Red light cameras AND speed cameras too
Fri, 02/05/2010 - 2:21pm
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Dayton, Ohio is looking at the possibility of converting some of their red light cameras over to speed cameras also. These cameras will not only tag you if you run the red, but will also nab you if you are speeding through the intersection on a green light. This has to pass city council first, but I'll bet it will be enacted. See the link below to read the complete story. http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/red-light-ca...
Speeding-camera money-grab appears dead
See link:
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/cameras-232718-senate-comm...
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Speed cameras
See the following link concerning Dayton, Ohio's latest entry into the speed cam market.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/speed-camera...
(As soon as I can get locations on the speed cams I will forward them to Miss POI.)
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Looks like another larger city is taking the plunge. At least until local businesses complain about loss of business. At least my kids have completed their degrees at UD, and I don't need to go to Dayton as much as in the past.
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Here in Arizona we've had
Here in Arizona we've had the combo redlight/speed cameras at various intersections for quite some time. Not only can you get a redlight or speeding ticket at these intersections, they can review the photos to see if you have your seatbelt on or if any children are not in carseats. They can get you for more than a traffic ticket here.
OK.....so where the heck am I?
Too much!
Here in Arizona we've had the combo redlight/speed cameras at various intersections for quite some time. Not only can you get a redlight or speeding ticket at these intersections, they can review the photos to see if you have your seatbelt on or if any children are not in carseats. They can get you for more than a traffic ticket here.
OK, you've convinced me. I'm opposed to red light cameras! If I lived in arizona I'd work hard to get the officials who approved these ordinances removed from office.
Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav
Raise property and state taxes
The cameras are a cash grab, but the states/cities really do need money. We are in a major recession and times are tough.
What people should be doing is asking for an increase in property and state taxes to compensate for removing the cash generating cameras.
This way, the tax burden will fairly shared by everyone instead of targeting people who chose to ignore speed limits and/or drive through red lights..
Raise property and state taxes
The cameras are a cash grab, but the states/cities really do need money. We are in a major recession and times are tough.
What people should be doing is asking for an increase in property and state taxes to compensate for removing the cash generating cameras.
This way, the tax burden will fairly shared by everyone instead of targeting people who chose to ignore speed limits and/or drive through red lights..
You are joking
Why would I won;t my property tax to increase to cover the revenue received from speed and redlight runners. That's like raising my property tax and state tax to pay for people that drive a vehicle. Tax on Items get the people that use them not everyone. 
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Really? Kewl!!
Here in Arizona we've had the combo redlight/speed cameras at various intersections for quite some time. Not only can you get a redlight or speeding ticket at these intersections, they can review the photos to see if you have your seatbelt on or if any children are not in carseats. They can get you for more than a traffic ticket here.
OK, you've convinced me. I'm opposed to red light cameras! If I lived in arizona I'd work hard to get the officials who approved these ordinances removed from office.
If you're truly convinced .. are you now hearing 'slippery slope' a bit differently, and have some insight as to why someone who hasn't had a ticket in 20 years might be so vocally opposed to things seemingly 'on principal'?
It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.
Funny
The cameras are a cash grab, but the states/cities really do need money. We are in a major recession and times are tough.
What people should be doing is asking for an increase in property and state taxes to compensate for removing the cash generating cameras.
This way, the tax burden will fairly shared by everyone instead of targeting people who chose to ignore speed limits and/or drive through red lights..
Pretty funny.
It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.
speed cameras
i got mixed feelings on this. on one hand, it can make things safer for all drivers, on the other i feel like it's being used as a trap to bring in ca$h.
A Qualifier
Here in Arizona we've had the combo redlight/speed cameras at various intersections for quite some time. Not only can you get a redlight or speeding ticket at these intersections, they can review the photos to see if you have your seatbelt on or if any children are not in carseats. They can get you for more than a traffic ticket here.
OK, you've convinced me. I'm opposed to red light cameras! If I lived in arizona I'd work hard to get the officials who approved these ordinances removed from office.
If you're truly convinced .. are you now hearing 'slippery slope' a bit differently, and have some insight as to why someone who hasn't had a ticket in 20 years might be so vocally opposed to things seemingly 'on principal'?
Maybe I was too brief in my earlier statement. My opposition was in reference to their use in detection all all sorts of infractions, most much less dangerous than running red lights. It does become clearer to me that in some places they're not at all for safety, but strictly for revenue. I'm for their safety potential, but that is often made ineffective by their use to raise money.
Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav
another tax.
another tax.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/21626 - red light cameras do not work
Time to bring reason into the mix, and still collect $$$
I believe in traffic enforcement, if you run a traffic light you deserve a ticket, if you speed you deserve a ticket and of course if you make that right without a full stop, you deserve a ticket.
However, with the amount of money each camera generates each city could hire a lot of police officers and they can do the job of any style camera, plus they are equipped with reason, something enforcement equipment doesn't have . By doing so they could help the unemployment ranks and still make money and not split a dime with a third party company that owns the equipment such as Arizona based Redflex.
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I got it
Maybe I was too brief in my earlier statement. My opposition was in reference to their use in detection all all sorts of infractions, most much less dangerous than running red lights. It does become clearer to me that in some places they're not at all for safety, but strictly for revenue. I'm for their safety potential, but that is often made ineffective by their use to raise money.
That's how I understood your original post.
It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.
Just a side note: We have a
Just a side note: We have a "no driving while talking on a cell phone" law (don't know how they're really going to enforce that one and now "no texting" while driving. Another hard one to enforce. But.....if you get flashed and you're talking or texting with a cell phone.....don't have your seatbelt on.....your kid isn't in a carseat.....well that would be some expensive photography on the driver's part.
OK.....so where the heck am I?
no.... everything
Just a side note: We have a "no driving while talking on a cell phone" law (don't know how they're really going to enforce that one and now "no texting" while driving. Another hard one to enforce. But.....if you get flashed and you're talking or texting with a cell phone.....don't have your seatbelt on.....your kid isn't in a carseat.....well that would be some expensive photography on the driver's part.
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Ban them
Hopefully, someone will get a petition to place it on the ballot and ban the cameras in Dayton as they have in several Ohio cities. Expanding their use may be what pushes people into action. Let's hope so.
Supposedly it is going to be
Supposedly it is going to be on this years AZ ballot, in November I think.
OK.....so where the heck am I?
red light cameras
Look, folks, what it amounts to is cops can't be everywhere. If having a red light camera at an intersection stops a single driver that might KILL you or a family member who obeys the law I'm all for them. There are too many drivers out there who don't think laws apply to them. Passing red lights (and stop signs) is against the law for a very good reason ... people who blow ligthts can and have killed innocent people. Obey the law, stop at reds, and it's just not an issue to be concerned with.
Where's your logic?
Just how is a red light camera going to stop someone that runs a red light? Will it drop a concrete barrier?
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Ditto: Redlight cameras will
Ditto: Redlight cameras will not stop someone from running a redlight just as a speed camera will not keep someone from speeding. Another way to "generate revenue" with less manpower. Not generating enough money? Then when they review the photos if the person is not wearing a seatbelt=additional fine, if a child is not in a carseat=additional fine, if someone is talking or texting on a cellphone= additional fine. All without the use of a live officer.
Just heard that AZ is going to quit going after the "criminal" speeders because it costs "the state" too much to go after them. So, they're going to reduce the fine for going 20mph or more over the limit to match the normal speeding ticket fines. Now, what does that say about the "safety" issue they tout about the use of the cameras? It costs "them" too much to prosecute. Maybe they will get more "revenue" when those "criminal" speeders pay the fine instead of taking a chance of being prosecuted for "criminal" speeding.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28007
Open your eyes. The cameras are there for another "money grab".
OK.....so where the heck am I?
Lots of them
Here in Arizona we've had the combo redlight/speed cameras at various intersections for quite some time. Not only can you get a redlight or speeding ticket at these intersections, they can review the photos to see if you have your seatbelt on or if any children are not in carseats. They can get you for more than a traffic ticket here.
When I'm in the PHX area it seems like my 760 is pinging all the time warning me of red light and speeding cameras. I had never encountered a speed camera before this. It's also when I learned I needed to change the warning tone for speed cameras on the GPS. Scared the hell out of me the first time.
RE: side note Augmented enforcement
Just a side note: We have a "no driving while talking on a cell phone" law (don't know how they're really going to enforce that one and now "no texting" while driving. Another hard one to enforce. But.....if you get flashed and you're talking or texting with a cell phone.....don't have your seatbelt on.....your kid isn't in a carseat.....well that would be some expensive photography on the driver's part.
Where there's a will, there's a way...
Enforcement doesn't require a camera when undercover methods are used. Marked cars are probably only a fraction of the actual presence on the roadways.
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