Signiture Lines

I agree this is not a forum for political views. If this continues, I'm going to ask that the H-D Dealer POIs that I spend a lot of time maintaining be removed from this site. I will not continue to be made angry every time I view messages here and come across that stuff.

do you know how silly that looks...if everyone got into a fit of pique because of something "said" here there'd be about 2 POIs left...I hope you will reconsider.

Ted

No one can make you angry, you decide if you get angry. Then same thing applies to insults or offenses, you and only you decide if you are insulted or offended.

What you and others here are trying to do is stop speech you disagree with. I don't agree with most of what BobDee says but he has just as much right to express his views as you do to express yours.

As for re-manufactured or rehabbed units, you are depending on the company's marketing department to tell you the truth. Do they really rehab returned items or do they just repackage them? Cost wise, it is much more expensive to trouble shoot and repair an item then it is to manufacture it. Depend on the truthfulness of salesmen at your peril.

I will make it word for word, I was limited buy the number of characters. And will remove my personal commentary. however I have change it daily to reflect the numbers, and will continue to do so. I can't help it the numbers don't reflect your personal partisanship.

Could you please move the hijacked posts to their own thread so the thread can get back on topic. That way they can be debated if these guys like.

I also left you email. with what I feel would be a solution and work for everyone.

I thought that this forum was not for political statements, such as the one that appears at the bottom of every BobDee post. That poll and polling technique is from Rasmussen, a conservative polling company which does it differently than others. The same company also polled it this way:

"Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove".

The difference is the word "strongly" before the words "approve" and "disapprove" is BobDee's account. He conveniently left out the "strongly" in front of approve.

Also, in Rasmussen's words:

"It is important to remember that the Rasmussen Reports job approval ratings are based upon a sample of likely voters. Some other firms base their approval ratings on samples of all adults. President Obama's numbers are always several points higher in a poll of adults rather than likely voters. That's because some of the President's most enthusiastic supporters, such as young adults, are less likely to turn out to vote. It is also important to check the details of question wording when comparing approval ratings from different firms."

While Obama's numbers are nothing to crow about, spending political capital to accomplish significant things when many people disagree is what makes great presidencies. Jefferson, Lincoln, TR, FDR, and Truman were all very unpopular at times in their presidencies. And G.W. Bush, with no great accomplishments, was down to 25% approval at the end of his presidency, but history probably won't treat him as kindly.

I hope that we can keep politics off this forum, including statements slipped in at the bottom of posts.

Comments above were moved from the Refurbished Electronics thread.

Miss POI

Prior to this morning, signatures were shown in the same style as the main post. They are now shown in a less prominent style (that matches the date line near the top of each post). This will help better distinguish signatures from the thread content.

Miss POI

some of us two-year-olds are more mature than others or are we all pretty close to the same at different times?

This should help, that way the only way you really notice it is if you want to. I also edit MY signature to take my personal commentary out of it. This allowed me to take the poll word for word, which by the way is actual news to satisfy those that have to have their way or the highway.

Since this is actual polling data and is news it puts the pulse of the country in plain sight of everyone, as the numbers change everyday so will my signature, it will be posted as the numbers go in either direction..

Maryann, Thanks for moving this thread from where it originally was posted, the OP should have know better and started it on his own anyway.

Now that the data is daily numbers it should not offend anyone and is not in any way meant in that way and is not open to debate on my part, it's just data that I have not control over nor collection of.

Lets all calm down and remember that we are allowed access to all these great POIs and discussion topics. I for one have learned a lot of information about improving my gps from the many threads here.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Hey MP.

I agree that .sigs are a good way to allow users to express a little personality. Often they express a bit too much "personality", but the ones I'm seeing on here give me a bit more insight into the poster and allow me to understand his or her posts intents a bit better. I do like it that they now have a different format as the posts, allowing for a more obvious break from the user's posts and their .sig.

I don't see where there should be a problem with what someone puts under their signiture. As long as it isn't included in the actual post. To many people make to much out of what everyone says nowadays. Unless is is directed directly at someone it is very easy to ignore. (I have more of a problem with everyone asking the same question over and over again than what someone has under their signiture.)

Burying ones head in the sand will not make the problem go away. As long as not obscene or slanderous I see no problem trying to get people to wake up and smell the roses (more like manure). What is happening to our Country now would make Castro and Chavez proud. A sig line that only shows a poll number is not a Political Statement, it states a poll result. Why get defensive about a poll if O, P and R are doing such a great job with ruining, whoops,I mean running this Country?

No problem with accurately quoting well-respected, unbiased polling, like Gallup or Harris. When someone quotes a poll, they should also state the source so people can judge its trustworthiness.

In the case of Rasmussen, it does not poll young people over 18 (strong Obama supporters) because they are not as likely to vote as older voters. The next presidential election is 2012 and Rasmussen may want to consider that all young people will be older then.

