Speed Traps

 

Watch out around Weed Ca.! They have a reduced speed limit, & sophisticated radar.
I think that's how the township exists- collecting fines.
Also for all you guys with radar detectors - Washington State Troopers are now armed with Instant On laser guns.
By the time yor detector goes off - too late.

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jerryatric wrote:

Watch out around Weed Ca.! They have a reduced speed limit, & sophisticated radar.
I think that's how the township exists- collecting fines.
Also for all you guys with radar detectors - Washington State Troopers are now armed with Instant On laser guns.
By the time yor detector goes off - too late.

Many mobile speed traps in MD lately.
watch out!

Great

Slow down to a reasonable speed and you won't have to worry. Most law enforcement have some leeway over the limit before issuing a ticket. Maybe getting a ticket will help slow those down that pay no attention to speed limits. I don't have a problem with tickets whether they are speed traps or not. If your speeding and get caught to bad....

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Best intentions not always enough.

There are a couple of small towns in Florida that I often pass through that in fact do finance their police departments from tourist speeding tickets. There are bill board sized warning signs 4 miles out of both towns in both directions. I am very aware that even one mph over the speed limit is likely to cost me. Yet as I drive through these towns I often find my speed creeping up - it's a 4 lane highway after all. Even the best of intentions can result in a fine. I look forward to the day when Garmin sees fit to introduce an alarm when I'm exceeding the speed limit shown on my nuvi 255W. It seems like it would be an easy enough think to do.

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Speed Traps

Comment from kyue2
I look forward to the day when Garmin sees fit to introduce an alarm when I'm exceeding the speed limit shown on my nuvi 255W. It seems like it would be an easy enough think to do.

The problem with some small towns is there will be a 55 or 60 mph then it drops to 40 then 25 in a short distance. I don't see how a gps could keep up with this kind of rapid changre. It would even be harder to make a poi that would alert you to the suddan changes in speed. question

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speed traps

we're toast man, one way or another, either today or tomorrow are guard will be down and they're gonna get us.

Speed limit alarm

johnm405 wrote:

Comment from kyue2
I look forward to the day when Garmin sees fit to introduce an alarm when I'm exceeding the speed limit shown on my nuvi 255W. It seems like it would be an easy enough think to do.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this ... particularly if you think they would add the feature to older units. This idea has been discussed on here quite often. Here is one thread that has some interesting discussion: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/23670

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Speed limit alarm

Alan were you commenting on what kyue2 said or what I posted under his comment? just wondering. confused

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kyue2

Thanks for pointing out the error ... I missed it since you didn't have the OP's comment in a quote box ... sorry.

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Should be fast enough

johnm405 wrote:

The problem with some small towns is there will be a 55 or 60 mph then it drops to 40 then 25 in a short distance. I don't see how a gps could keep up with this kind of rapid changre. It would even be harder to make a poi that would alert you to the suddan changes in speed. question

Where the road data is plugged into the map set, my 765T keeps up with it just fine. In another thread here I commented that when my wife noticed it, she was convinced that the signs must have some sort of transmitter on them because the nuvi changed exactly as we passed each speed limit sign!

The real issue is a)if the speed coding built-in is complete & up to date, b)does it change by a huge amount & quick enough for a human reaction before you get nailed (not usually so fast I'd hope, but I'm sure there are jurisdictions that might take advantage). surprised

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speedtrap.org

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Another One Who Thinks He Knows All The Answers..!!

farrissr wrote:

Slow down to a reasonable speed and you won't have to worry. Most law enforcement have some leeway over the limit before issuing a ticket. Maybe getting a ticket will help slow those down that pay no attention to speed limits. I don't have a problem with tickets whether they are speed traps or not. If your speeding and get caught to bad...

Well, here's another one who thinks they know all the answers.. NOT!

Did you ever think there just might be a reasonable answer/reason why someone is going over the speed limit, went through a red light/stop sign, or broke any of the other thousand traffic laws that are on the books..!!? Just because someone does something you don't like doesn't mean there wasn't a good reason for it!

Nuvi1300WTGPS

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Another One Who Thinks He Knows All The Answers..!!

