Red-Light Camera Backlash, Are They Causing Accidents?

 

It's the "Gotcha!" flash that no driver wants to see after
running a red light. And it's quickly becoming the
target of critics who say the cameras may cause
drivers to take desperate measures to avoid being
caught on film.

Red-light cameras, designed to catch drivers who run
lights and endanger others, are now the subject of
significant debate because some believe they may
cause more harm than good.

"If people are stopping short because they are
thinking about the camera, that is making things
much more dangerous," said Patrick McElroy, a driver
in Los Angeles.

It is a controversy that is leading to a red-light
camera backlash. Houston has already voted them
out, and now the driving capital of the world, Los
Angeles, is on the verge of doing the same.

According to the National Conference of State
Legislatures, nine states have banned red-light
cameras. Several others have passed laws limiting the
use of camera enforcement.

There is evidence to support both sides of the debate.
A study this year by the Insurance Institute for
Highway Safety claims that in 14 of America's largest
cities the cameras have saved 159 lives during a
four-year period.

The study also said that if all 99 of the country's
largest cities had them installed, 815 lives could have
been saved.

"Cities that have had these programs are saving
people's lives," said Adrian Lund, president of the
institute.

On the other side of the debate are statistics that
show the cameras also cause accidents. A 2005
federal study demonstrated that while injuries from
right angle or T-bone crashes decreased by 16
percent at red-light camera intersections, injuries
from rear-end collisions increased by 24 percent.

The final argument in the debate in Los Angeles may
have already been decided by the courts. The courts

have ruled that violations caught on a photo are
unenforceable since there is no live witness to testify
against an alleged offender.

Nearly half the tickets issued in Los Angeles go
unpaid without consequence, leaving the city paying
$1.5 million a year for unpopular, if lifesaving
cameras.

Washington Towns Against Traffic

In Longview, Wash., Josh Sutinen, 17, is pushing an
initiative to ban the city's new red-light and speeding
cameras. Longview started a yearlong pilot program
in February and placed cameras at three intersections
and two school zones.

"I don't want any of that here," Sutinen said. "I want to
get them out before they are accepted in the public."

Sutinen said that there were better ways for Longview
to keep its roads safe, such as using radar to measure
and display speed -- "Little guilt trips work" -- and
even increasing how long a light stays yellow and red
before changing.

Elsewhere in Washington, a Bellingham group turned
in close to 7,000 signatures, Redmond activists were
still collecting signatures, and in Monroe officials
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Red-Light Camera Backlash, Are They Causing Accidents?

blocked a ballot initiative that would have allowed the
public to vote on the cameras.

All four towns are hoping to follow in the footsteps of
Mukilteo, Wash., where the cameras have been
removed.

Sutinen said that he needs 2,800 signatures for his
effort to make it onto the November ballot. Of the
3,600 he's collected, the city found that only 1,900
were valid. He said his group was doing well getting
citizens to sign.

"We've been slamming the pavement," Sutinen said.

Even if he reaches the needed number of signatures,
Sutinen faces a lawsuit from the city that asserts the
cameras initiative is not up for referendum. The court
is expected to rule on the matter July 11.
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I recently had a similar discussion (argument?) with my daughter. She feels if everyone drove "properly" there is no risk of rear enders. Of course, not everyone drives "properly". I suspect this argument will go on forever. The RLCs drive too much revenue.

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There would be more people who drove "properly", if we kept the majority of "drivers" from legally getting behind the wheel in the first place with tougher and stricter on road driving test. (More with less, what a concept. wink )

I'm not saying it would be the end all solution, but we have to stop simply handing a drivers license over to anyone and everyone just because they show up for the "test".

true, but

Mpegger wrote:

There would be more people who drove "properly", if we kept the majority of "drivers" from legally getting behind the wheel in the first place with tougher and stricter on road driving test. (More with less, what a concept. wink )

I'm not saying it would be the end all solution, but we have to stop simply handing a drivers license over to anyone and everyone just because they show up for the "test".

You're right, but there are plenty of people out there that drive without a license anyway.

And one of them

And one of them was the deadbeat that was holding my daughter captive.

twix wrote:
Mpegger wrote:

There would be more people who drove "properly", if we kept the majority of "drivers" from legally getting behind the wheel in the first place with tougher and stricter on road driving test. (More with less, what a concept. wink )

I'm not saying it would be the end all solution, but we have to stop simply handing a drivers license over to anyone and everyone just because they show up for the "test".

You're right, but there are plenty of people out there that drive without a license anyway.

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Backlash

I would have to agree with this article for the most part. Being in law enforcement in NYC, we have had an influx of these RLC's and they are definitely "moneymakers" for the cities. When you consider that NYC does not incur any expense at all in installing or maintaining these cameras, they have a win-win situation. The benefit that they gain in the process is the financial agreement that they made with the companiy that bought the "rights" to give fines to drivers that may go through the lights. When you do the math, if the fines are approximately $75 per summons, and NYC gets half of that, imagine the revenue gained for no real workat all. I have almost been rear ended numerous times because I was being cautious knowing that RLC locations are approaching. because of my caution and the tailgating and "road rage" like reckless driving of others, it has been a miracle that I have not had any accidents. Although these RLC's initially had the right idea in trying to penalize wrongdoers, for the most part, they do cause more accidents than not and are a safety issue now, especially since it has not deterred drivers from running lights. Anyway, that is my opion and observation, and that coming from someone that serves & protects in NYC.

Blacklash

Thank you for being honest on this subject especially coming from Law & Enforcement. I am now a retired New Yorker living in Florida & riding a lot more & see a lot of these RLC in many CR roads & knowing that, as I approach an intersection, I slow down just in case & I now stop on the yellow keeping my eyes focused on my mirrors as I apply my brakes, just in case I have to veer off, if at all possible on a split second. In riding in NYC the itersections are more closely spaced as opposed to what I am experiencing now in Fla. where the intersections are spaced farther apart & thus drivers reach high speeds for longer periods of time. I have had several near misses of being rear ended, a very scary feeling.

My hope is that as drivers become more aware, that there may be a camera, that they will slow down as they approach all intersections. Perhaps a dream, only time will tell. What is interesting there is no or very little mentions of these rear ended accidents or even better yet how to avoid them.

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