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Texting while Walking Banned in NJ

 

Smartphones are getting smarter these days. Too bad we can't say the same about the users.

Avid texters beware: Fort Lee, N.J. police said they will begin issuing $85 jaywalking tickets to pedestrians who are caught texting while walking.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/texting-while-walking-b...

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Perhaps Next

they will ticket folks who are chewing gum - the REAL danger!!!

Fred

I want to live in that town.

I want to live in that town. Imagine a place where crime is so under control that these are the kind of things they have time to worry about.

Distracted

The most ridiculous thing I've heard today! That police chief should be laughed out of town.

Chief doesn't

The Police Chief doesn't make the laws, you'll need to put that on the city council or whatever they call it there. Ultimately, it is the voter who is responsible for that silliness.

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Not Quite

This is a good illustration of not believing everything you read until doing due diligence - just like reporters need to check their sources.

I believe that the fines in Fort Lee are for jaywalking - whether or not smartphones are involved.

Another article

Evidently, "More than 20 of their pedestrians have been hit by cars in 2012. In just six weeks, they've fined 117 texters."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/18056565

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interesting

interesting

New Jersey

jackj180 wrote:

The most ridiculous thing I've heard today! That police chief should be laughed out of town.

Hey we're talking about New Jersey, a state that outlawed runny eggs a while back, no sunny side up eggs. It's since been rescinded but NJ is like a foreign country.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_n4_v26/ai_118...

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ticket

Good idea for drivers, but ridiculous for pedestrians.

designed to protect people from themselves

jfulton wrote:

Good idea for drivers, but ridiculous for pedestrians.

My guess is the idea is to try and protect people from themselves, if they are walking and not watching where they are going. I say let them be, if the wander out into the path of a moving vehicle so be it.

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Darwin Awards

shrifty wrote:
jfulton wrote:

Good idea for drivers, but ridiculous for pedestrians.

My guess is the idea is to try and protect people from themselves, if they are walking and not watching where they are going. I say let them be, if the wander out into the path of a moving vehicle so be it.

Maybe they are trying to break into the top ten Darwin Awards. I feel the same way about outlawing texting while driving. If you survive the wreck you cause then you should loose your license for 5 or 10 yrs plus a very hefty fine. 2nd wreck you loose it for life. But let folks do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Another revenue source for

Another revenue source for Fort Lee. smile

Wait til they get cameras for that....

confused

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The People's Republic of New Jersey, home to the >>>

worst drivers in the country, the place that 50% of the adults surveyed said they'd leave if they could, knows what's best for you...Comraden!

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Gotta find some way to bring in some more revenue...

Hmmmmm.... this revenue generating stuff is really getting ridiculous...REALLY? !!!

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OK.....so where the heck am I?

Exactly what I think

More revenue for sure.

I'm trying hard !

To figure out what this thread has to do with GPSs but maybe they were texting their coordinates from the GPS on their smartphone !

??????

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Ranting

MrKenFL wrote:

To figure out what this thread has to do with GPSs but maybe they were texting their coordinates from the GPS on their smartphone !

??????

People have not had much opportunity recently to rant about poor government, revenue grabbing, etc. This gives them the opportunity.

absolutely nothing

MrKenFL wrote:

I'm trying hard To figure out what this thread has to do with GPSs but maybe they were texting their coordinates from the GPS on their smartphone !

??????

That's why it's in Open Talk. As the Borg Queen once stated, it's for any topic not necessarily GPS related.

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Borq Queen

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+1

Box Car wrote:
MrKenFL wrote:

I'm trying hard To figure out what this thread has to do with GPSs but maybe they were texting their coordinates from the GPS on their smartphone !

??????

That's why it's in Open Talk. As the Borg Queen once stated, it's for any topic not necessarily GPS related.

+1

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Ban Driving While Talking

Since talking causes distracting to the brain processes required for safe driving, many locales are considering banning driving while talking on cell phone even if hands free. I wonder when they will try and pass laws banning all talking while driving? When they do, I guess we'll all have to install a system similar to Get Smart's cone of silence!

Thanks gosh we don't get all the government we pay for!

Mea Culpa

MrKenFL wrote:

To figure out what this thread has to do with GPSs but maybe they were texting their coordinates from the GPS on their smartphone !

