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Monkey-masked Ariz. speeder gets 37 photo tickets

 

That is really very interesting...
The news link is below

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090911/ap_on_re_us/us_masked_sp...

Another way to fight Speed Camera ticket.

Enough of this Monkey Business

Get rid of all the cameras, I say.

Tax cameras.

nextohel wrote:

Get rid of all the cameras, I say.

Indeed.

invite Mr. VonTesmar here

We should invite Mr. VonTesmar here to share his additional viewpoint. I believe there are many people willing to help fight his speed camera ticket as well.

I don't get it

Not sure what he's trying to prove. While I don't care for the camera's, I see no need to take it to that extreme.

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Haha....Interesting...But

Haha....Interesting...But you know he is going to get his by them sooner or later......

27%

I think it's funny that only about 27% of the ticket recipients have paid the fines.

they

will get him

speeding is not good

..."It's a peaceful act of resistance — that's what this country was founded on," VonTesmar, ...

Not sure if I understand what Mr. VonTesmar means, Is he is saying to resist by wearing Monkey mask to drive, or by exceeding 11 mph so the picture could be taken by speed camera.

Speeding is not safe regardless the presence of speed camera, in my opinion.

I think now there will be

I think now there will be more people wearing masks in Arizona to fight speeding tickets! razz

Is this car registered under

Is this car registered under the Monkeys name? smile bc in MD owner of the car get the ticket. No face needed

I Live in MD Too

I am surprised that more states don't the MD "owner" approach.

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Oh he will get his, then the monkeying around will begin!

Just a few things I look forward to seeing on the news while this idiot is in jail, I hate and detest abuse of children, but adults sometimes put themselves in situations, that make the rest of us say "Oh No He Didn't say that".
And the funny thing is this is where the monkey business really begins, the last thing you want to do is make law enforcement look like fools. The corrections officers will turn their backs to many things.

So Mr VonTesmar have fun! shock

Can you say:
a) Do I have to walk with my back to the wall all the time while I'm in here.
b) Can I take this mask off now please.
c} That don't look like a banana to me.
d) "Biotch get over here "How many times do I have to tell you guy's my name is VonTesmar not Biotch.

In Ohio you are shot from behind, and it doesn't matter who the driver is, the ticket goes to the Auto's owner, and it's up to him to give up the driver or just pay it. That's what they need to do in that state, and that will fix the Monkey Mans arse.

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I think the only thing this

I think the only thing this will accomplish is having lawmakers creates laws such that the owner of the car will be given a ticket no matter who's driving. I know this was already a consideration in some places, but this will only help to strengthen these arguments to go forward with these plans.

consideration??

what consideration? Not in Ohio, it's up to the Auto titled owner to pay the ticket or give up the driver.
As it should be, after all the car was used to break local laws created by elected legislators.

Your face doesn't mean anything in Ohio, just the make and model along with the Plate Number of the auto involved. then the ticket is issued, reviewed and mailed. After all you know who you lent your car to, if you weren't driving, so there really is absolutely no problem now is there.

So just slow down, come to complete stops before and at red and before that turn. Load your POI Factory Files and go on with life.

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Come on!!!

And to think this guy is on a plane giving customers direction.....

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My two cents... I don’t

My two cents...

I don’t intend to pass judgment on this man’s actions but I get the impression that there are folks around me who hold obedience to the law to be the highest value, über alles.

Might I remind you that as a country we have a firm tradition of civil disobedience? We can and should disagree with a particular law for a number of factors including the existence of a shaky foundation for its establishment or if enforcement of that law is deemed excessive.

This isn’t the same as saying we have free license to break all laws. There has to be a respect for the system. But I suggest that one way to engender that respect is for administrators to choose wisely in any government decision involving the public’s wallet with the following question in mind:

“Is the possibility of a potential blowback always worth the intermediate gain calculated for a local jurisdiction?”

Story...Funny as Sh*

This is so funny. It's all about the money and not about anyone's safety.

Protest or Habit?

Very funny, but VonTesmar didn't know when enough was enough. Wonder if he was the recipient of earlier tickets? Were the mask episodes just a form of protest, or a continuation of a bad speeding habit?

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Funny,to some, to others NOT!

LongAce wrote:

This is so funny. It's all about the money and not about anyone's safety.

Ha, You should get a star for today! Your very observant. Now do something about it, Help the right people get elected!

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The only ones complaining are the scofflaws who don't think laws

Seneca wrote:

My two cents...

{EDITED}
This isn’t the same as saying we have free license to break all laws. There has to be a respect for the system. But I suggest that one way to engender that respect is for administrators to choose wisely in any government decision involving the public’s wallet with the following question in mind:

“Is the possibility of a potential blowback always worth the intermediate gain calculated for a local jurisdiction?”

A drivers license a legal document giving a person official "permission" to drive a car in all states and jurisdictions with restrictions listed by the home state usually listed on the back of the license.

While the consequences for breaking the laws of the road vary from state to state, most of the main guidelines below apply, The Legislators have created laws that apply to everyone including you!

GENERAL
You are required to obey all traffic laws when driving a vehicle upon a street or highway.

