And it reminds me of the Hertz neverlosts that I would use in the 90s! LOL The good thing is it only cost $2800 extra.
Built-ins are too expensive and they lock you in too.
Wow, what does the $2,800.00 device do that say a $100 Garmin won't do?
you knew what type of response you would get....! Hey, enjoy it...but keep your Garmin!
Don't care what it cost I will have a nav in my next car (well there will be limits ). I will keep the Nuvi but just want one in the car for when I forget the Nuvi as I did last week and needed it.
I thought car companies like to charge a lot for a map upgrade.
I was looking at Honda because we were looking at another Honda Odyssey and they charge $185 for each map update$$$
Charge an equally outrageous amount for map updates.
I now appreciate that the nuvi 2350 does get me where I need to go. I thought that by having built in navi I wouldn't have to keep taking the nuvi in and out etc. But after having the car for 2 days, it's as if the factory navi doesn't even exist. Still using the nuvi for now...
The built-in use the vehicle's audio system. It also has a classy look to it. Nothing hanging on the dash or windshield.
Could have bought a really nice smartphone and a few years of service to boot with free maps, phone and a navigator, and you still would have never been lost just like OJ's old company.
Someone told me Navigators add nothing to trade in value, just like a radio doesn't.
That was another factor why I just decided to upgrade to a newer Nuvi than get the factory nav in my next car. Free lifetime traffic and map updates with the Garmin, a traffic subscription and almost $200 per map upgrade with the factory unit. I like the look of the built-in unit but the price they charge for them is ridiculous.
You might want to have bluetooth capability to run your IPhone through the stereo system. But save your money and put it on an IPhone.
What they should do is offer a built-in GPS cradle in the vehicle dash.
But of course, that would require all the GPS manufacturers to standardize their mounting hardware and all the GPSs would have to be the same size, or at least limited in size.
Don't think so, but you never know.
I have the GM Nav in my Corvette convert and like it far better than any of the Garmin's I have owned or my Droid X. The extra on the window sticker was $1,750 which also added additional other things like Voice command control, BOSE 7 speaker system, XM & MP3.
I still have my Garmin 295W that I use when I'm in another vehicle without nav, on foot and as a backup for custom POI reference. Allows me to just use it as a supplement to the built in nav for red light and speed camera warnings when I'm in an unfamiliar area.
It actually has many more features than any of the Garmin's I have had like integration into the heads up windshield display so you do not have to take your eyes off the road, gives 3 different route options to choose from when you set a destination that each shows different road types and any toll road options that may save time and distance, large touch screen display, do not have to remove it every time you get out of the car to prevent theft and many more. I leave the car parked many times with the top down and really like not having to deal with mounting and unmounting a GPS unit all the time. The only thing I really miss is the ability to add custom POI's to the built in unit.
Never had a vehicle with onboard Navi. Can you add poi's to it like red light cameras and speed points etc?
I thought I wanted one but all your reasons for having it makes me want one even more.
We did the bluetooth pairing today and it was all by voice. The $2800 included the Bose stereo (way overrated for decades but better than the base audio), which also had the USB port for iPod integration. It also uses the screen for rear backup. I didn't get navi in my BMW since I absolutely refused to pay 2k, and it in my mind would force me to pay more for an extended warranty down the line, AND I like the look of the dash without. But after getting BMW loaners over the past 5 years, their system has come a long way, it has a nice alternative view to the OJ simpson one in the new Enclave! But good points, the navi system adds some of the other integration--I just wish the navi part were better...
I was driving today listening to XM (I've only listened to it in rental vehicles) and all of a sudden it warns me of traffic ahead, shows how many mph and exactly where. Like I said, I'm still using the nuvi to compare. The 2350 LMT had a solid green light as in smooth sailing ahead. I exited and looked up, traffic was at a standstill. 3 miles up the road I could see it's still completely stopped.
Looks like GM navi 1, Nuvi 1. But GM's win saved me at least 35 min. on my commute home.
I love the Nav in my Lexus....I also like my Garmin for my second car...two totally different units....The Lexus had many of the features 4 years ago that Garmin is just starting to use....
in the 90's
Biggest mistake getting the Buick NAVI. It stinks and doesn't compare to a Garmin. The routes are insane and the re-direct are awful. Good luck to the member who just threw away thousands. Wait until you get the letter charging you $200 for the yearly maps.
my Volvo, having two units is the way to go, I have thought that for years. I could never understand the thinking of some that just don't get the reasoning behind that idea, oh well...
I do not know what the Buick nav unit is like but the GM unit in My Vette is vastly superior to any Garmin unit I have owned. It's not as simple to operate as the Garmin is because the GM unit has many more features and options so there is more to learn up front.