??????

My error ! Didn't see that it was in Open Talk forum !

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Reduce Risk - Not Enforce Laws

soberbyker wrote:

Hey we're talking about New Jersey, a state that outlawed runny eggs a while back, no sunny side up eggs. It's since been rescinded but NJ is like a foreign country.

I work in Public Health and routinely deal with good ideas gone bad... like runny eggs (rooster juice redface ).

I feel it is important that people be aware of hazards (like eating runny eggs or texting while walking), and are able to do something to address those hazards to protect themselves. This is a good idea.

But then supporters of a "good idea" feel that the desired response is not happening quickly enough or broadly enough - so they make it a law. And then ENFORCEMENT of that law becomes more important than the good idea.

Then you have police officers chasing people staring at their smartphones or disguising themselves as bums on street corners to catch drivers eating a rotisserie chicken (another humourous story).

do we need radar

built in to our cell phones?

I'm the tax man

If you drive a car I'll tax the street ........

I'm sure someone, somewhere is working on a breathing tax.

Probably here in Maryland. sad

You cannot legislate stupidity.

Amen

TMK wrote:

worst drivers in the country, the place that 50% of the adults surveyed said they'd leave if they could, knows what's best for you...Comraden!

All hail the Nanny State!

More!

You should also get a ticket if you text in your house. You could knock over flowers or something.

This is awesome. Just a few more laws and everyone will be a criminal.

Too many politicians with

Too many politicians with too much time on their hands. They don't want to tackle the tough problems like deficits etc. so they punt to silly little stuff in a vein attempt to show the public that they are doing there job. It's our fault, if we keep voting these jokers in, we get what we deserve.

Politician's Have Too Much Idle Time

Besides coming up with lame ways to get into the citizen's pockets this shows that instead of tackling real pressing issues of the community/state, that politician's have way too much time on their hands. They have nothing else to do but come up with stupid laws too pass away their time and draw their paychecks.

Time to thin the herd.

If that's all they can do, do we really need that many useless politicians sucking the tax coffers dry?

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OK.....so where the heck am I?

well...

No shocker, just home they keep the silly laws on the east coast...and not here.

Urban myths

here we have another example of how easily people will believe a far out claim that "confirms" their core beliefs - in spite of whether there was any truth to the claim.

At least one news service that leaped on the initial bandwagon has taken the step of correcting the misimpression.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/texting-while-walki...

When will they have tickets

When will they have tickets for texting while sitting?

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screw loose conservative conclusion

jackj180 wrote:

Maybe they are trying to break into the top ten Darwin Awards. I feel the same way about outlawing texting while driving. If you survive the wreck you cause then you should loose your license for 5 or 10 yrs plus a very hefty fine. 2nd wreck you loose it for life. But let folks do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Sounds like a screw loose conservative conclusion to me.

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Explain please

jackj180 wrote:

Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Not trying to be cute here, but I do not understand what is meant by "prior restraint".

Would you expand on this concept, please? Or, give some examples of other "prior restraint".

prior restraint

jgermann wrote:
jackj180 wrote:

Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Not trying to be cute here, but I do not understand what is meant by "prior restraint".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_restraint

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What happens if someone dies!

jackj180 wrote:
shrifty wrote:
jfulton wrote:

Good idea for drivers, but ridiculous for pedestrians.

My guess is the idea is to try and protect people from themselves, if they are walking and not watching where they are going. I say let them be, if the wander out into the path of a moving vehicle so be it.

Maybe they are trying to break into the top ten Darwin Awards. I feel the same way about outlawing texting while driving. If you survive the wreck you cause then you should loose your license for 5 or 10 yrs plus a very hefty fine. 2nd wreck you loose it for life. But let folks do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

What happens if someone you know gets killed because they were texting while driving and lived. How will will feel then?

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prior restraint

Every state has drunk driving laws. How is that working out? It is a much bigger problem than texting while walking or driving for that matter.
Nearly 11,000 deaths related to alcohol-impaired driving still occur each year in the United States, despite a three-decade surge in anti-drunken driving activism, stricter laws and clever slogans like “Friends don’t let friends drive drunk.” There are more than 110 million instances of impaired driving each year.

