In the New York Times Article
Gadgets You Should Get Rid Of (or Not)
By SAM GROBART
Published: March 23, 2011
the author writes
"GPS UNIT Lose it. The least expensive GPS units cost around $80. But your smartphone can do the same thing, if not more, for half that price, or even free. Android smartphones already have Google’s turn-by-turn navigation app built in. And earlier this month, Google announced that the company would be including live and historical traffic data in route planning, so you hopefully get to where you are going faster.
If you have an iPhone, you have several options for GPS apps, including Navigon’s MobileNavigator (which starts at $30) and ALK’s CoPilot Live ($35). Renting a car? Decline the optional GPS; if you have a smartphone, you already have one with you. "
Of course, I don't agree -- but that's me.
What do you think?
I have primarily been using my Android based phone for navigation and I have pleased with the results overall. That said, the phone is dependent upon a data signal and if I were to lose the signal for a prolonged time in an urban area, it would be an issue. Utilization in a rural location is problematic from the start since data is not necessarily going to be available at all.
If the phone has a resident navigation system to include base maps - that would address my concerns for the most part. At that point I would consider the phone an acceptable replacement for all but the most remote navigation tasks.
... problem solved!
how you think....
My wife bought me an Iphone a week ago and I've been playing around on it. I really like it but do not have navigation service on it. If it handles navigation as well as it handles other functions then I would say the following.
1st like others have previously said the smart phones are jack of all trade masters of none. I've been a passenger in a car using a smart phone to navigate by. It did well but it did not have the features of some of the higher end gps systems. I happen to own 2 gps systems a Nuvi 255W and a Nuvi 755T. Both like the smart phone will get me where I need but the 755t has nmore usuable navigation features than the smart phone I saw and my 255W.
That said I prefer the extra features of the 755T. I realize that smart phoe navigation systems are good and getting better. My concern is that will they strive to offer better improvements that the gps makers like Garmin and Tom Tom offer. Garmin, Tom tom and Magellan continually offer improved unit features like Lane Assist, Junction View, and Traffic Trends ( no offense to non Garmin users but I'm more familar with Garmin units). Will Apple, and Android place as much emphasis on GPS features and develope newer ones. Before anyone starts taking shots at features we could live without I ask that they first try a GPS with more features and see how much some of them help. My fear is companies like Apple will put more research in phone features such a improved video downloading aand not care as much for navigation.
GPS systems and the way we use them will chnage and I'm all for that, just hope that navigation systems in whatever form they come be it smart phones or stand alones continue to improve and not stalemate in advances.
Not a chance!
Depending how your smart phone displays the map, or does many of it's functions (especially the GOOGLE apps).... you can REALLY rack up your data minutes.
Even if you have a unlimited data plan, if there is no phone signal, then with many GPS apps (GOOGLE MAPS for instance), you have no nice slick looking satellite pictures, so no navigation!
BLACKBERRY's MAP app uses internal maps, so all you need to use it is the GPS signal, no cell phone signal required.
I love Android, and I've used Google Maps or Sprint Navigator in a pinch, but when I'm planning a trip, I still grab my Garmin GPSr. I like to play with all the other things my phone can do (riding shotgun, not driving) while the GPSr just provides good directions.
sorry officer...... although it appeared i was texting or dialing, i was actually trying to access the gps feature on my phone.
i dont think that'll work.
let a phone be a phone a gps be a gps.
To many options not enough battery life.
A lot of good points made for this topic. But for now, I am keeping my GPS.
My Garminfone has lifetime map update. No need for standalone GPS.
I hear what you are saying. I use my gps with three different vehicles to provide GPS, bluetooth hands free(w/caller ID) and XM(music, weather & traffic). I can also plan routes with multiple stops to access in a few taps. The iPhone makes a good backup. And my GPS is water resistant for mounting on the motorcycle.
I will keep my GPS!
Connectivity is still an issue in many places or areas of the country. Also my mp3 (0ld one) still can play mp3 files without interrupting the directions. The poi's I've gotten at this web site make the GPS far more useful that similar use for the smart phone. Additional costs???
In all, I'll wait awhile before switching!
I too have the option of using my cell phone, but at a monthly fee.
I prefer my GPS with lifetime map updates.
IMHO Why pay $120 per year for a cell phone service, when you could buy an inexpensive new GPS each year with new maps or get one that has lifetime maps.
