toll roads

 

For some reason my Nuvi260 doesn't want to treat the Florida Turnpike as a toll road, while in the Miami area it insisted on routing me on the Tpke

I have set shortest or faster doesn't make a difference, also set avoidances of Toll Rd. and Hwy and still wants me on the pike.

Has anyone else in Florida experienced similar problem?

The Nuvi is running Navigator NT 2008

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flaco wrote: For some reason

flaco wrote:

For some reason my Nuvi260 doesn't want to treat the Florida Turnpike as a toll road, while in the Miami area it insisted on routing me on the Tpke

I have set shortest or faster doesn't make a difference, also set avoidances of Toll Rd. and Hwy and still wants me on the pike.

Has anyone else in Florida experienced similar problem?

The Nuvi is running Navigator NT 2008

Try updating the maps, there have been quite a bit of changes/fixes in the past 3-4 years of map releases. My Nuvi running 2011.40 map version definitely knew Florida's Turnpike is a toll road in the central Florida area, as well as every other toll road around there as well. There is now a newer version available than that: 2012.10

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I've never heard of such a problem before but would try a hard reset and see if that helps any rolleyes

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Yep, try the maps

2008? Just a bit out of date, perhaps?

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map error?

As far as the Nav NT 2008 being too old I doubt it the Fla Turnpike was completed in 1974 and has always been a toll road.

The hard reset? what will that do? everything is working fine and a new battery was installed last week and had the problem before and after.

I tried simulating in that area and get the same results, it wants me to use the Turnpike even with ALL the Avoidances checked

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Just tried a simulation

I have my Nuvi 855 with 2012.10 maps .. tried simulating from Cooper City High School to Miami International Airport .. takes SR441 to I-95 to FL-112 .. no tolls at all.

Latest FW?

Anything new for your rig?

Have a set of coords I can test? I'm curious now!

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OK try this

jakas wrote:

I have my Nuvi 855 with 2012.10 maps .. tried simulating from Cooper City High School to Miami International Airport .. takes SR441 to I-95 to FL-112 .. no tolls at all.

Go fom the Cooper City High School to
10821 Caribbean Blvd Cutler Bay, FL 33189 (that is a La Quinta and is not in my favorites so I had to go by address)

Make sure Avoidances are set and either shortes or fastest it doesn't make a difference.

When is near the hotel it wants me to exit Dixie Hwy for the Turnpike when in reality the hotel is almost at the corner of Dixie Hwy and Caribbean Blvd.

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Apples to apples

I think we can all simulate it and get no toll roads. We need someone with 2008 maps to chime in and simulate it. And better yet, someone with a 260 and 2008 maps.

This last weekend I was on a long motorcycle ride with my zumo 660 and a friend had his 255. We both have 2012.10 maps that I loaded. We would both select the same POI from the same POI file I installed on both units. We both had the same avoidances and preference selected. His GPS would tell him to go left and mine would tell me to go right. They never selected the same route on any of the 3 days.

We can each simulate your route all day long with different results. We can guess about this problem all night long. Until someone comes along with another exact combination as yours we have to look in another direction for help.

Does your 260 avoid any toll roads at all?

Try simulating a route in a different part of the country along another toll road and see if the results are the same. (I-76 in PA. is a toll road)

I'm not exactly sure what this will tell us if it does continue to select toll roads but it could rule out the Floride Turnpike as the problem.

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humm

bear007 wrote:

Does your 260 avoid any toll roads at all?

You maybe onto something, I need to do some more simulations, it maybe the 260 is not avoiding tolls rather than the map being wrong on the Fl Tpke

Just did a simulation Harrisburg PA to my old home in Philly and it wants me on I-76

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Ok, Not the Florida Turnpike

So we now have to figure out why the 260 doesn't understand toll roads.

Have you tried unselecting toll roads in avoidances and let it do a few simulations and then reselect toll roads and try again?

Curious. Have you confirmed that any of the avoidance work? Highways, Ferries, etc.?

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2008 maps

bear007 wrote:

I think we can all simulate it and get no toll roads. We need someone with 2008 maps to chime in and simulate it. And better yet, someone with a 260 and 2008 maps.