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Texting

That is pretty funny

Yeah, what a difference a river makes>>>

bootman wrote:
TMK wrote:

worst drivers in the country, the place that 50% of the adults surveyed said they'd leave if they could, knows what's best for you...Comraden!

All hail the Nanny State!

I was born in Trenton...left in 1971 when my parents moved to Bucks...never looked back. Remember that huge controversy when Pennsy hung the signs "America Starts Here" on the PA side of all the bridges? LOL

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You have to wonder >>>

pkdmslf wrote:

Besides coming up with lame ways to get into the citizen's pockets this shows that instead of tackling real pressing issues of the community/state, that politician's have way too much time on their hands. They have nothing else to do but come up with stupid laws too pass away their time and draw their paychecks.

Time to thin the herd.

If that's all they can do, do we really need that many useless politicians sucking the tax coffers dry?

if Anarchy would really be that bad smile

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"You can't get there from here"

Thanks for the link, BUT...

VersatileGuy wrote:
jgermann wrote:
jackj180 wrote:

Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Not trying to be cute here, but I do not understand what is meant by "prior restraint".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_restraint

Thanks for the link, but I do not see how the issue of censorship relates in the context of either "texting while walking" or to "jaywalking"

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jgermann wrote:
VersatileGuy wrote:
jgermann wrote:
jackj180 wrote:

Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Not trying to be cute here, but I do not understand what is meant by "prior restraint".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_restraint

Thanks for the link, but I do not see how the issue of censorship relates in the context of either "texting while walking" or to "jaywalking"

I assumed that jackj180 meant "prevent a 'bad thing' from happening", as opposed to "let the 'bad thing' happen and then deal with it afterward".

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Texting Ticket......

As always, follow the money. You didn't think city street cleaning was about clean streets did you? LOL.

Cheers,

Robert

Prior restraint

jgermann wrote:
jackj180 wrote:

Prior restraint only works in the mind of liberals.

Not trying to be cute here, but I do not understand what is meant by "prior restraint".

Would you expand on this concept, please? Or, give some examples of other "prior restraint".

Probably not the best term for "Making an activity that is harmless illegal because it might hurt someone". We could expand on that concept and outlaw knives because someone could get hurt cutting their steak. Or we could outlaw pants because some folks fall when they try to put their pants on while standing. Come to think, we could solve that by making it illegal to put your pants on while standing.

"Mind of a liberal" - contradiction in terms. See above.

That's my point

spokybob wrote:

Every state has drunk driving laws. How is that working out? It is a much bigger problem than texting while walking or driving for that matter.
Nearly 11,000 deaths related to alcohol-impaired driving still occur each year in the United States, despite a three-decade surge in anti-drunken driving activism, stricter laws and clever slogans like “Friends don’t let friends drive drunk.” There are more than 110 million instances of impaired driving each year.

Passing a law doesn't eliminate the activity.

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jackj180 wrote:

"Making an activity that is harmless illegal because it might hurt someone".

Thanks for the clarification. However, in an earlier post you also said

jackj180 wrote:

I feel the same way about outlawing texting while driving. If you survive the wreck you cause then you should loose your license for 5 or 10 yrs plus a very hefty fine. 2nd wreck you loose it for life. But let folks do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone.

Without pre-emptive intervention, or "prior restraint", or whatever we choose to call it, the consequences of the [negligent] driver's first (and perhaps second) texting-while-driving offenses are likely to be borne by innocent third parties: the people he maims or kills in the "wrecks" that he himself manages to survive.

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or, in the words of

the renowned 20th century philosopher Forrest Gump "Stupid is as stupid does."

Passing laws against stupidity drags the lawmaker down to the same level as the perpetrator. You can't legislate against stupidity and trying to do so is just as bad.

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Box Car wrote:

You can't legislate against stupidity and trying to do so is just as bad.

...but surely you can see the difference between something stupid I might do that could hurt me and something stupid I might do that could hurt (or kill) you, right?

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VersatileGuy wrote:
Box Car wrote:

You can't legislate against stupidity and trying to do so is just as bad.

...but surely you can see the difference between something stupid I might do that could hurt me and something stupid I might do that could hurt (or kill) you, right?

And passing a law against stupidity stops the behavior in what way? Like I stated, passing laws against stupidity either elevates the stupidity to where it is acceptable or lowers the lawmaker to the level of the act.

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