Its worth having for those times you travel outside the US and dont want to incur roaming charges. Plus, ther's many times when you need to use your phone while looking at a GPS.
I did get rid of a gadget.. the newspaper, haven't subscribed for three years, much rather get my info from the web, faster and more up to date. O yeah, I'll stick with my GPS, not paying twenty-five bucks a month for a data plan.
You gotta consider the monthly fee for data. I own a Samsung A777 which has GPS built-in, but I opted out for data and SMS.
The New York Times - Lose it! Who needs a newspaper these days? Haven't read one in last 3 years.
very well put! - not that they have anything good to say anyway
I will keep using my GPS, the Android is nice to have as a backup or if I am in someone else's car and don't have my GPS.
So I'll stick with the standalone GPS. I'd personally rather have a dedicated unit at this point.
I'm not expecting the sky to fall, but if we had a disaster, man-made or natural (9/11, earthquake, etc.), it is quite likely that portable communications/data networks will be down or overloaded. Unless there's been an attack on the GPS satellites or GPS bandwidth, GPS should still be good to go. Just food for thought.
I use both. Before I had a smart phone, I often wrote down the addresses before stepping out. Now I travel freely knowing that I can always find the physical address using my phone if I don't find a POI on my GPS quickly.
I think I will stick to the Garmin and let it do it's thing. The larger screen on the Garmin is much easier to see than on the iphone.
Imagine: you're driving in an unknown part of the Planet, therefore relying heavily on the P bit of GPS - you know, Positioning ? Then someone calls you. Can you ignore the call somehow, in order to concentrate on the screen indications ? Or will it consider you're cancelling the navigation ?
I for one have a phone for CALLS, and every now and again take and send pictures. The GPS only does the navigation, and does it quite well, with no Data plans needed on my cell. I must say I like it that way
Oh - and in Europe you might be incurring Roaming charges to booth, whereas my GPS has Lifetime-Updated European maps. Need I say more ?
EDIT: Section 1225-c does have an exemption allowing you to hold a cellular telephone to activate or deactivate a function, so it would be up to the driver to be able to convince the officer they were accessing only the GPS function and not using a "A service:
(a) That is interconnected with the public switched network, or interconnected with the public switched network through an interconnected service provider."
The 'gotcha' is in order to get the needed maps and route it would have to be downloaded from the interconnected provider.
So, what if your GPS has the traffic avoidance feature? Gets real-time data downloads. And, if it's also an XM receiver, like the Zumo?
Can't imagine there being any trouble if you have the cell phone mounted in a holder just like your GPS. In fact, in Maryland, the law is for hand-held... you're not in trouble if you're using it hands-free. Of course, this is all conjecture.
In the case of a GPS, you'll end up buying more accessories to try to make your smartphone work as good as a Garmin but in the end, you'll just do more spring cleaning.
For a Luddite dinosaur like myself, who only has a 'dumb' phone (not a Jitterbug, but I'm sure that's only a few years off ), the Garmin is the way to go.
Imagine: Oh - and in Europe you might be incurring Roaming charges to boot, whereas my GPS has Lifetime-Updated European maps. Need I say more ?
is another thing I had not thought of!
I prefer specialized gadgets, including a separate GPS device. And if that means a tangle of wires and doodads, so be it.
Good point. Many cell phones were useles on 9/11. I'll stick with Jill.
If GPS's are so bad then I won't need to worry about mine getting stolen anymore.
As a follow up to my earlier post on the differences between the iphone I just got and my Garmins. I found a free app called Siri and downloaded in on my Iphone. You can type or use voice commands to do a basic do a POI search. The results comes back and you then tap to choose the one you are interested in and then have the normal POI information such as phone # and address. You can select "map it" and then have written turn by turn directions or it will give you a map overlaid with the route with the start and end positions. You then will have functioning GPS as your postion changes along the route as you move. There is no voice directions, no next turn instructions, no traffic info, no speed info. I didn't try to deviate from the route and see if it redid the directions but I believe it would. I also noted that the screen would auto dim so that setting would need to be changed for navigation and the map itself was not "direction of travel" oriented. I was traveling south and the map did not follow me in terms of screen view as I traveled. The location service has to be on as well. These two settings reduce the battery life and could lead to having the phone not available when needed for a phone. Of course you could run off of the cars power system to prevent this.