TRAFFIC CONTROLS
You must operate your vehicle as indicated by traffic signs, signals and pavement markings.

CONTROL OF VEHICLES
It is unlawful to negligently fail to maintain reasonable and proper control of your vehicle.

POLICE OFFICERS
You must obey all lawful orders and directions of a police officer.

If you get your Picture snapped being unlawful, why cry about it? You did it to yourself, nobody but you!

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Nice Story

A very nice story to read.

If Arizona has the law written such that the driver of the vehicle rather than the owner is responsible, all the more power to him for taking advantage of it. It appears to be a useful way to deliver a message against the speed cameras, evidenced in part by the existence of the article.

Masked Man

He should of dressed up like a burglar and told the cops someone keeps steeling his car and returning it.

and a movie!!

Corbin Bernsen was on a few of the Phoenix radio & TV stations today talking about a new independent movie he's working on - "The Monkey-Masked Killer" - got the idea when he saw a picture of this guy in the paper.

He also said he did a search looking for monkey masks and there's only one supplier in the country - he got the same mask for his movie as this guy wears.

Hope they

will get him. Intentional & compulsive speeders are a danger.

Speeders/Radar

Bobdee, I like your response Sir. I don't know about other States, but here in Florida It is classed as a Privilege and not a Right to have a License, and all Law's should be obeyed, if you don't like it, get it changed by Law. P.S Yes I have had a few tickets in my 72 Years as a Mechanic.

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Hernando, Fl

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Limeyde:

Donna On Demand

It's funny that this guy was running speeding lights with the monkey mask because I just stumbled on a new movie called Donna On Demand that uses the same mask in the film. You guys should check it out, the movie is pretty funny and dark. Corbin Bernsen from Major League is in it so I know I enjoyed it. Check it out if you get a chance:

www.donnaondemand.com

No you're wrong

BobDee wrote:

--snip--
GENERAL
You are required to obey all traffic laws when driving a vehicle upon a street or highway.

TRAFFIC CONTROLS
You must operate your vehicle as indicated by traffic signs, signals and pavement markings.

CONTROL OF VEHICLES
It is unlawful to negligently fail to maintain reasonable and proper control of your vehicle.

POLICE OFFICERS
You must obey all lawful orders and directions of a police officer.
--snip--

I estimate that 80-90% of the drivers on I-5 are speeding several miles over the speed limit. It’s only the rare speeder who grossly exceeds the speed limit beyond the normal flow of traffic who gets pulled over. Yes, there have been rear end collisions in the far left lane due to inability to stop in time yet the majority of travelers are not driving below or at the speed limit.

You would have us believe that a world of strict laws watched over by the omnipresent eye of the surveillance camera would enhance our safety? You support an environment where we are constantly monitored by ever-present law enforcement cameras, that your need for safety or security calls for a clockwork society where everything is monitored for regularity becoming the norm?

There is something fascistic about the growth of surveillance cameras used to monitor the lawfulness of citizens and I take it as a personal affront when our freedom to travel is being abridged by restrictions including highway checkpoints and requirements for such things as a national ID card (REAL ID).

There is something wrong with the treatment of all citizens as suspects. Isn’t our criminal justice system set up so that the innocent are protected from false accusations and unjust punishments, the idea that some of the guilty may go free in order to make it so only the rare innocent subject is ensnared?

The more I find out, the more it seems to be about the power of corporate lobbyists who throw huge sums of money around to influence the local politics of cities and counties and to use strong arm tactics to push legislation on the state and federal level.

While the cameras might have

While the cameras might have some value they likely derive the vast majority of their revenue from people not from the area who drive through once and they are placed at intersections specifically to make money.
How many school zones and residential streets have them? Very few. Could anyone argue that school zones shouldn't be a high priority? Why then isn't there a camera in front of every school, every intersection, every cross walk, every stop sign in the country near a school? You know the answer....it's because they have to make money first and foremost.
There isn't a traffic cop in the USA who doesn't write enough tickets in a day to pay his/her salary so hiring police officers to do the same task would also make the streets safer. This is something cameras can't do.

And the response that you can change the law is only valid if you live within the city which put up the camera. If you live outside the city limits you have no say in the laws of that city.

people do borrow other people's cars

bloodbath wrote:

I think the only thing this will accomplish is having lawmakers creates laws such that the owner of the car will be given a ticket no matter who's driving. I know this was already a consideration in some places, but this will only help to strengthen these arguments to go forward with these plans.

People borrow other people's cars & sometimes break the law. How could the vehicle owner get convicted for a crime that they have proof of someone else commiting?

thanks

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Nice one!

I think what this guy did was brilliant!! As long as he is not excessively driving over the limit. I think it a good loop hole in the money grabbing speed cameras they use in the name of safety!

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I wouldn't

jairwin1 wrote:

People borrow other people's cars & sometimes break the law. How could the vehicle owner get convicted for a crime that they have proof of someone else commiting?

thanks

Your right people do let people borrow their cars all the time, and it's up to them if they want to take the hit for the ticket as the auto's owner.

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