Rasmussen uses "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" instead of the typical "approve" and "disapprove". There are many extreme liberals who do not strongly approve of Obama's policies because they believe they are too conservative. Those people will never vote for a conservative. They show up in polls which use "approve", but they do not show up in the "strongly approve" Rasmussen polling. Note that the Rasmussen result only adds up to 70%.

I'm just saying, if you are going to quote something, also state the source. Hopefully people will know that Rasmussen stuff comes from a source with a conservative bias.

Based on past experience, signatures should be limited.

dobs108

As long as the truth is being told... How can it hurt!
If you don't like political comments then don't read them or turn the channel. (website)

Will my line be next???

It is of a RELIGIOUS Nature... I LOVE JESUS and make no apologies for it.

See how quick this CENSORSHIP can get out of hand?

I am A Black man who did not vote for Obama, but as a Christian I RESPECT him as any other PRESIDENT or leader as instructed by my Lord JESUS CHRIST.

I Disagree!!! ... With his policy, party, politics, and principal by which he governs.

Miss POI, why are signatures now grayed out?

dobs108

Never mind, I saw your post about signature formatting changed...

It doesn't seem an appropriate forum. At least .sigs aren't yelling.

dminz said in the signature line, ie:

"Obama won and is keeping his campaign promises, a novel idea. Get over it."

Yea.. "Obama won and is keeping his campaign promises, a novel idea". It's to bad though that all of them are leading us to heck in a hand basket in a hurry .. and because of it our grandkids will never be able to "get over it"!

No truer words could be spoken.

Nuvi1300WTGPS

Here some Gallup info for you! I'll stick with mine it looks better for your guy than the Gallup poll.

Gallup :
The poll of 1,033 adults, taken by land line and cellphone Friday through Sunday, has a margin of error of +/–4 percentage points.

OBTW I love your Signature, Not as much as mine but love it..

Let me see what Harris says for ya.

Edit

Believe me you don't want that data either...
Stick with the data in my signature.

From what I can see the young adults you speak of are getting smart! And are being polled by Rasmussen and Gallup.

But I tired of this debate and Miss Poi didn't create the thread for debate, lets let the numbers play out, and wait for November.

I think you now qualify as a "Net Nanny"
There are people that post here that I do not read.

To diminish a sig line as you did is in my opinion nothing more than the "Why can't we all get along" attitude. If someone thinks I am a jerk then they should pass my posts bye, just as I pass posts of a few of the people I think are jerks

I'm not sure what you are talking about. But here are the Gallup facts and the website address for you to check them out:

Obama Job Approval

Approve 49%
Disapprove 46%

http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

Just making things up is a way to get a reputation as a nutcase, putting such a person in the same league as the former half-term, confused governor of Alaska.

http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b

Friday, April 09, 2010

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 29% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-three percent (43%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. (see trends).

Today’s Approval Index rating shows that perceptions of the President have changed little since passage of the health care legislation and a positive report on job creation. On the morning that the health care legislation passed, the President’s Approval Index rating was at -16. Last Friday, just before the announcement of the largest net job creation figures in three years, the President’s Approval Index rating was at -10. Consumer and investor confidence. bounced in the days following the jobs report but that bounce has disappeared.

http://tinyurl.com/5tnd2b

I'm done with you, you can't debate with out stooping to name calling... Once you start that childish stuff I see where your head is. Sorry you guy is losing votes. But just so you know I didn't vote for Mc cain either. My person lost. And yes Obama is the president of the united States, he and his party are just making to many mistakes, not paying attention to we the people. Like Off Shore drilling a broken Promise, forcing healthcare, No jobs created and unemployemnt numbers paded with people that have fallen off the rolls.

I stand corrected on the gallup poll data, I ws actually looking at 3 30 2010. So I am sorry for that mis-step on my part and appreciate you bringing calling it to my attention.

But if you can't debate with out name calling, then don't bother!

Well, that idea seemed to crash and burn...

Yes, that's the league of the former half-term, confused governor of Alaska. The league of quitting when the going gets tough and people question your veracity. I pointedly avoided name-calling, using "such people" instead of "you". You obviously self-identified with such people.

I don't know how you found the 3/30/10 Gallup poll easier than the 4/9/10 figure, which was the first one I came across. If you really did find that and if Obama's numbers improved that much in just 10 days, that pretty much dispenses with your idea that he is "losing votes". On that basis, he has had a really big surge.

Obama is not losing in the Gallup poll and he hasn't lost one yet in Congress. Wishing it was different doesn't make it so. He's doing what he was elected to do, even if he makes the people who didn't vote for him unhappy, as might be expected. And there are some liberals who are unhappy because of his compromise on offshore drilling, which he campaigned against.

In case you don't know, he hopes that drilling compromise (and the nuclear plants plan) will enable him to peel off some Republican votes for his climate-change legislation which he campaigned on and which is coming soon. He might be a little too optimistic that there are any Republicans who believe in science. Or, in Palin's case, who know what science is.

Here is a link to a discussion forum for political topics: http://www.politicsforum.org/