Point is that this app while better than no GPS is not close to a Garmin or other standalone units. True this is a free app and as the writer Gary pointed out says there are services out there that would do a better job that the free app I used but why pay monthly fees for services that stand alone GPS provide for free once you buy the units? Garmin an others offer the lifetime maps and traffic services on select models so once you buy it you have a unit you can upgrade at no further cost. So the authors claim of reduced cost is not really accurate as he is ignoring the smart phones monthly fees.
I love my Iphone but for serious navigation I stand by my earlier posts of sticking to my Garmins.
will always keep my gps. if people are getting rid of thier gps, then why was my husband's stolen out of my car 3 months ago? =P
Garmin for ever----I would miss "recalculating"
Bunk. I'm stickin, with my GPS for over-the-road navigation.
Keeping mine till it doesn't work anymore. Then I will probably get another.
To paraphrase an old American maxim, 'You can have my GPS when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers'.
Possibly in the future. I wouldn't say never, but definitely not now..
I refused to use a smart phone because I hated the thought of sticking a humongous PDA sized device against my face to make a call. Then, BlackBerry came up with a much smaller model.
Now, all those smartphones with GPS apps are back to the huge PDA size, if not bigger, so they'd have a screen large enough to be usable as a GPS. A smartphone in the size I like has a screen way too small to be a decent navigation device.
When renting a car, I do decline the GPS. I have my Garmin.
Now, aren't they the same people who say the tablet PC with a virtual keyboard will kill off a laptop with a physical keyboard? Has anyone tried to touch-type on a virtual keyboard?
Has anyone tried to touch-type on a virtual keyboard?
I'm pretty dang good at 55 words a minute...
Just like I keep paper maps for the car and map and compass for the woods. Any electronic device is prone to failure. I much prefer my Garmin over any smartphone device for ease of use driving. Similar functions are available for the smartphone but it does not follow the function of a mobile GPS.
Some of us use dedicated gps units to help navigate on the water, in the air, while walking on trails and to find our way on unfamiliar city streets. Sometimes when you have a job to do it helps to have a tool made specifically for that job. Ask the mechanic who has tried to disassemble a motor with an adjustable wrench. I'll continue to value the functionality of my smart phone, including as a backup to my dedicated gps.
I've used TomTom offline maps on an iPhone, as well as Sygic Aura on my own android. Are they getting better? Sure enough!
Are they where my garmin 1490 is ? Nope, including ease of use, and size.
Will I give up either? Doubtful. If the market on general GPSr goes extinct here in some years, I'm sure I'd cobble together a small android tablet, set it up with offline maps and online traffic reception (when available) and run it sideways on my dash, as a generally dedicated unit that won't catch any incoming phone calls, etc.
Agree with many of the others : I'll keep my GPS applications handy on the phone, for when I don't have the luxury of using a vehicle GPSr, or a good hand-held GPSr when traveling by Leather Personnel Carrier.
love my gps won't travel without it
I'm using google maps for traffic info on my smartphone. My Garmin requires a subscription for the same feature.
Also, my Blackberry is no where near as fast or reliable as my Garmin when I'm navigating to an address. Never mind when you're in a no service area, where you really need the GPS.
I had a Blackberry. Got rid of it. No more smart phone for me. I now use my phone for talking and texting and that saves me and my wife a lot of money. We use our GPS for communiting. Much better than what I have seen on smart phones. I'm sticking to my GPS till the end.
Finally, someone that understands both worlds. I also use both depending where I am, If I'm in my car I use one of my dedicated GPSrs, if I'm walking the streets of NYC guess what? I use my Droid with co-pilot loaded which isn't dependent on cell service because co-pilot loads the maps in the phone.
I am keeping my Garmin! The eyes are not what they use to be.. Besides how can I talk and watch the screen at the same time.....! Like my dedicated GPS.
I have a GPS which fulfills that function to my satisfaction. I don't have, or want, a smart phone. So this is really a moot question.
I am keeping my Garmin! Besides how can I talk and watch the screen at the same time.....! Like my dedicated GPS.
You mean you actually "talk" to the GPS ? My wife would KILL me if I did that, and still ignored her while driving.
Of course those who know me (and my beloved wife) know there's a fat chance of my doing that....
Ah - the joy of Fridays !
To never mention the word "fat" in the same sentence as the word "Wife"!
I prefer the Nuvi routing. I read that Apple bought the Siri service mentioned earlier. It will be interesting to see what developments come up.
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