was returned not to get the new maps, but rather due to a 15 min lag time in acquiring satellites.

NT 2008

We received 2 new Hyundai Nuvi 360s at work today, and they are loaded with NT 2008.

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Steve

Just checked my friend's 660

Just checked my friend's 660 who just got his from Costco begining of last week, but it has last year's maps on it, so it must be luck of the draw.

Typically I upgrade every other map release. Since this unit has maps newer than I had been using in my old Street Pilot 2610, I'm unsure if I'll upgrade or not when the new maps are released this summer.

nuvi 200

I got my nuvi 200 at Circuit City the last week of April and it has NTV8. I haven't noticed any errors or missing roads that would make me pay for an update at this time.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Order from Costco.com

My colleague just got his 660 last night. He also got from Costco. And he got the new maps as well.

The trick is to order it online from Costco.com. Units that are available in stores are last year ones with old software, while online orders are filled with new inventory.

Nuvi 200 Best Buy

I purchased a Nuvi 200 from Best Buy on Sunday July 22 and it came loaded with City Navigator North America NT 2008. I did find that there was a software update for the operating system dated around July 18 so I downloaded and updated this software to the unit.

Everything is working fine as best as i can tell.