Ok just for conversations sake, what reasons are there to go over the speed limit? Just for one. This is not to start an arguement. Just conversation. question

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Here is one

johnm405 wrote:

Ok just for conversations sake, what reasons are there to go over the speed limit? Just for one. This is not to start an arguement. Just conversation. question

How about you have your 5 year old daughter or son in the car, truck or whatever and she/he has swallowed something that made her/him go into convulsions. Would you wait 15-20 minutes for an ambulance or get the child to the nearest emergency room ?

This is also my standard answer for the self-righteous
A-holes that love to post that their is no reason ever to speed or go through a red light (of course after coming to a stop at the light)

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Towns in Florida

The two towns are Waldo & Starke
even at 2:0am you have to be careful.
They have been known to put on the school zone light to catch drivers speeding.
During school times you have to drive in a lower gear to keep the car below the limit.
I have had cars pass me and give me dirty looks only to see them pulled over down the road.

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I see It does help

Double Tap wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Ok just for conversations sake, what reasons are there to go over the speed limit? Just for one. This is not to start an arguement. Just conversation. question

How about you have your 5 year old daughter or son in the car, truck or whatever and she/he has swallowed something that made her/him go into convulsions. Would you wait 15-20 minutes for an ambulance or get the child to the nearest emergency room ?

This is also my standard answer for the self-righteous
A-holes that love to post that their is no reason ever to speed or go through a red light (of course after coming to a stop at the light)

I see it doesn't help to ask a question on some subject, as you will always get someone that has to come back with a smart ass comment.

"This is also my standard answer for the self-righteous
A-holes that love to post that their is no reason ever to speed or go through a red light (of course after coming to a stop at the light)"

I was just opening up the conversation for some different reasons from the group not a lecture on my thoughts or actions. sad

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Just looking for a fight......

Double Tap wrote:

[This is also my standard answer for the self-righteous A-holes that love to post that their is no reason ever to speed or go through a red light (of course after coming to a stop at the light)

Sounds to me like you are just looking for a fight.
Chill. Your examples are extreme......but you probably know that.

As for the subject at hand, I don't argee with the contention that if you are conscientious about obeying the law, you will never get a ticket either.

Some real "speed traps" are set up on purpose to be deceiving; they want your money and they don't care that THEY are on the edge of doing something illegal to get it.

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Avoid The Towns, If You Can

Timantide said...
The two towns are Waldo & Starke
even at 2:0am you have to be careful. They have been known to put on the school zone light to catch drivers speeding. During school times you have to drive in a lower gear to keep the car below the limit. I have had cars pass me and give me dirty looks only to see them pulled over down the road.

Best solution is to avoid the towns altogether, if you can. That was the solution given to motorists regarding the (now former) town of New Rome, OH.

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not so easy

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Best solution is to avoid the towns altogether, if you can. That was the solution given to motorists regarding the (now former) town of New Rome, OH.

Not always the easiest thing to do. If you look on a map they are square on one of the most direct routes from I-95 to west central FL.

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That's why I said, "if you

That's why I said, "if you can". smile

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I come down I95 to I295 then

I come down I95 to I295 then I10 and pick up I75 to central FL .A few miles longer but I miss those small towns and the constant change of speed limits dropping at the blink of the eye.

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I've been gone

I've been gone from FL for 20 years and I knew about Waldo and Starke long before I got there. They have been notorious for over 40 years. A lot of the towns along Rt. 1 used to be bad as well, but the Interstate put them pretty much out of business.

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Route 1 On a Motorcycle

I had the pleasure of running US Route 1 from Key West to Madewaska Maine two years ago and never saw an obvious speed trap anywhere in Florida (or elsewhere for that matter.)

Good luck or good karma?

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Of Course

ka1167 wrote:
Double Tap wrote:

[This is also my standard answer for the self-righteous A-holes that love to post that their is no reason ever to speed or go through a red light (of course after coming to a stop at the light)

Sounds to me like you are just looking for a fight.
Chill. Your examples are extreme......but you probably know that.

As for the subject at hand, I don't argee with the contention that if you are conscientious about obeying the law, you will never get a ticket either.

Some real "speed traps" are set up on purpose to be deceiving; they want your money and they don't care that THEY are on the edge of doing something illegal to get it.

Of course my answer is in the extreme. The world is not in black and white as a number of posters think it is. Extenuating circumstances exist in many situations. Those that say there is never any legitimate reason to speed or go through a red light live in a fantasy world and are probably very unhappy that outside world does not conform to their rules.

