Can Anyone help explain this routing condition?

 

I have been very busy creating a POI file for the Baymont Inns & Suites across the country. I've used their web site to find the location of the motels and then used GoogleEarth to determine the GPS coordinates.

I just finished and decided to try it on my Garmin 255W before uploading as a POI file. Everything looks good until I chose one of the motels close to my house and said "GO" for my custom POI.

The Garmin routing takes me one exit past the motel on northbound I-75 and then doubles back on southbound I-75 to the exit where the motel is located. I then entered the actual address in the standard Garmin "Where to". This takes me directly to the motel. I've used the Extra_POI_Loader program to verify that both of the GPS coordinates are exactly the same.

When I tried selecting other Baymont motels from my POI file, the routing looks acceptable.

Does anyone know have any thoughts as to why the Garmin would route me past the exit and then back again in one selection and not in another? I just wonder if there might be a logical reason for it, or if I need to do something to my custom POI file?

Any help will be appreciated.

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Perhaps a one way street, no right hand turn, or no left hand turn?

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It's the coordinates

It's caused by the coordinates you used. Google earth is not the best tool to use in my experience. I use Itouchmap.com for single addresses and Extra POI Editor for bulk coding. EPE will display the precision and allow you to resolve all locations down to the address level.

To use EPE's bulk geocoding, you create a spreadsheet with all the information, load it into EPE and tell it the file does not have coordinates and then tell it to code. It will spit out a list telling you which lines did not resolve to address level so you can manually check and change only those.

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No, the streets are two way

No, the streets are two way streets. Like I said when I used the address as a Garmin POI, it went right to the motel. When I used my custom POI, it went past and then came back. In addition, when I entered the Cracker Barrel which is right next door from my custom POI file, it goes directly to the location without going past to the next exit.

It's the Coordinates

I hadn't ever used the Itouchmap.com web site, but I just tried that web site and I got exactly the same Lat/Lon coordinates for the Baymont motel in Flint, MI as I found from Google Earth. So that apparently isn't the cause of the problem either.

Strange, right ????????

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All things being equal, I'd have to concur with a_user. GE is wrong.

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I believe when you make a

I believe when you make a poi your garmin uses the coordinates to find the place. The address maybe shown but it's for display only? When you use an address such as manually entering it your garmin finds the place using the address you entered. I would agree sounds like coordinates might be off. Did you try using another website to get long./lat and see if they match?

Here's a link from another thread

http://stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php

Watch the lane.

When you just pick a spot on a road it might be on the lane going the opposite direction. When I first simulated a trip in a four lane hwy. on my unit sometimes it took me the wrong way and then doubled back to my destination. I was wondering why it did that and then a light went on. Then I zoomed in so that I could see the four lanes. I set the location on the lane I want to ravel on and it took me right to my destination.

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Sounds like

the difference between a direct address input and the Garmin Algorithm used for POI coordinates, especially since they both get you there to the exact same location. If the coordinates were not right the POI would over shoot or fall short of the location or not get you there at all.

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Coordinates.

I assume you are referring to the Baymont in Flint on Pier North. btw, is it Pier North Blvd, or Pier North Pkwy. Different maps use different terminology.

Both Google and EPE show the hotel to the east of street, in open space. The Hotel web site shows it to the west of the street. Interestingly, the web site uses Google maps. Switching to the satellite view on the hotel web site shows an indeterminate location, in that the location is open space. However, there are buildings, very close to the location, between it and the road. You just have to guess which building is the hotel.
Incidentally it seems as if Pier North may have been recently been extended. On the hotel web site, Google satellite shows an extended road, compared with map view.What does your garmin have? it may be that the garmin thinks the hotel is off-road. In that case you can get some funny routing results. I'm not sure what algorithm the garmin uses, but frequently it will put me on the nearest road; nearest in as how the crow flies!

I suggest you use EPE and adjust the location coordinates such that coincide with where the hotel is actually located. (Google satellite and the hotel web site perhaps)

Your problem typifies the difficulty of establishing accurate POIs.

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You explained that very well. A BZ to you.

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I think the problem is solved

Yes, you are correct. The Baymont in Flint on Pier North Blvd. But I think I uncovered the problem.

When I used GoogleEarth to determine the coordinates for the driveway to the Baymont, the satelite view show the street Pier North Blvd as it currently exist. It goes past the hotel and I found the correct GPS coordinate.

When I tried to research the problem on my GPS this morning, I zoomed in to the destination and found that my Garmin map version doesn't go that far, so the GPS was trying to route me through an open field. Since the field is on the southbound side of I-75, it was trying to minimize the distance I would have to four wheel to get to the motel. smile

I guess I will to consider spending some "big bucks" and buying the next map upgrade.

Here is a situation I

Here is a situation I reported to Navteq.My tax man changed to a new location I put the address in the gps.The location is on a road that has been there for years.It routed me down that road and about 1/8 mile for getting there it had me to make a right turn and make one big circle and come in on the same road from the opposite direction.Had hope new map update would get it right.No such luck.The only avoidance I have checked is traffic and set for fastest route.This morning I done a simulation.I played with the avoidance setting and selected highway as a avoidance.Low and behold it took me straight down the road without the right turn like it should have from the start.This makes no sense to me at all.No way do you want to set highway as a avoidance unless you want to take the long way around but in this case it was right.

It should be noted both on Naveteq and Mapquest the directions are correct.

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