I got the latest genuine GM map update discs for my Vette back in May and I paid $94 delivered.
When I get the latest updates I put the prior ones up for sale on eBay and it ends up costing me somewhere between $0 and $50 after updating to the newest version yearly update depending what I get for the old ones.
Hopefully the newer vehicle nav units are smarter, able to integrate to smartphones, and are touch screen.
The Nissan Nav units I have used a few years ago were awful - no touch screen, a tiny little mouse to try to input data, extremely hard to use. I never used it.
At first, I didn't think that I would. The first few routes didn't seem "good" to me and I couldn't add POIs. Then...
The HUGE display is tremendous 4" x 9.5" in full mode. I usually run in split screen mode so I can see distance to destination, time enroute, etc. That still gives me about a 6" wide map.
Either the routing has gotten better, or my first few attempts were anamolies; I have been satisfied with the routes chosen. The one difference that still exists is it does not do as well estimating times as my GO930 with IQ routing. It is not bad, the worst I've seen was 5 minutes off driving downtown in rush hour, whereas the worst I've seen with my GO930 is a 2 minute error.
Next, I have been pleasanty surprised with the traffic info. It took me awhile to learn how to use it, but now that I know, it is very good.
One of the best features for me so far is the interactive map. It is very easy to use it as a digital map, which is not easy to do with my GO930 and is a LOT bigger than my Android.
Finally, while I cannot customize the POIs, I am amazed at the POIs that are available.
Like others have written, my built-in came as a package with other features, so I really think of it more as a stereo, XM, etc. that has GPS capability.
After having this GM vehicle a week (it's my wife's car I guess she is letting me check out all the features), I would say the nav works pretty well. I sold it short based on the crude appearance of the arrow making it's way along its route, and not being used to entering the info, though it is like neverlost.
Forget about the traffic info, it blows the nuvi away--it seems real time and obviously easier to use than a droid which also seems real time. Garmin fails time and time again with traffic.
I guess the navi @ $2800 is a package, it's not really the navi by itself. It also includes the rear backup camera on the screen instead of the mirror, a 110V AC outlet in the rear console (go figure, what does that have to do with a navi package), etc., etc. I wish it had a different view, but I've gotten used to seeing the arrow moving along with north always pointing up.
The longer you're going to keep the vehicle (for us 10+), the more a factory navi can be justified, imho....
A solicitation arrived today. "Order your Honda navigation system map update for the new, low price of $149."
For USD 159.00, the Garmin nüvi® 40LM has lifetime updates included.
Just placed an order for a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.
The car was in pre-order, it had most of the options I wanted (Automatic gearbox, white color), and the GPS option was there. So I thought I'd let it installed.
I never thought for a second that I'd get rid of my 205T, all the more so since I bought LTM a couple years ago. It's such a sweet little helper !
I think I'll like the multiple bluetooth pairing (I have one personal cell, one for the office, and my beloved wife has one as well), and the huge screen.
Bonuses are the radio's integrated harddisk (30GB), MP3 compatibility, USB connector (I have no eye-fone, am a recent BB convert), and the DVD player when the car is parked. And the six Bose speakers should be good as well. I dunno if it'll read AVI, but I'll be sure to test it.
I should get it end of next month, and will give it a long test drive from Southern France to Belgium during XMas break. We'll see how the maps are, there was a recent rocade near Reims (the Champagne city) - so if it's there, then the maps are good.
And as far as the future maps updates will be concerned, I'll have a nice little chat with the dealership. I'm sure they'll see things the right way !
I'm back into Garmin now that the Droid X no longer works for navigation.
I have three navi units: Garmin-In Dash-OnStar. Each has its advantages and disadvantage. The OnStar will get me somewhere by just one button and asking for the nearest coffee shop or Marriott without a specific address. The in dash is great for specific addresses but without me having a route preference. It will take me turn by turn but as someone else pointed out it can be somewhat late in notifing of turns.But it does give a choice of routes-fastest, shortest, scenic. The Garmin is just a back up to the other two. The other's have the advantage of being theft proof.
Every time I read this thread I try to talk him into the new Honda with the instlled GPS!!!
It would be nice to just get in the car and it be there and not take it every time I get out.
We always buy new and keep the car for 10 years. My Honda Odyssey is a 2004. That makes it 2014 before we get another one. (But I will keep on telling him about all the great post on here and maybe he will give in...) He sayes we don't get our money out of buying new if we don't keep it 10 years.
Why doesn't your Droid X work for navigation? Mine does...
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