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"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam" “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

a good read

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Best solution is to avoid the towns altogether, if you can. That was the solution given to motorists regarding the (now former) town of New Rome, OH.

There are lots of stories about corruption in government, misuse of power, overzealous police and insane traffic laws, but most of them are just conjecture or stories from a disgruntled motorist. But the New Rome case is living proof (or maybe dead proof) that these things can and do happen. I had never heard about New Rome before, thanks for posting it.

Bad attitude

Double Tap wrote:

Those that say there is never any legitimate reason to speed or go through a red light live in a fantasy world and are probably very unhappy that outside world does not conform to their rules.

YOU need to clean up YOUR act.

People who say that KNOW perfectly well that there are rare exceptions that warrant extreme actions.

You getting beligerant about it accomplishes nothing useful.

In the VAST majority of cases, there IS no good reason. Simple fact.

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I guess I hit a nerve

ka1167 wrote:
Double Tap wrote:

Those that say there is never any legitimate reason to speed or go through a red light live in a fantasy world and are probably very unhappy that outside world does not conform to their rules.

YOU need to clean up YOUR act.

People who say that KNOW perfectly well that there are rare exceptions that warrant extreme actions.

You getting beligerant about it accomplishes nothing useful.

In the VAST majority of cases, there IS no good reason. Simple fact.

You have very thin skin. I am willing to bet you are a joy and pleasure be with in a stuck and crowded elevator.

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"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam" “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

Please keep the tone

Please keep the tone friendly....

Miss POI

Amazing.......

Double Tap wrote:

You have very thin skin. I am willing to bet you are a joy and pleasure be with in a stuck and crowded elevator.

Nope. That tactic isn't going to work. You can't put the blame off on ME. You are the one who stormed in like a bull in a china shop.

Since I can't be "friendly", I quit.

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It is unfortunate, however

ka1167 wrote:
Double Tap wrote:

You have very thin skin. I am willing to bet you are a joy and pleasure be with in a stuck and crowded elevator.

Nope. That tactic isn't going to work. You can't put the blame off on ME. You are the one who stormed in like a bull in a china shop.

Since I can't be "friendly", I quit.

Goodbye and I wish you all the best in all your endeavors.

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"Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam" “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

58

Highway 58 in Virginia, in Halifax county is bad. The rest of the highway is 60-75 mph speed limit, but in that county its 55, even though the road is wider, with a larger shoulder. So its natural to continue driving 60 or more if you don't pay attention. I didn't pay attention last Thanksgiving, and was caught by a state trooper.

Fri, 04/16/2010 -

The thing about VA. State Troopers is that they do not give courtesy to other law enforcement or Emergency Professionals that are off duty. In most municipalities or organizations, unless the person is a real A-Hole, one NEVER writes another Cop or Firefighter if it was an accident or oversight. Not saying that that is the way it should be, but it is a "professional courtesy" that is extended to those "On the Job".

so you are saying

fletchz wrote:

The thing about VA. State Troopers is that they do not give courtesy to other law enforcement or Emergency Professionals that are off duty.

So you are saying that just because you have a badge you don't have to obey the same laws everyone else does?

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"In order to be old and wise, one first must have been young and stupid."

It's called human nature

The baker always has fresh bread, the nurse doesn't have to wait in-line to get a blood test, the Costco employee doesn't have to pay for their yearly membership, an airline employee flys with a buddy pass that costs them the taxes only etc. It's what we call fringe benefits that go with the job.

Do politicians benefit because of their positions rolleyes

It happens EVERYWHERE like it or not and it's not about to change.

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The difference

canuk wrote:

The baker always has fresh bread, the nurse doesn't have to wait in-line to get a blood test, the Costco employee doesn't have to pay for their yearly membership, an airline employee flys with a buddy pass that costs them the taxes only etc. It's what we call fringe benefits that go with the job.

Do politicians benefit because of their positions rolleyes

It happens EVERYWHERE like it or not and it's not about to change.

The difference is the benefits given to those in your example, with the possible exception of the elected officials doesn't involve excusing the breaking of legal statutes.

A few years ago officers (and I have to use the term very loosely in this case) where part of an official contingent sent to honor fallen comrades at rhe National Law Enforcement Memorial. These officers after completing one official function went back to their hotels and changed clothes. They then proceeded to go out and get exceedingly inebriated. When some of these officers returned to their hotel, they proceeded to create a disturbance because the hotel refused to serve them any more liquor. They became abusive and the damage they then did in the hotel lobby area included urinating, in public, on the carpets and furniture. When the DC Police were called, they refused to arrest their "fellow officers" out of "professional courtesy."