We can each simulate your route all day long with different results. We can guess about this problem all night long. Until someone comes along with another exact combination as yours we have to look in another direction for help.

Does your 260 avoid any toll roads at all?

Try simulating a route in a different part of the country along another toll road and see if the results are the same. (I-76 in PA. is a toll road)

I'm not exactly sure what this will tell us if it does continue to select toll roads but it could rule out the Floride Turnpike as the problem.

I don't have a 260, but do have a copy of the 2008 maps. I did a simulation with my c340 and it avoided the Florida Turnpike as a toll road when I checked "Avoid Toll Roads". De-selecting it took the Turnpike.

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My 760 Avoids The Turnpike (For All Practical Purposes)

I simulated the route on my 760. Without the Toll avoidance it routes onto the Florida Turnpike for about 18 miles.

When I set it to avoid tolls, it does a manuever to circle around the mall to get the hotel on the right. (I think this is because the road is showing as being divided by a median of some kind).

It uses the frontage road for about 0.3 miles to navigate around the mall and end up driving the oposite way (NW) on Caribbean. It is calling this frontae road the turnpike, even though there's no toll involved. I think this link will get you to a screen grab:
http://s763.photobucket.com/albums/xx280/edwardw66/Nuvi/?act...

Here is the list of turns:
Left on Flamingo
Right on Sheridan
Keep left omto I-75 S to Miami
Keep left on I-75 S
Exit 1B right to SR-826 S to Miami
Keep left on Hwy 826 S
Keep right onto SR-826 S to Kendall
Keep left on Caribben Blve
Keep right to Florida's Tpke S
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Arrive at La Quinta Inn & Suites-Cutler on right

humm

edwardw66 wrote:

When I set it to avoid tolls, it does a manuever to circle around the mall to get the hotel on the right. (I think this is because the road is showing as being divided by a median of some kind).

It uses the frontage road for about 0.3 miles to navigate around the mall and end up driving the oposite way (NW) on Caribbean. It is calling this frontae road the turnpike, even though there's no toll involved. I think this link will get you to a screen grab:
http://s763.photobucket.com/albums/xx280/edwardw66/Nuvi/?act...

Here is the list of turns:
Left on Flamingo
Right on Sheridan
Keep left omto I-75 S to Miami
Keep left on I-75 S
Exit 1B right to SR-826 S to Miami
Keep left on Hwy 826 S
Keep right onto SR-826 S to Kendall
Keep left on Caribben Blve
Keep right to Florida's Tpke S
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Right on Caribean Blvd
Arrive at La Quinta Inn & Suites-Cutler on right

It is almost exactly what it wanted me to do while I was there, that explains what the problem is by calling the frontage Rd. behind the hotel the Tpke just because they run parallel to each other.

I still suspect my 260 ignoring the No Toll avoidance, I'll be running a couple more simulations.

Edward thanks for running the simulation.

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Not 2008 Maps

shrifty wrote:

I don't have a 260, but do have a copy of the 2008 maps. I did a simulation with my c340 and it avoided the Florida Turnpike as a toll road when I checked "Avoid Toll Roads". De-selecting it took the Turnpike.

Thanks Shifty, that rules out the 2008 maps.

So we are left with WHY the 260 ignores the TOLL avodance and WHAT to do about it.

@Flaco,
Does your 260 ignore other avoidances also?

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Weird issue

bear007 wrote:
shrifty wrote:

I don't have a 260, but do have a copy of the 2008 maps. I did a simulation with my c340 and it avoided the Florida Turnpike as a toll road when I checked "Avoid Toll Roads". De-selecting it took the Turnpike.

Thanks Shifty, that rules out the 2008 maps.

So we are left with WHY the 260 ignores the TOLL avodance and WHAT to do about it.

@Flaco,
Does your 260 ignore other avoidances also?

This is a weird thing to have happen, curious to know the end result. I have seen some random mistakes in the past from my unit, like mixing up North/South and West/East grin Route was accurate, just not voice.

On a side note, it is interesting to drive around with the 2008 map compared to the 2012.10 map, just to see how much things have changed in places!

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