Cordon multi-target photo-radar system leaves no car untagged

Big Brother just got Bigger.

More money for Simicon and the government

It's interesting the comments all blame the camera and technology rather than the drivers exceeding not only the posted limit (whatever that was) and the variance (whatever that was also).

to a state without front plates.

Box Car's footnote says:
Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought. - A. Lincoln

Everyone "ought" to obey the law.

If municipalities need more funds to provide the services that its citizens demand, then it would seem reasonable to raise those funds from those breaking the law rather than assessing everyone.

We don't have front license plates in PA, so I'm good to go unless they have it facing the rear of the vehicle.

I'm not too concerned about the cameras, I just wish there would be greater emphasis on reducing cell-phone use, eating, grooming, etc.....

I'm sure the cameras would not be concerned about someone texting and crossing the lines nearly hitting others, as long as they are within the speed limit

The other day I saw someone using TWO phones, one to talk and the other to text at the same time.

but most of us in here are downloading redlight/speed camera to use. Why?

In some cases it is just to know that they are in the area. It provided you alittle extra warning so you can react to the traffic around you. Also helps to keep from getting a ticket in cities your not familary with.

There are many places where the speed limit is set unreasonably low. When a section of road has 80%+ of vehicles exceeding the posted limit, perhaps it is time to review and perhaps increase that limit.

I hope that most of the members here would never knowingly run a red light, but I suspect that many "speed" because that are trying to drive at the same speed as others around them.

Since speed cameras are not sensitive to everyone tooling along at exactly the same speed, it seems helpful to know where speed cameras are.

For me, I can honestly say I obey every law, with the exception of speed. A typical week of driving is 99% highway, averaging about 1,000 miles. Often, I travel between 300-450 miles straight. I can save a considerable amount of time overall.

I will not talk/text on the phone (hands free or otherwise), eat, comb my hair, shave, put on makeup, read a book, change cds, breast-feed kids, etc....................

My hands are on the wheel, eyes and mind on the road at all times. Not too concerned about the speed, just not interested in paying a ticket

Let's be real here. It is sometimes impossible to drive the posted speed limit either because the limit is set too low or the flow of traffic is faster than the posted speed. I just think that the posted speed limit and the variance will continue to go down as needed for Simicon and the government to get the money they want or need just as the yellow light time seems to be of shorter duration at red light camera locations. I do not try to speed when I drive but I do drive with the flow of traffic.

Just to make the point, I was not singling you out, it was just that yours was the last response to the OP at the time I posted and happened to have the same sentiment as the one above stating "they're just money grubbers." Now, I know you didn't use those words or necessarily imply them in your comment. My comment was directed at the fact there was no admission to the fact many vehicles in the video clip where traveling below the test threshold speed and several were not. The sentiment of the comments up to that point was "it's not me that's the problem, it's something else." The something else is almost always painted as "the speed limit is too low or I was just keeping up with traffic."

While many complain about speed limits being artificially low, there are a great many other factors governing the setting of a speed limit other than the oft repeated 80th percentile. Among those factors are road geometry, the number of driveways, the type of neighborhood, sight distance and, probably the biggest would be the local laws. Many localities have regulations on their books with maximum speed limits for certain roads. Check with your local public works agency responsible for that road.

If you feel a speed limit is too low, write a letter to the Director. Outline your belief regarding the speed limit and ask the road segment be reevaluated. It will take some time, but I can almost assure you a study will be done and all the factors evaluated which may result in a change. You may not like the change as increased density may dictate the speed be lower. Probably one of the better examples of reengineering done to roads are the inclusion of traffic circles and speed bumps due to complaints of the people living along that stretch of road about "the idiots who race through."

A great many cities and towns have a set of basic speed laws for their streets that were set 50 years or more ago. The highway or public works department can't do anything about those, that's something they need to adhere to. If the problem are laws, then complain to the council or other governing body and ask to have them changed.

I'm driving in the 5th lane since this device only does four lanes, lol.

or be the 33rd car on the road

it is not impossible to drive the posted speed limit either (1) because the limit is set too low or (2) because the flow of traffic is faster than the posted speed. It may be painful to go 15 MPH in a school zone - but hardly impossible. Likewise, it is not impossible to drive the speed limit when others are speeding.

However, as Box Car has suggested, if you think that the limits are set too low - for whatever reason - then work to change the limits.

Try going the speed limit on the Kennedy in Chicago. Not only will you be passed, you'll be met with road rage. Good luck not causing an accident. Even semis go faster than the posted limit.

What if where you worked, they came up with a way to find all of your mistakes, and charged you for each one? After a while, you'd get sick of it.

I'm surprised the government hasn't come up with a way to monitor our every move. Put a box in our vehicles, and make sure we come to a complete stop at every stop sign, go exactly the speed limit, stay in our lanes, no texting (but using smart phones for everything else is okay?), no talking on phones in construction zones, and for each infraction, send us a bill each month. That's what this is becoming.

As far as changing the speed limit, that will never happen. The mentality is, "If we raise the limit, people will go even faster."

@twix, are you saying it is "impossible" to go the speed limit? As that was what I commented on. The fact that other people are going faster than you does not necessarily subject you to other's road rage. If you were to get in the "slow lane" and drive the speed limit, I suspect you will find others going slower than the speed limit for whatever reasons (loaded pickups, people with trailers, campers and RVs, etc.)

There have been changes upward in the speed limits. Recall that there was a national 55 MPH at one time.
Are you saying that there is some speed limit that people will not exceed?

How about the LSR - Land Speed Record? I don't think many would even be capable of approaching more than a fraction of it.

In the circumstance I am referring to, yes. That is why I was offering you to try it. The speed limit on the Kennedy is 55.

I often find it impossible to go the speed limit. The sign says 50 or 55 mph limit, but the traffic is barely moving.

That was funny!

The article stated that 1/3 of states have banned the use of photo detection systems. Which states are these?