The hotel made the entire contingent leave the property the next morning and then banned all members of that major city's police department from the entire chain (and we are talking a MAJOR UPSCALE chain. They could stay as individuals, but they could not stay at any property requesting rooms if they identified themselves as belonging to that department.

When their home city was notified of their behavior, the Commissioner recalled all members where they were made to repay the damages and then served out suspensions based on their particular offense. The DC police officers also had to answer to their superiors and to this day, the DC police department is under orders to not grant "professional courtesy" to any visiting officer not in the performance of their official duties. Officers coming to DC for Police Week and the memorial services at the Law Enforcement Memorial are informed they will be arrested and booked for offenses including public drunkenness and lewd or improper behavior - and they are.

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"In order to be old and wise, one first must have been young and stupid."

Bravo!

Well done, DC.

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Do you know the difference

between going 8 miles an hour over the speed limit and intentionally damaging property which is a criminal offense ? When doing a comparison do it accordingly.

Anyways with a comment "A few years ago officers(and I have to use the term very loosely in this case)" I clearly see your way of thinking and whatever I say certainly won't change your opinion regarding law enforcement officers.

That'll be my last post for this thread, I'm moving on.

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This turned into one of the

This turned into one of the meaner threads that I have seen on thid fine site,
Lets all get along now please!

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The incident

canuk wrote:

between going 8 miles an hour over the speed limit and intentionally damaging property which is a criminal offense ? When doing a comparison do it accordingly.

Anyways with a comment "A few years ago officers(and I have to use the term very loosely in this case)" I clearly see your way of thinking and whatever I say certainly won't change your opinion regarding law enforcement officers.

That'll be my last post for this thread, I'm moving on.

The incident I referenced was very carefully documented in the Washington Post. It occurred in either 2002 or 2003. The point being that there is "professional courtesy" and then there is "professional courtesy." What was wrong, in this instance which clearly crossed the line and your original complaint of a fellow officer refusing to grant "professional courtesy" for going a "few miles over the limit."

It is/was the expectation that just because a badge is carried a law enforcement officer should expect to be excused from enforcement action that would apply to a private citizen.

Your comment "I clearly see your way of thinking" shows your bias. I do work in public safety, not only on the local level, but on the national level as well. Do I ask for or expect "professional courtesy" from others? The answer is no. If I am guilty of an offense that would result in a private citizen being issued a ticket or summons, then I deserve one as well. I am well aware of the bias and expectations of a minority of the professionals that are sworn to uphold the laws and to serve and protect. They are some of the finest people and truly deserve the appellation of being being called your city's finest.

There is a standard you expect a private citizen to reach, should it be any different for anyone else?

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Did the incident include

Did the incident include sliding down bannisters naked or wearing just a gun belt? I vaguely recall the incident, and seem to remember it being from a large city in the northeast, beginning with "New" and ending with "City".

General Motors Speed Alert circa 1970

alandb wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Comment from kyue2
I look forward to the day when Garmin sees fit to introduce an alarm when I'm exceeding the speed limit shown on my nuvi 255W. It seems like it would be an easy enough think to do.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this ... particularly if you think they would add the feature to older units. This idea has been discussed on here quite often. Here is one thread that has some interesting discussion: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/23670

I'm not a fan of cruise control. What I would really like to see is what was on the 1970 Buick LeSabre (and other GM models, I'm sure): Speed Alert. It was a simple pointer on the speedometer that you turned until it pointed to the speed you wanted. When you hit that speed it would buzz. Very simple, very effective. With digital speedometers it might be more complicated, but it was great. Really miss it.

I remember those!

perpster wrote:

I'm not a fan of cruise control. What I would really like to see is what was on the 1970 Buick LeSabre (and other GM models, I'm sure): Speed Alert. It was a simple pointer on the speedometer that you turned until it pointed to the speed you wanted. When you hit that speed it would buzz. Very simple, very effective. With digital speedometers it might be more complicated, but it was great. Really miss it.

I drove from Rhode Island to Key West, Florida and back in 1974 mostly on I-95 with two college friends in a GM car equipped with one of those set to 4 mph above the marked speed limit. It was good for a lot of laughs and friendly competition as we took turns driving and tried to keep it from buzzing. Very low-tech by today's standards but very effective. None of us ever got pulled over on that speed-trap-happy route.

I do like cruise control, especially for reducing foot and leg fatigue in open highway driving, but like you, my wife doesn't like it when she's driving.

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Take a look at this...

an eye opener...

http://www.speedtrap.org/

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just looked at the reports in my area

jmkthird wrote:

an eye opener...

http://www.speedtrap.org/

There are several that haven't had a LEO in that reported position in over a year (and I drive by the reported point several times a day at all hours.) Others are reporting Park Police cars which lack the jurisdiction to stop motorists outside the park areas. In other words, about 70% of the reports are bogus, out of date or just plain bad.

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"In order to be old and wise, one first must have been young and stupid."

So - traffic enforcement is a "speed trap"

jmkthird wrote:

Take a look at this...

an eye opener...
http://www.speedtrap.org/

I encourage everyone to follow the link and then navigate to your town.

This was a real eye-opener for me - it gave me some insight as to what some people consider a "speed trap".

We already know that many people consider Automated Traffic Enforcement as a revenue generator. And many of these ATE opponents use the argument that enforcement should be done by a uniformed officer (so they can "face their accuser").

However, it seems that, when uniformed officers enforce speed limits, then that is termed a "speed trap" if it occurs at some location more than once.

If you follow the link to your home town, I encourage you to look at the reasons people advance. All too often, the claim is made that the speed limit is "ridiculously low". However, of the over 30 locations in my area, I did not find any where I thought that the speed limit was particularly low - let alone "ridiculously low".

Now, I have read of instances where a speed limit changes abruptly from, say, 55 MPH down to, say, 35 MPH (and there is no "Speed limit reduced ahead" signage) going into a small town and officers are stationed to catch those who did not slow down quickly enough. That to me would be a "speed trap".

But to claim that stopping violators of a speed limit that is reasonable (and where the speed limit has not changed for miles) constitutes a "speed trap" only confirms to me that the such reporters of "speed traps" think that speed limits should not apply to them.

Just thought...

this interesting....got it from a good friend...

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i believe it was

jmkthird wrote:

this interesting....got it from a good friend...

Retired Technician that had (or has) a sig line that warns about half of what you read on the Internet is false and to verify the other half. It's been my practice to always verify links before passing them on. I've told a lot of people sending me links that their info is a) out dated, b) just plain false, or c) a scam to harvest email addresses.

It's easy to set up a filter to monitor email traffic looking for subject lines in emails and capturing all the addresses in the message header. Now, the organization with the website is legitimate, but a lot of the emails you get telling you to forward this to everyone in your address book aren't.

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SPEED TRAP

okay i understand that if your 5 year old daughter is in need of attention you may go through a red light. but would you need to know or care where the speed traps are?

Yes to My Town

The traps are as they described them in my town and the town to the north. They were active spots for the police to sit, hide and watch when I moved here 15 years ago and are still in regular use.

The description for my town's location says there isn't enough time to slow from 50 to 35 before they catch you. I would have to disagree with that. There is plenty of distance and time to slow down.

I've never been caught by either one. I don't give them anything to catch.

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Mobile Photo Speed Traps IN MD

Frankoq2 wrote:
jerryatric wrote:

Watch out around Weed Ca.! They have a reduced speed limit, & sophisticated radar.
I think that's how the township exists- collecting fines.
Also for all you guys with radar detectors - Washington State Troopers are now armed with Instant On laser guns.
By the time yor detector goes off - too late.

Many mobile speed traps in MD lately.
watch out!

You are right Jerryatric. The primary area that you may see them is on I-95 between Baltimore and White Marsh. You'll also see it on I-295 or I-395. There are signs usually posted war stating that mobile speed photo enforcement is being used and the areas are usually under construction to some degree. The best thing to do would be to stay within 5 mph of the posted speed limit. Usually it is only for a couple of miles and you are able to see the vehicles used as the mobile photo speed traps. Usually they are white SUVs (Cherokee Jeeps) with the unit strapped onto the hood of the vehicles, usually parked on the shoulder of the highway.

USA Speed Traps

I've noticed that various Speet Trap POIs have started showing up. Would be great if someone would consolidate into on US speed trap POI the way Red Light Cameras have been done.

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